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Carlos Bautista: The awful logic of land mines -- and an app that helps people avoid them
卡洛斯·柏提斯塔: 地雷的可怕逻辑——以及一个协助人民避开地雷的应用程序
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哥伦比亚五十年的武装冲突，在乡间留下了地雷，让不甚踩到它们的人受到重伤或死亡。为了协助社区不受伤害，卡洛斯·柏提斯塔开发了一个应用程序来追踪地雷——并指引旅行者避开它们。来了解一下，当满是地雷的国家的武装冲突结束之后，这个可能救命的工具如何能协助推动和平。
Carlos Bautista - Entrepreneur, creative technologist
TED Resident Carlos Bautista wants to close the information and technology gap for people in developing countries. Full bio
TED Resident Carlos Bautista wants to close the information and technology gap for people in developing countries. Full bio
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00:13
When you walk around
the place where you live,
the place where you live,
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当你在所住的地方四处走动时，
大部分时候，
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most of the times,
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你会觉得很安全也很自在，对吗？
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you feel pretty safe
and comfortable, right?
and comfortable, right?
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Now imagine if there were land mines
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现在，想象一下，如果有地雷
就埋在这里，
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buried right here,
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散布在周围，
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scattered around,
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而你永远不会知道
会不会踩到其中一个。
会不会踩到其中一个。
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and you'd never know
when you might step on one.
when you might step on one.
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That's how it is for many
in my home country, Colombia.
in my home country, Colombia.
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在我的祖国，哥伦比亚，
很多人的生活就是如此。
很多人的生活就是如此。
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As a result of a 50-year
internal armed conflict,
internal armed conflict,
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经过了五十年的内部武装冲突，
不知道有多少地雷
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we have an undetermined
number of land mines
number of land mines
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埋在乡间各处，
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buried throughout the countryside,
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影响到超过三分之一的哥伦比亚人口。
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affecting more than one third
of the Colombian population.
of the Colombian population.
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These anti-personnel mines
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这些杀伤性地雷的设计，
是要让目标受重伤残废，而非死亡。
00:51
are designed to maim,
not to kill their targets.
not to kill their targets.
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The logic behind this, which is awful,
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这背后的逻辑十分可怕，
因为比起处理被杀害的士兵，
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is that more resources are taken up
caring for an injured soldier
caring for an injured soldier
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照顾伤残的士兵要花费更多的资源。
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than dealing with a person
who has been killed.
who has been killed.
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I met Adriana Rodriguez
about five years ago
about five years ago
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五年前，我认识了阿德瑞娜·罗德里奎兹，
当时我在为哥伦比亚政府工作，
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while I was working
for the Colombian government
for the Colombian government
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担任纪录片制作人。
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as a documentary filmmaker.
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01:16
During the conflict,
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在冲突期间，
她被迫离开了她的家…
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she was forced to leave her house ...
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with her kids in her arms.
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怀中抱着她的孩子。
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One day, one of her neighbors was killed
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有一天，她的一位邻居被杀了，
因为他踩到了一个地雷。
01:27
while he stepped on a land mine.
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01:32
He was actually inside
an abandoned house, not outside,
an abandoned house, not outside,
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他当时其实是在一间
废弃房子的内部，不是外面。
废弃房子的内部，不是外面。
让阿德瑞娜被迫离开的，
也是类似的房子。
也是类似的房子。
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a house exactly like the one
Adriana was forced to leave.
Adriana was forced to leave.
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01:40
Ever since, she has been living
with the fear that she, or her children,
with the fear that she, or her children,
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此后，她一直活在恐惧中，
担心她或她的孩子
担心她或她的孩子
可能会踩到地雷。
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might step on a land mine.
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You know, the Colombian conflict
has been running for so long
has been running for so long
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哥伦比亚冲突持续了很久，
我和我母亲都没有见过
我们的国家有和平的时候。
我们的国家有和平的时候。
01:51
that neither me nor my mom
have seen our country in peace,
have seen our country in peace,
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像我这样的人，
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and for someone like me,
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生活一直是和这些苦难没有关系的，
01:57
who has been living detached
from all this suffering,
from all this suffering,
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只有两个选项：
02:01
there was only two options:
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02:04
either I get used to it,
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我可以习惯它，
或是我可以尽全力来改变它。
02:06
or I can try to change it
with all my heart.
with all my heart.
