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Juno Mac: The laws that sex workers really want
Toni Mac: Zakoni koje seksualne radnice zaista žele
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Svi imaju mišljenje o zakonima koje treba donijeti o seksualnom radu (treba li ih ozakoniti, zabraniti ili čak oporezivati)... ali što same radnice misle da bi bilo najbolje? Aktivistica Toni Mac objašnjava četiri modela zakona koji se koriste diljem svijeta i pokazuje nam model za koji ona vjeruje da bi najbolje osiguravao seksualne radnice i nudio veće samoodređenje. "Ako vam je stalo do ravnopravnosti spolova ili siromaštva ili migracija ili javnog zdravlja, tada vam je stalo do prava seksualnih radnica", kaže ona. "Napravite mjesta za nas u svojim pokretima." (Teme za odrasle)
Juno Mac - Sex worker and activist
Juno Mac campaigns for better working conditions for sex workers by fighting criminalization and supporting public education projects around issues relating to sex worker rights. Full bio
Juno Mac campaigns for better working conditions for sex workers by fighting criminalization and supporting public education projects around issues relating to sex worker rights. Full bio
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00:12
I want to talk about sex for money.
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Želim razgovarati o seksu za novac.
00:15
I'm not like most of the people
you'll have heard speaking
you'll have heard speaking
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Nisam kao većina ljudi
koju ste ikada čuli da govori
koju ste ikada čuli da govori
00:18
about prostitution before.
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o prostituciji.
00:19
I'm not a police officer
or a social worker.
or a social worker.
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Nisam policajka ili socijalna radnica.
00:23
I'm not an academic,
a journalist or a politician.
a journalist or a politician.
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Nisam znanstvenica,
novinarka ili političarka.
novinarka ili političarka.
00:26
And as you'll probably have
picked up from Maryam's blurb,
picked up from Maryam's blurb,
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I kao što ste vjerojatno
saznali od Maryam,
saznali od Maryam,
00:29
I'm not a nun, either.
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nisam ni časna sestra.
00:30
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
00:31
Most of those people would tell you
that selling sex is degrading;
that selling sex is degrading;
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Većina tih ljudi bi vam rekla
da je prodavanje seksa ponižavajuće,
da je prodavanje seksa ponižavajuće,
00:35
that no one would ever choose to do it;
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da taj posao nitko ne bi odabrao,
00:37
that it's dangerous;
women get abused and killed.
women get abused and killed.
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da je opasno, žene zlostavljaju i ubijaju.
00:41
In fact, most of those people would say,
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Zapravo, većina tih ljudi bi rekla,
00:42
"There should be a law against it!"
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"To bi trebalo zakonom zabraniti!"
00:44
Maybe that sounds reasonable to you.
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Možda vam to zvuči razborito.
00:47
It sounded reasonable to me
until the closing months of 2009,
until the closing months of 2009,
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Meni je zvučilo razborito
do posljednjih mjeseci 2009.,
do posljednjih mjeseci 2009.,
00:51
when I was working two dead-end,
minimum-wage jobs.
minimum-wage jobs.
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kad sam radila dva slabo plaćena
posla bez mogućnosti napredovanja.
posla bez mogućnosti napredovanja.
00:55
Every month my wages would just
replenish my overdraft.
replenish my overdraft.
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Svaki mjesec bi moje plaće
samo pokrile minus.
samo pokrile minus.
00:59
I was exhausted and my life
was going nowhere.
was going nowhere.
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Bila sam iscrpljena,
a moj život nije napredovao.
a moj život nije napredovao.
01:02
Like many others before me,
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Kao mnoge druge prije mene,
01:04
I decided sex for money
was a better option.
was a better option.
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odlučila sam da je seks za novac
bolja opcija.
bolja opcija.
01:07
Now don't get me wrong --
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Nemojte me krivo shvatiti --
01:08
I would have loved
to have won the lottery instead.
to have won the lottery instead.
