ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Jill Sobule - Singer/songwriter
Jill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now.

Why you should listen

Jill Sobule first found her place in music history with the controversial 1995 hit "I Kissed a Girl." The song's silly sweetness masked its significance: It broke new ground as the first Top 40 hit to deal with overtly gay themes.

This approach -- packaging hard-hitting social commentary in a wrapper of whimsy -- has defined Sobule's career. Her endearing story-songs veer from fanciful storytelling to forceful satire and back again, covering a wide range of political and social issues from climate change to prostitution; anorexia to anti-semitism. Her winning combination of memorable characters, clever lyrics and catchy tunes has inspired comparisons that range from Burt Bacharach to Gertrude Stein. It also makes her performances and recordings a delight.

Sobule's candy-coated commentary can be found on her Huffington Post blog, as well as in her steady stream of stand-out albums, including Jill Sobule (1995), Happy Town (1997), Pink Pearl (2000) and Underdog Victorious (2004). Lately, Sobule has performed regularly with comedian Julia Sweeney (the two met at TED2006). They put on the "Jill and Julia Show," an utterly endearing evening of stories and songs. She's also recording an album with the string quartet Ethel (another TED2006 match).

More profile about the speaker
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Julia Sweeney - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith.

Why you should listen

Julia Sweeney is a writer, director, actress, comedian and monologist. She is known for being a cast member on Saturday Night Live from 1990 to 1995, where she created and popularized the androgynous character, Pat. She is also well known for her comedic and dramatic monologues. God Said Ha! is a monologue about serious illness, her brother's lymphoma and her own cancer, and her family's crazy reactions to this crisis as they soldiered their way through struggle, confusion and death. This play was performed all over the U.S. and on Broadway at the Lyceum Theater. It was made into a film produced by Quentin Tarantino, and the comedy album from the show was nominated for a Grammy.

Sweeney's second monologue, In the Family Way, played in theatrical runs in New York and Los Angeles. It was ultimately fashioned into a book, a memoir titled If It's Not One Thing, It's Your Mother. Sweeney's third monologue, Letting Go of God, chronicled her journey from Catholicism to atheism. It was made into a film that played on Showtime.

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Julia Sweeney | Speaker | TED.com
TED2007

Jill Sobule + Julia Sweeney: The Jill and Julia Show

O show da Jill and da Julia.

Filmed:
546,581 views

Duas das favoritas do TED, Jill Sobule e Julia Sweeney, juntam-se em uma dupla que mescla composição graciosa com um pouco de comentário social.
- Singer/songwriter
Jill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now. Full bio - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith. Full bio