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02:11
And I have to admit
that for almost 30 years,
that for almost 30 years,
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我得承认，在几乎三十年的时间里，
我都在不断去习惯它。
02:14
I was getting used to it, you know?
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02:18
But something changed for me
when I met my wife.
when I met my wife.
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但当我遇见我太太时，改变发生了。
02:22
She is a political scientist
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她是个政治科学家，
对于哥伦比亚武装冲突非常有热忱。
02:24
completely passionate
about the Colombian armed conflict.
about the Colombian armed conflict.
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She helped me to understand
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她协助我了解了
我们的国家受到地雷
及战争的影响有多深。
及战争的影响有多深。
02:30
how deeply our country has
been affected by land mines and by war.
been affected by land mines and by war.
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02:35
We decided to come here
to the United States
to the United States
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我们决定来到这里，美国，
来寻找新技能，
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in search of new skills
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让我们能用一种公正的方式
来对我们的社会做出贡献，
来对我们的社会做出贡献，
02:39
that would enable us to contribute
in a fair way to our society,
in a fair way to our society,
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甚至协助治愈它。
02:44
and maybe even help heal it.
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02:47
While in grad school,
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在研究生阶段，
我开始开发
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I started developing
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一种增强现实技术，
其应用范围非常广泛，
其应用范围非常广泛，
02:49
an augmented reality,
really broad application
really broad application
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能协助军人用更安全的方式排除地雷。
02:52
to help military personnel
to deactivate land mines more safely.
to deactivate land mines more safely.
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During that time, I also realized
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在那段时期，我也了解到
哥伦比亚并非世界上唯一
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that Colombia is not
the only country in the world
the only country in the world
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要担心地雷的国家。
03:02
that has to worry about land mines.
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03:06
In fact, more than 58 countries
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事实上，超过58个国家的土地
仍然满是各种爆破性装置。
03:09
are still contaminated
with any sort of explosive device.
with any sort of explosive device.
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Only in 2015, due to an escalation of war
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仅仅在2015年，因为在利比亚、
叙利亚、乌克兰、也门
等国家的战况加剧，
等国家的战况加剧，
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in countries like Libya,
Syria, Ukraine and Yemen,
Syria, Ukraine and Yemen,
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地雷（造成的受害者）数目加倍，
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the number of land mines almost doubled,
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从3695人增加到6461人。
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from 3,695 to 6,461 people.
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Imagine that.
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想看看那状况。
虽然有些国家在试图避免使用地雷，
03:32
While some countries
are trying to get rid of land mines,
are trying to get rid of land mines,
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一些其他国家却用得更凶。
03:35
some others are increasing their use.
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But what happens when a conflict
that involved land mines
that involved land mines
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但当用到地雷的冲突结束之后，
会发生什么事？
03:42
comes to an end?
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There are two consequences.
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有两个结果。
一方面，
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On the one hand,
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国内背井离乡的人口会开始返回家园，
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the internally displaced population
will start returning to their lands,
will start returning to their lands,
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另一方面，
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and on the other hand,
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隐藏的地雷会更多地被平民触发
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hidden land mines are going
to start exploding more often
to start exploding more often
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而爆炸。
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on the civilian side.
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04:01
That's the reason why I decided to join
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这就是为什么我决定加入
纽约大学的计算机科学系，
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the Computer Science Department at NYU,
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和克劳迪奥·席尔瓦
（Claudio Silva）教授合作，
（Claudio Silva）教授合作，
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along with Professor Claudio Silva
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一同开发一个叫做MineSafe
（直译：地雷安全）的应用程序。
（直译：地雷安全）的应用程序。
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to start to develop an app
called MineSafe.
called MineSafe.
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MineSafe uses information
from the community
from the community
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MineSafe用来自社区的信息，
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to suggest paths that have been declared
as the most transited
as the most transited
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来建议最常有人通过，
且没有发生过地雷意外的路径。
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without accident or incident
caused by a land mine.
caused by a land mine.