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radije bih da sam dobila na lutriji.
01:10
But it wasn't going
to happen anytime soon,
to happen anytime soon,
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Ali to se ne bi uskoro dogodilo,
01:13
and my rent needed paying.
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a trebalo je platiti stanarinu.
01:14
So I signed up for my first
shift in a brothel.
shift in a brothel.
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Stoga sam se prijavila
za svoju prvu smjenu u bordelu.
za svoju prvu smjenu u bordelu.
01:18
In the years that have passed,
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U godinama koje su prošle,
01:20
I've had a lot of time to think.
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imala sam vremena za razmišljanje.
01:22
I've reconsidered the ideas
I once had about prostitution.
I once had about prostitution.
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Promislila sam o idejama
koje sam nekoć imala o prostituciji.
koje sam nekoć imala o prostituciji.
01:25
I've given a lot of thought to consent
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Pomno sam razmislila o pristanku
01:27
and the nature of work under capitalism.
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i prirodi rada u kapitalizmu.
01:30
I've thought about gender inequality
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Razmišljala sam o
neravnopravnost spolova
neravnopravnost spolova
01:32
and the sexual and reproductive
labor of women.
labor of women.
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i seksualnom i reproduktivnom radu žena.
01:35
I've experienced exploitation
and violence at work.
and violence at work.
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Iskusila sam iskorištavanje
i nasilje na poslu.
i nasilje na poslu.
01:39
I've thought about what's needed
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Razmišljala sam što je potrebno
01:40
to protect other sex workers
from these things.
from these things.
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da se seksualne radnice
zaštite od tih stvari.
zaštite od tih stvari.
01:42
Maybe you've thought about them, too.
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Možda ste i vi razmišljali o tome.
01:45
In this talk,
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U ovom govoru,
01:46
I'll take you through
the four main legal approaches
the four main legal approaches
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provest ću vas kroz
četiri glavna zakonska pristupa
četiri glavna zakonska pristupa
01:48
applied to sex work throughout the world,
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koja se primjenjuju na
seksualni rad u svijetu,
seksualni rad u svijetu,
01:50
and explain why they don't work;
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i objasniti zašto ne djeluju,
01:52
why prohibiting the sex industry
actually exacerbates every harm
actually exacerbates every harm
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zašto zabranjivanje seksualne industrije
zapravo pogoršava povrede
zapravo pogoršava povrede
01:55
that sex workers are vulnerable to.
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kojima su seksualne radnice podložne.
01:58
Then I'm going tell you about what we,
as sex workers, actually want.
as sex workers, actually want.
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Zatim ću vam reći što mi,
seksualne radnice, zaista želimo.
seksualne radnice, zaista želimo.
02:03
The first approach
is full criminalization.
is full criminalization.
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Prvi pristup je potpuna kriminalizacija.
02:06
Half the world,
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Pola svijeta,
02:08
including Russia, South Africa
and most of the US,
and most of the US,
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uključujući Rusiju, Južnu Afriku
i većinu SAD-a,
i većinu SAD-a,
02:10
regulates sex work by criminalizing
everyone involved.
everyone involved.
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regulira seksualni rad
kriminalizirajući sve uključene.
kriminalizirajući sve uključene.
02:13
So that's seller, buyer and third parties.
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To su prodavač, kupac i treće strane.
02:16
Lawmakers in these countries
apparently hope
apparently hope
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Zakonodavci ovih zemalja se valjda nadaju
02:18
that the fear of getting arrested
will deter people from selling sex.
will deter people from selling sex.
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da će strah od uhićenja
odvratiti ljude od prodavanja seksa.
odvratiti ljude od prodavanja seksa.
02:22
But if you're forced to choose
between obeying the law
between obeying the law
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Ali ako ste prisiljeni birati
između poštivanja zakona
između poštivanja zakona
02:25
and feeding yourself or your family,
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i prehranjivanja sebe ili obitelji,
02:27
you're going to do the work anyway,
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radit ćete to svakako,
02:29
and take the risk.