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♫ Jill Sobule: At a conference in Monterey by the big, big jellyfish tank, ♫
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♫ Em uma conferência em Monterey ao lado do grande tanque de água-vivas, ♫
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♫ I first saw you and I got so shy. ♫
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♫ Eu te vi e fiquei tão tímida. ♫
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♫ You see, I was a little paranoid 'cause I might have been high. ♫
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♫ Sabe, eu estava um pouco paranóica porque talvez eu estava drogada. ♫
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♫ And I hadn't done that in ages and I won't do that again. ♫
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♫ E eu não tinha feito aquilo em anos e não vou fazer denovo. ♫
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♫ But that's another story. ♫
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♫ Mas isto é uma outra estória. ♫
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♫ Loved you forever and I've been a big fan, ♫
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♫ Sempre amei você e tenho sido uma grande fã, ♫
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♫ the one-woman shows, I even rented "Pat." ♫
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♫ os shows de uma mulher, até aluguei "Pat."♫
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♫ I got enough nerve to come up to you, ♫
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♫ Criei coragem para chegar até você, ♫
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♫ but little did I know one year later we'd be doing this show. ♫
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♫ mas eu mal sabia que um ano mais tarde estaríamos apresentando esse show. ♫
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♫ I sing. Julia Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Eu canto. Juila Sweeney: Eu conto estórias. Juntas: O show da Jill e da Julia. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Sometimes it works. Sweeney: Sometimes it doesn't. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Às vezes dá certo. Sweeney: Às vezes não. ♫
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♫ Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Juntas: O show da Jill and da Julia. ♫
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♫ Sweeney: At a conference in Monterey next to the big, big jellyfish tank, ♫
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♫Sweeney: Em uma conferência em Monterey, próximo ao grande tangue de água-vivas, ♫
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♫ I first saw you and I wasn't so shy. ♫
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♫ A vi primeiro e não estava tão tímida. ♫
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I made a beeline for you and told you what a huge fan I was
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♫ Fui direto ao ponto e te disse que eu era um grande fã. ♫
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ever since I was writing that pilot for Fox, and Wendy
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♫ Desde que eu estava escrevendo aquele piloto para a Fox, e a Wendy ♫
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and I wanted you to do the theme song.
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e eu queríamos que você gravasse a música de abertura.
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And then the pilot didn't go and I was so sad,
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E depois o piloto não foi ao ar e eu fiquei tão triste,
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but I kept remaining a fan of yours.
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mas continuei sendo sua fã.
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And then when I went through that big, horrible breakup with Carl
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E depois, quando eu passei por aquela grande, bem grande, separação com Carl
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and I couldn't get off the couch, I listened to your song,
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e eu não conseguia levantar do sofá, ouvi a sua música,
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♫ "Now That I Don't Have You," ♫ over and over and over and over again.
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♫ "Agora que não tenho você" várias, várias, várias vezes ♫
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And I can't believe you're here and that I'm meeting you here at TED.
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E não consigo acreditar que você está aqui e eu estou com você aqui no TED.
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And also, I can't believe that we're eating sushi
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E também, eu não acredito que estamos comendo sushi
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in front of the fish tank,
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em frente ao tanque de água-vivas,
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which, personally, I think is really inappropriate.
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que pessoalmente eu acho que é realmente inadequado.
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(Laughter)
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(Risos)
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(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
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And little did I know that one year later ... ♫ we'd be doing this show. ♫
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E muito poco eu sabia que um ano mais tarde... ♫ Estaríamos gravando este show. ♫
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♫ Sobule: I sing. Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Eu canto. Sweeney: Eu conto estórias. Juntas: O show da Jill e da Julia. ♫
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Sobule: Hey, they asked us back! Sweeney: Can you stand it?!
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Sobule: Ei, nos chamaram de volta! Sweeney: Você aguenta?
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♫ Together: The Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Juntas: O show da Jill e da Julia, da Jill e da Julia, da Jill e da Julia. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Why are all our heroes so imperfect? ♫
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♫ Sobule: Por que todos os nossos heróis são tão imperfeitos? ♫
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♫ Why do they always bring me down? ♫
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♫ Por que eles sempre me desapontam? ♫
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♫ Why are all our heroes so imperfect? ♫
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♫ Por que todos os heróis são tão imperfeitos? ♫
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♫ Statue in the park has lost his crown. ♫
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♫ A estátua no parque perdeu sua coroa. ♫
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♫ William Faulkner, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: Mmm.
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♫ William Faulkner, bêbado e em depressão. ♫
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♫ Dorothy Parker, mean, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: I know.
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♫ Dorothy Parker egoísta, bêbada e em depressão. ♫
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♫ And that guy, "Seven Years in Tibet," turned out to be a Nazi. ♫ Sweeney: Yeah.
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♫ E aquele cara, sete anos no Tibete, acabou sendo um nazista. ♫
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♫ Founding fathers all had slaves. ♫ Sweeney: I know.
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♫ Todos os pioneiros tinham escravos. ♫
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♫ The explorers slaughtered the braves. ♫ Sweeney: Horribly.
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♫ Os exploradores chacinaram os bravos. ♫ Sweeney: Horrível.
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♫ Sobule: The Old Testament God can be so petty. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Meu Deus, o Antigo Testamento pode ser tão bonito ♫
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Sweeney: Don't get me started on that. (Laughter)
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Sweeney: não me faça começar a falar sobre isso.
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♫ Sobule: Paul McCartney, jealous of John, even more so now that he's gone. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Paul McCartney ciumento do John, ainda mais agora que ele se foi. ♫
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♫ Dylan was so mean to Donovan in that movie. ♫
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♫ Dylan era tão mesquinho com o Donovan naquele filme. ♫
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♫ Pablo Picasso, cruel to his wives. ♫ Sweeney: Horrible.
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♫ Pablo Picasso, cruel com suas esposas. ♫ Sweeney: Horrible.
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♫ Sobule: My favorite poets took their own lives. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Meus poetas favoritos se suicidaram. ♫
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♫ Orson Welles peaked at twenty-five, below before our eyes. ♫
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♫ Orson Welles adoeceu aos 25 e observou com seus próprios olhos. ♫