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04:27
These traffic patterns
can also be used to determine
can also be used to determine
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这些交通模式也能被用来判定
哪些区域最需要扫雷。
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the top priority zones to be de-mined.
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04:35
Almost 15 million people are living now
in the countryside of Colombia.
in the countryside of Colombia.
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目前，在哥伦比亚乡间
几乎有1500万居民。
几乎有1500万居民。
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Imagine, for a moment, if we can
crowdsource information from all of them
crowdsource information from all of them
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想像一下，如果我们能
从他们所有人身上收集信息，
从他们所有人身上收集信息，
来帮助像阿德瑞娜及
她的孩子那样的人，
她的孩子那样的人，
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to help people like Adriana
and her children
and her children
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to find safe and reliable paths.
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找到安全可靠的路径会怎样。
这些信息不只有这一种用途，
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This information
can not only be used for that.
can not only be used for that.
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This information can also help them
to become more productive.
to become more productive.
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也能协助他们提高生产力。
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Farmers will be able to find
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农夫将能够找到
哪些地方的爆破性装置已经被清除，
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which lands have been cleared
from explosive devices,
from explosive devices,
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这么一来，他们就能找到新的肥沃土地，
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and in that way, they will be able
to find new, fertile grounds
to find new, fertile grounds
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to start growing food again.
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再次开始种植作物。
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MineSafe has now a partnership
with the Colombian government
with the Colombian government
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MineSafe目前正在跟
哥伦比亚政府
哥伦比亚政府
合作进行初期计划，
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for the initial pilot,
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and we have now some connections
with Cambodia and Somalia as well.
with Cambodia and Somalia as well.
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现在，我们也和柬埔寨
及索玛利亚有了一些联系。
及索玛利亚有了一些联系。
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This project is being funded
by private money
by private money
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这个项目是由美国的
私人资金所资助的，
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here in the United States,
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但一切才刚刚开始。
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but we don't want to stop here.
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We want to go big,
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我们想做得更大，
把这个项目扩展到每一个
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and we want to scale the project
to every single place
to every single place
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受地雷威胁的地方。
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where land mines are still a threat.
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The Colombian armed conflict
is finally coming to an end,
is finally coming to an end,
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哥伦比亚武装冲突终于要结束了，
但多年战争造成的后果
仍然埋在我们的脚下。
仍然埋在我们的脚下。
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but the consequences of years of war
are still buried under our feet.
are still buried under our feet.
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We at MineSafe are working
to help both people and land
to help both people and land
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我们MineSafe背后的一群人
正在努力协助人民以及土地
正在努力协助人民以及土地
找到和平。
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to find peace.
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
（掌声）
05:57
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Carlos Bautista - Entrepreneur, creative technologistTED Resident Carlos Bautista wants to close the information and technology gap for people in developing countries.
Why you should listen
Carlos Bautista is working to develop MineSafe: a crowd-sourced information system for people in landmine-affected areas around the world. MineSafe aimsto analyze and deliver safe paths and reliable information for their daily commutes.
Bautista in an entrepreneur and creative technologist who has collaborated with other professionals to create a number of companies and research projects, ranging from a tailored shoe company to an augmented reality app that helps military personnel to deactivate landmines. He's worked with start-ups in New York City, helping them to develop and implement technological tools to enhance their educational services, using human-centered design methodologies.
As a professor, Bautista coached a team of young women during the summer of 2017, guiding them through the design thinking process at the Cornell and CUNY Women in Technology in NY (WiTNY) program. This experience allowed students to experiment with the use of empathy to develop successful technological products. Bautista has also taught classes at the Politécnico Grancolombiano in interactive design, 3D design and animation, web design, augmented reality and descriptive geometry. Bautista led the process of opening the Industrial Design program in Politécnico Grancolombiano, which opened in 2015.
Bautista is based in NYC working as a research associate at Tandon School of Engineering's computer science department, under the supervision of professor Claudio Silva, Interim Director of Center for Data Science. Together they are working to develop MineSafe to help people in rural areas of the world to move freely and safely without worrying about landmines.
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