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i riskirati.
02:30
Criminalization is a trap.
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Kriminalizacija je zamka.
02:32
It's hard to get a conventional job
when you have a criminal record.
when you have a criminal record.
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Teško je dobiti uobičajeni posao
kad imate policijski dosje.
kad imate policijski dosje.
02:36
Potential employers won't hire you.
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Potencijalni poslodavci
vas neće zaposliti.
vas neće zaposliti.
02:38
Assuming you still need money,
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Ako još uvijek trebate novac,
02:40
you'll stay in the more flexible,
informal economy.
informal economy.
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ostat ćete u fleksibilnijoj,
neformalnijoj privredi.
neformalnijoj privredi.
02:43
The law forces you to keep selling sex,
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Zakon vas tjera da i dalje prodajete seks,
02:45
which is the exact opposite
of its intended effect.
of its intended effect.
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što je upravo suprotno
od njegovog željenog učinka
od njegovog željenog učinka
02:49
Being criminalized leaves you exposed
to mistreatment by the state itself.
to mistreatment by the state itself.
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Kad ste kriminalizirani,
i sama država vas može maltretirati.
i sama država vas može maltretirati.
02:53
In many places you may be coerced
into paying a bribe
into paying a bribe
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Na mnogim mjestima mogu vas prisiliti
da platite mito
da platite mito
02:56
or even into having sex
with a police officer
with a police officer
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ili imate seksualni odnos s policajcem
02:58
to avoid arrest.
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da izbjegnete uhićenje.
03:00
Police and prison guards
in Cambodia, for example,
in Cambodia, for example,
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Dokumentirano je da su
policajci i zatvorski čuvari u Kambodži
policajci i zatvorski čuvari u Kambodži
03:03
have been documented
subjecting sex workers
subjecting sex workers
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podvrgavali seksualne radnike
03:05
to what can only be described as torture:
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onome što se može opisati
samo kao mučenje:
samo kao mučenje:
03:07
threats at gunpoint,
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prijetnje vatrenim oružjem,
03:08
beatings, electric shocks, rape
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batine, elektrošokovi, silovanje
03:11
and denial of food.
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i uskraćivanje hrane.
03:13
Another worrying thing:
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Druga zabrinjavajuća stvar:
03:15
if you're selling sex in places
like Kenya, South Africa or New York,
like Kenya, South Africa or New York,
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ako prodajete seks u Keniji,
Južnoj Africi ili New Yorku,
Južnoj Africi ili New Yorku,
03:19
a police officer can arrest you
if you're caught carrying condoms,
if you're caught carrying condoms,
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policajac vas može uhititi
ako vas uhvati da nosite kondome,
ako vas uhvati da nosite kondome,
03:23
because condoms can legally be used
as evidence that you're selling sex.
as evidence that you're selling sex.
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jer se kondomi mogu iskoristiti
kao dokaz da prodajete seks.
kao dokaz da prodajete seks.
03:27
Obviously, this increases HIV risk.
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Očigledno, to povećava rizik od HIV-a.
03:29
Imagine knowing if you're busted
carrying condoms,
carrying condoms,
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Zamislite da znate,
ako vas uhvate s kondomima,
ako vas uhvate s kondomima,
03:32
it'll be used against you.
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da će ih iskoristiti protiv vas.
03:34
It's a pretty strong incentive
to leave them at home, right?
to leave them at home, right?
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To je prilično jak razlog
da ih ostavite kod kuće, zar ne?
da ih ostavite kod kuće, zar ne?
03:37
Sex workers working in these places
are forced to make a tough choice
are forced to make a tough choice
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Seksualne radnice na tim mjestima
prisiljene su na težak izbor
prisiljene su na težak izbor
03:40
between risking arrest
or having risky sex.
or having risky sex.
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između riskiranja uhićenja
ili rizičnog seksa.
ili rizičnog seksa.