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♫ And he sold bad wine. ♫
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♫ E ele vendia vinho ruim. ♫
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♫ Together: Why are all our heroes so imperfect? Yeah ♫
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♫ Juntos: Por que todos nossos heróis são imperfeitos, hein? ♫
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♫ Why do they always bring me down? ♫
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♫ Por que eles sempre me desapontam? ♫
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♫ Sobule: Heard Babe Ruth was full of malice. ♫ Sweeney: Oh.
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♫ Sobule: Ouvi que Babe Ruth era cheia de malícia. ♫
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♫ Lewis Carroll I'm sure did Alice. ♫ Sweeney: What?!
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♫ Tenho certeza que Lewis Carroll pegou a Alice. ♫
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♫ Plato in the cave with those very young boys. ♫ Sweeney: Ooh...
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♫ Platão na caverna com aqueles garotos bem jovens. ♫ Sweeney: Opa...
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♫ Sobule: Hillary supported the war. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Hillary apoiou a guerra. ♫
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♫ Sweeney: Even Thomas Friedman supported the war. ♫ (Laughter)
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♫ Sweeney: Até mesmo Thomas Friedman a apoiou. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Colin Powell turned out to be ... Together: ... such a pussy. ♫ (Laughter) (Applause)
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♫ Sobule: Colin Powell acabou se mostrando -- Juntos: -- tão bundão. ♫
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♫ Sobule: William Faulkner, drunk and depressed, ♫
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♫ Sobule: William Faulkner, bêbado e em depressão, ♫
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♫ Tennessee Williams, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: Yeah.
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♫ Tennessee Williams, bêbado e em depressão. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Take it, Julia. ♫
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Sobule: Tome, Julia.
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Sweeney: Okay. Oprah was never necessarily a big hero of mine.
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Sweeney: Ok. Oprah nunca foi minha heroína.
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I mean, I watch Oprah mostly when I'm home in Spokane
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Quero dizer, eu assisto Oprah mais quando estou em casa em Spokane
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visiting my mother. And to my mother,
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visitando minha mãe. E para a minha mãe,
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Oprah is a greater moral authority than the Pope,
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Oprah é uma autoridade moral maior que o Papa,
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which is actually saying something because she's a devout Catholic.
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o que somente quer dizer alguma coisa porque ela é uma católica devota.
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Anyway, I like Oprah -- I like her girlfriendy-ness,
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De qualquer forma, eu gosto da Oprah, gosto da amizade dela com as mulheres.
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I like her weight issues,
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Eu gostos dos problemas dela com peso.
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I like how she's transformed talk television,
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Gosto como ela transformou os programas de entrevista da televisão.
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I like how she's brought reading back to America --
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E como ela fez os americanos lerem mais.
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but there was something that happened the last two weeks
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Mas há algo que aconteceu nas últimas duas semanas
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that was ... I call it the Soon-Yi moment:
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que foi -- Chamo isso de momento Soon-Yi.
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it is the moment when I cannot continue supporting someone.
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É o momento em que eu não posso mais continuar apoiando ninguém.
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And that was that she did two entire shows
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E foi o fato de ela ter feito dois shows inteiros
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promoting that movie "The Secret."
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promovendo aquele filme "O Segredo."
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Do you guys know about that movie "The Secret"?
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Você conhecem este filme, "O Segredo"?
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It makes "What the Bleep Do We Know" seem like a doctoral dissertation
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Ele faz "Quem Somos Nós?" parecer uma tese de doutorado
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from Harvard on quantum mechanics -- that's how bad it is.
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de Harvard em mecânica quântica --- pra ver quão ruim ele é.
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It makes "The DaVinci Code" seem like "War and Peace."
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E faz o "Código de da Vinci" parecer Guerra e Paz.
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That movie is so horrible. It promotes such awful pseudoscience.
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Aquele filme é tão horrível. Ele promove tão terrível pseudo-ciência.
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And the basic idea is
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E a ideia básica é
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that there's this law of attraction, and
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que há essa "Lei da Atração", e
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your thoughts have this vibrating energy
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seus pensamentos têm esta energia vibrante
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that goes out into the universe
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e viajam pelo universo
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and then you attract good things to happen to you.
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e depois você atrai coisas boas.
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On a scientific basis, it's more than just "Power of Positive Thinking" --
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Cientificamente, isso é mais que apenas "Poder do Pensamento Positivo¨ --
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it has a horrible, horrible dark side. Like if you get ill,
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ela tem um lado negro horrível, horrível. Como se você ficasse doente
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it's because you've just been thinking negative thoughts.
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porque você tem tido pensamentos ruins.
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Yeah, stuff like that was in the movie and she's promoting it.
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Sim, coisas como estas estavam no filme. E ela o está promovendo.
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And all I'm saying is that I really wish that Murray Gell-Mann
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E tudo o que eu estou dizendo é que eu realmente queria que Murray Gell-Mann
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would go on Oprah
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fosse na Oprah
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and just explain to her that the law of attraction is, in fact, not a law.
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e simplesmente a explicasse que a "Lei da Atração" não é, de fato, uma lei.
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So that's what I have to say.
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Então isto é o que tenho a dizer.
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(Laughter)
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(Risos)
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(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
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♫ Sobule: I sing. Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Eu canto. Sweeney: Eu conto estórias. Juntas: O show da Jill e da Julia.
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♫ Sobule: Sometimes it works. Sweeney: Sometimes it doesn't. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Às vezes funciona. Sweeney: Às vezes não. ♫
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♫ Together: The Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Juntos: O show da Jill e da Julia, da Jill e da Julia, da Jill e da Julia. ♫
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(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
Translated by Rafael Eufrasio
Reviewed by Tulio Leao