03:44
What would you choose?
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Što biste vi izabrali?
03:45
Would you pack condoms to go to work?
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Biste li nosili kondome na posao?
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How about if you're worried
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Što ako ste zabrinuti
03:49
the police officer would rape you
when he got you in the van?
when he got you in the van?
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da će vas policajac silovati
kad uđete u kombi?
kad uđete u kombi?
03:53
The second approach to regulating
sex work seen in these countries
sex work seen in these countries
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Drugi pristup reguliranju seksualnog
rada koji vidimo u tim zemljama je
rada koji vidimo u tim zemljama je
03:56
is partial criminalization,
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djelomična kriminalizacija,
03:58
where the buying and selling
of sex are legal,
of sex are legal,
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pri kojoj je kupovanje i prodavanje
seksa legalno,
seksa legalno,
04:00
but surrounding activities,
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ali okolne aktivnosti,
04:02
like brothel-keeping or soliciting
on the street, are banned.
on the street, are banned.
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voditi bordel ili tražiti klijente
na ulici, su zabranjene.
na ulici, su zabranjene.
04:05
Laws like these --
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Ovakvi zakoni --
04:07
we have them in the UK and in France --
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imamo ih u UK i u Francuskoj --
04:08
essentially say to us sex workers,
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poručuju seksualnim radnicama,
04:10
"Hey, we don't mind you selling sex,
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"Hej, ne smeta nam što prodajete seks,
04:12
just make sure it's done
behind closed doors
behind closed doors
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ali se pobrinite da ste
iza zatvorenih vrata
iza zatvorenih vrata
04:14
and all alone."
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i potpuno same."
04:16
And brothel-keeping, by the way,
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A vođenje bordela, usput,
04:17
is defined as just two or more
sex workers working together.
sex workers working together.
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određeno je kao dvije ili više
seksualne radnice koje surađuju.
seksualne radnice koje surađuju.
04:20
Making that illegal means
that many of us work alone,
that many of us work alone,
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Ako je to ilegalno, znači
da mnoge od nas rade same,
da mnoge od nas rade same,
04:23
which obviously makes us
vulnerable to violent offenders.
vulnerable to violent offenders.
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što nas očigledno čini ranjivima
na nasilne prijestupnike.
na nasilne prijestupnike.
04:26
But we're also vulnerable
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Ali smo također ranjive
04:27
if we choose to break the law
by working together.
by working together.
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ako odlučimo prekršiti zakon
i raditi zajedno.
i raditi zajedno.
04:31
A couple of years ago,
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Prije nekoliko godina,
04:32
a friend of mine was nervous
after she was attacked at work,
after she was attacked at work,
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prijateljica je bila uzrujana
nakon što je napadnuta na poslu,
nakon što je napadnuta na poslu,
04:35
so I said that she could see her clients
from my place for a while.
from my place for a while.
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pa sam joj rekla da se neko vrijeme
može nalaziti s klijentima kod mene.
može nalaziti s klijentima kod mene.
04:39
During that time,
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U tom razdoblju,
04:40
we had another guy turn nasty.
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još je jedan čovjek postao neugodan.
04:42
I told the guy to leave
or I'd call the police.
or I'd call the police.
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Rekla sam mu da ode ili ću zvati policiju.
04:45
And he looked at the two of us and said,
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On nas je pogledao i rekao,
04:47
"You girls can't call the cops.
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"Ne možete vi zvati policiju.
04:49
You're working together,
this place is illegal."
this place is illegal."
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Radite zajedno, ovo mjesto je ilegalno."
04:52
He was right.
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Bio je u pravu.
04:53
He eventually left
without getting physically violent,
without getting physically violent,
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Na kraju je otišao,
a da nije postao fizički nasilan,
a da nije postao fizički nasilan,
04:56
but the knowledge
that we were breaking the law
that we were breaking the law
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ali znanje da mi kršimo zakon
04:58
empowered that man to threaten us.
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osnažilo ga je da nam prijeti.
05:00
He felt confident he'd get away with it.
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Bio je uvjeren da će se izvući s tim.
05:02
The prohibition of street prostitution
also causes more harm
also causes more harm
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Zabrana ulične prostitucije
također uzrokuje više štete
također uzrokuje više štete
05:05
than it prevents.
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nego što spriječi.
05:06
Firstly, to avoid getting arrested,
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Prvo, kako bi izbjegli uhićenje,
05:08
street workers take risks
to avoid detection,
to avoid detection,
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radnice na ulici riskiraju
da ne budu viđene,
da ne budu viđene,
05:11
and that means working alone
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a to znači da rade same
05:12
or in isolated locations like dark forests
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ili na osamljenim mjestima,
kao mračnim šumama
kao mračnim šumama
05:14
where they're vulnerable to attack.
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na kojima su izloženije napadima.
05:16
If you're caught selling sex outdoors,
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Ako vas uhvate da prodajete seks vani,
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you pay a fine.
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platite kaznu.
05:20
How do you pay that fine
without going back to the streets?
without going back to the streets?
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Kako ćete platiti tu kaznu,
a da se ne vratite na ulicu?
a da se ne vratite na ulicu?
05:23
It was the need for money
that saw you in the streets
that saw you in the streets
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Upravo vas je
potreba za novcem
potreba za novcem
05:25
in the first place.
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poslala na ulice.
05:26
And so the fines stack up,
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I tako se kazne nagomilaju,
05:28
and you're caught in a vicious cycle
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a vi ste zapeli u okrutan krug
05:30
of selling sex to pay the fines
you got for selling sex.
you got for selling sex.
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prodavanja seksa da platite kazne
koje ste dobili za prodavanje seksa.
koje ste dobili za prodavanje seksa.
05:34
Let me tell you about Mariana Popa
who worked in Redbridge, East London.
who worked in Redbridge, East London.
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Da vam ispričam o Mariani Popa,
koja je radila u Redbridgu, istočni London.
koja je radila u Redbridgu, istočni London.
05:37
The street workers on her patch
would normally wait for clients in groups
would normally wait for clients in groups
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Ulične radnice iz njezinog kvarta
su obično u grupama čekale klijente
su obično u grupama čekale klijente
05:41
for safety in numbers
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zbog sigurnosti u grupi
05:42
and to warn each other about how
to avoid dangerous guys.
to avoid dangerous guys.
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i kako bi upozorile jedna drugu
kako da izbjegnu opasne momke.
kako da izbjegnu opasne momke.
05:46
But during a police crackdown
on sex workers and their clients,
on sex workers and their clients,
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Ali tijekom strožih policijskih mjera
prema seksualnim radnicama i klijentima,
prema seksualnim radnicama i klijentima,
05:49
she was forced to work alone
to avoid being arrested.
to avoid being arrested.
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bila je prisiljena raditi sama
kako ne bi bila uhićena.
kako ne bi bila uhićena.
05:53
She was stabbed to death
in the early hours of October 29, 2013.
in the early hours of October 29, 2013.
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Nasmrt je izbodena u ranim jutarnjim
satima 29. listopada 2013. godine.
satima 29. listopada 2013. godine.
05:58
She had been working later than usual
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Radila je kasnije nego inače
05:59
to try to pay off a fine
she had received for soliciting.
she had received for soliciting.
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da plati kaznu koju je dobila
za traženje mušterija.
za traženje mušterija.
06:03
So if criminalizing
sex workers hurts them,
sex workers hurts them,
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Ako kriminaliziranjem
seksualnih radnica njima škodimo,
seksualnih radnica njima škodimo,
06:06
why not just criminalize
the people who buy sex?
the people who buy sex?
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zašto ne kriminaliziramo samo
ljude koji kupuju seks?
ljude koji kupuju seks?