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ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Jill Sobule - Singer/songwriter
Jill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now.

Why you should listen

Jill Sobule first found her place in music history with the controversial 1995 hit "I Kissed a Girl." The song's silly sweetness masked its significance: It broke new ground as the first Top 40 hit to deal with overtly gay themes.

This approach -- packaging hard-hitting social commentary in a wrapper of whimsy -- has defined Sobule's career. Her endearing story-songs veer from fanciful storytelling to forceful satire and back again, covering a wide range of political and social issues from climate change to prostitution; anorexia to anti-semitism. Her winning combination of memorable characters, clever lyrics and catchy tunes has inspired comparisons that range from Burt Bacharach to Gertrude Stein. It also makes her performances and recordings a delight.

Sobule's candy-coated commentary can be found on her Huffington Post blog, as well as in her steady stream of stand-out albums, including Jill Sobule (1995), Happy Town (1997), Pink Pearl (2000) and Underdog Victorious (2004). Lately, Sobule has performed regularly with comedian Julia Sweeney (the two met at TED2006). They put on the "Jill and Julia Show," an utterly endearing evening of stories and songs. She's also recording an album with the string quartet Ethel (another TED2006 match).

More profile about the speaker
Jill Sobule | Speaker | TED.com
Julia Sweeney - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith.

Why you should listen

Julia Sweeney is a writer, director, actress, comedian and monologist. She is known for being a cast member on Saturday Night Live from 1990 to 1995, where she created and popularized the androgynous character, Pat. She is also well known for her comedic and dramatic monologues. God Said Ha! is a monologue about serious illness, her brother's lymphoma and her own cancer, and her family's crazy reactions to this crisis as they soldiered their way through struggle, confusion and death. This play was performed all over the U.S. and on Broadway at the Lyceum Theater. It was made into a film produced by Quentin Tarantino, and the comedy album from the show was nominated for a Grammy.

Sweeney's second monologue, In the Family Way, played in theatrical runs in New York and Los Angeles. It was ultimately fashioned into a book, a memoir titled If It's Not One Thing, It's Your Mother. Sweeney's third monologue, Letting Go of God, chronicled her journey from Catholicism to atheism. It was made into a film that played on Showtime.

More profile about the speaker
Julia Sweeney | Speaker | TED.com