06:09
This is the aim of the third approach
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To je cilj trećeg pristupa
06:11
I want to talk about --
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o kojem bih govorila --
06:12
the Swedish or Nordic
model of sex-work law.
model of sex-work law.
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Švedski ili Nordijski model
zakona o seksualnom radu.
zakona o seksualnom radu.
06:15
The idea behind this law
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Zamisao iza ovog zakona
06:16
is that selling sex
is intrinsically harmful
is intrinsically harmful
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jest da je prodavanje seksa
istinski štetno
istinski štetno
06:18
and so you're, in fact, helping
sex workers by removing the option.
sex workers by removing the option.
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i da seksualnim radnicima
pomažete ukidanjem te mogućnosti.
pomažete ukidanjem te mogućnosti.
06:22
Despite growing support
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Unatoč rastućoj podršci
06:24
for what's often described
as the "end demand" approach,
as the "end demand" approach,
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za ono što se često opisuje kao
pristup "kraj potražnji",
pristup "kraj potražnji",
06:26
there's no evidence that it works.
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nema dokaza da je učinkovit.
06:28
There's just as much prostitution
in Sweden as there was before.
in Sweden as there was before.
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U Švedskoj je prostitucija
jednako učestala kao i prije.
jednako učestala kao i prije.
06:31
Why might that be?
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Zašto je to tako?
06:34
It's because people selling sex
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Jer osobe koje prodaju seks
06:35
often don't have other options for income.
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često nemaju druge mogućnosti prihoda.
06:37
If you need that money,
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Ako trebate taj novac,
06:38
the only effect that a drop
in business is going have
in business is going have
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jedini učinak koji će imati
pad u poslovanju
pad u poslovanju
06:41
is to force you to lower your prices
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je što ćete morati sniziti cijene
06:43
or offer more risky sexual services.
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ili ponuditi riskantnije seksualne usluge.
06:45
If you need to find more clients,
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Ako vam treba više klijenata,
06:47
you might seek the help of a manager.
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možda ćete potražiti pomoć menadžera.
06:49
So you see, rather than putting a stop
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Stoga vidite, umjesto da prekinete
06:51
to what's often descried as pimping,
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ono što se inače zove svodništvo,
06:52
a law like this actually gives oxygen
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ovakav zakon potiče nastanak
06:54
to potentially abusive third parties.
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potencijalno nasilne treće strane.
06:57
To keep safe in my work,
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Kako bih ostala sigurna u svom poslu,
06:59
I try not to take bookings from someone
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nastojim ne uzimati ponude od nekoga
07:01
who calls me from a withheld number.
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tko me zove sa skrivenog broja.
07:03
If it's a home or a hotel visit,
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Ako je posjet u kući ili u hotelu,
07:05
I try to get a full name and details.
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nastojim saznati puno ime i detalje.
07:07
If I worked under the Swedish model,
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Kad bih radila po Švedskom modelu,
07:09
a client would be too scared
to give me that information.
to give me that information.
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klijent bi se previše bojao
dati mi te podatke.
dati mi te podatke.
07:12
I might have no other choice
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Možda ne bih imala izbora
07:14
but to accept a booking
from a man who is untraceable
from a man who is untraceable
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nego prihvatiti ponudu čovjeka
kojem se ne može ući u trag
kojem se ne može ući u trag
07:17
if he later turns out to be violent.
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ako se ispostavi da je nasilan.
07:19
If you need their money,
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Ako trebate njihov novac,
07:21
you need to protect
your clients from the police.
your clients from the police.
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trebate zaštititi klijente od policije.
07:23
If you work outdoors,
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Ako radite vani,
07:24
that means working alone
or in isolated locations,
or in isolated locations,
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to znači da radite sami ili
na osamljenim mjestima,
na osamljenim mjestima,
07:27
just as if you were criminalized yourself.
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baš kao da se i kriminalizirate.
07:29
It might mean getting into cars quicker,
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Možda ćete brže ući u auto,
07:32
less negotiating time
means snap decisions.
means snap decisions.
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kraće pregovaranje znači brze odluke.
07:35
Is this guy dangerous or just nervous?
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Je li on opasan ili samo nervozan?
07:38
Can you afford to take the risk?
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Možete li preuzeti taj rizik?
07:40
Can you afford not to?
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Možete li ga odbiti?
07:43
Something I'm often hearing is,
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Često čujem,
07:45
"Prostitution would be fine
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"Prostitucija bi bila u redu
07:46
if we made it legal and regulated it."
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da je legaliziramo i reguliramo."
07:48
We call that approach legalization,
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Taj pristup zovemo legalizacija,
07:50
and it's used by countries
like the Netherlands, Germany
like the Netherlands, Germany
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i koriste ga zemlje kao
Nizozemska, Njemačka
Nizozemska, Njemačka
07:53
and Nevada in the US.
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i Nevada u SAD-u.
07:55
But it's not a great
model for human rights.
model for human rights.
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Ali to nije dobar model za ljudska prava.
07:57
And in state-controlled prostitution,
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A u prostituciji pod kontrolom države,
07:59
commercial sex can only happen
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komercijalni seks je moguć samo
08:01
in certain legally-designated
areas or venues,
areas or venues,
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u zakonski uređenim
područjima ili mjestima,
područjima ili mjestima,
08:03
and sex workers are made to comply
with special restrictions,
with special restrictions,
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a seksualne radnice se pridržavaju
posebnim ograničenjima,
posebnim ograničenjima,
08:06
like registration
and forced health checks.
and forced health checks.
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kao što su registracija
i prisilni zdravstveni pregledi.
i prisilni zdravstveni pregledi.
08:10
Regulation sounds great on paper,
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Regulacija zvuči odlično na papiru,
08:12
but politicians deliberately make
regulation around the sex industry
regulation around the sex industry
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ali političari namjerno donose
odredbe oko seksualne industrije
odredbe oko seksualne industrije
08:15
expensive and difficult to comply with.
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koje je skupo i teško poštivati.
08:18
It creates a two-tiered system:
legal and illegal work.
legal and illegal work.
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To stvara dvoredni sustav:
legalni i ilegalni rad.
legalni i ilegalni rad.
08:22
We sometimes call it
"backdoor criminalization."
"backdoor criminalization."
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Katkad to zovemo
"potajna kriminalizacija".
"potajna kriminalizacija".
08:25
Rich, well-connected brothel owners
can comply with the regulations,
can comply with the regulations,
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Bogati, dobro povezani vlasnici bordela
mogu poštivati odredbe,
mogu poštivati odredbe,
08:29
but more marginalized people
find those hoops
find those hoops
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ali marginalizirani ljudi
08:31
impossible to jump through.
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teško nadilaze te prepreke.
08:33
And even if it's possible in principle,
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A čak i ako je to u načelu moguće,
08:35
getting a license or proper venue
takes time and costs money.
takes time and costs money.
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dobivanje dozvole ili dobrog mjesta
zahtijeva vrijeme i novac.
zahtijeva vrijeme i novac.
08:38
It's not going to be an option
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Neće biti opcija
08:39
for someone who's desperate
and needs money tonight.
and needs money tonight.
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nekome tko je očajan
i treba novac večeras.
i treba novac večeras.
08:42
They might be a refugee
or fleeing domestic abuse.
or fleeing domestic abuse.
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Možda su izbjeglice
ili bježe od obiteljskog nasilja.
ili bježe od obiteljskog nasilja.
08:45
In this two-tiered system,
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U ovom dvorednom sustavu,
08:46
the most vulnerable people
are forced to work illegally,
are forced to work illegally,
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najranjiviji ljudi su prisiljeni
raditi ilegalno,
raditi ilegalno,
08:50
so they're still exposed to all
the dangers of criminalization
the dangers of criminalization
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zato su i dalje izloženi
svim opasnostima kriminalizacije
svim opasnostima kriminalizacije
08:53
I mentioned earlier.
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koje sam ranije spomenula.
08:54
So.
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Dakle.
08:55
It's looking like all attempts to control
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Čini se da svi pokušaji kontroliranja
08:57
or prevent sex work from happening
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ili sprječavanja seksualnog rada
08:59
makes things more dangerous
for people selling sex.
for people selling sex.
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čine okolnosti opasnije
za osobe koje prodaju seks.
za osobe koje prodaju seks.
09:02
Fear of law enforcement makes them
work alone in isolated locations,
work alone in isolated locations,
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Strah od provođenja zakona tjera ih
da rade sami na osamljenim mjestima,
da rade sami na osamljenim mjestima,
09:06
and allows clients and even cops
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i dozvoljava klijentima i policiji
09:07
to get abusive in the knowledge
they'll get away with it.
they'll get away with it.
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da postanu nasilni zbog spoznaje
da neće biti kažnjeni.
da neće biti kažnjeni.
09:10
Fines and criminal records force
people to keep selling sex,
people to keep selling sex,
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Kazne i policijski dosjei tjeraju ljude
da i dalje prodaju seks,
da i dalje prodaju seks,
09:13
rather than enabling them to stop.
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umjesto da im omogućuju da prestanu.
09:16
Crackdowns on buyers drive sellers
to take dangerous risks
to take dangerous risks
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Strože kazne za kupce tjeraju prodavače
na opasan rizik
na opasan rizik
09:19
and into the arms
of potentially abusive managers.
of potentially abusive managers.
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i u ruke potencijalno nasilnih menadžera.
09:21
These laws also reinforce stigma
and hatred against sex workers.
and hatred against sex workers.
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Ovi zakoni pojačavaju stigmu i mržnju
prema seksualnim radnicama.
prema seksualnim radnicama.
09:25
When France temporarily brought in
the Swedish model two years ago,
the Swedish model two years ago,
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Kad je Francuska prije dvije godine
privremeno uvela švedski model
privremeno uvela švedski model
09:28
ordinary citizens took it as a cue
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obični građani su to shvatili kao znak
09:30
to start carrying out vigilante attacks
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za početak opreznih napada
09:32
against people working on the street.
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na ljude koji rade na ulici.
09:34
In Sweden, opinion surveys show
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Ankete u Švedskoj su pokazale
09:36
that significantly more people want
sex workers to be arrested now
sex workers to be arrested now
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da puno veći broj ljudi želi
uhićenje seksualnih radnika sada
uhićenje seksualnih radnika sada
09:40
than before the law was brought in.
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nego prije uvođenja tog zakona.
09:43
If prohibition is this harmful,
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Ako je zabrana ovoliko štetna,
09:45
you might ask, why it so popular?
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možda se pitate, zašto je tako popularna?
09:48
Firstly, sex work is and always
has been a survival strategy
has been a survival strategy
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Prvo, seksualni rad jest i uvijek
će biti strategija preživljavanja
će biti strategija preživljavanja
09:51
for all kinds of unpopular
minority groups:
minority groups:
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za sve vrste
nepopularnih manjinskih skupina:
nepopularnih manjinskih skupina:
09:54
people of color,
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ne-bijelci,
09:55
migrants,
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migranti,
09:57
people with disabilities,
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osobe s invaliditetom,
09:58
LGBTQ people,
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LGBTQ osobe,
09:59
particularly trans women.
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osobito transseksualke.
10:01
These are the groups most heavily profiled
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Ove skupine su najizdvojenije
10:04
and punished through prohibitionist law.
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i kažnjene prohibicionističkim zakonom.
10:06
I don't think this is an accident.
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Ne vjerujem da je to slučajnost.
10:08
These laws have political support
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Ovi zakoni imaju političku podršku
10:10
precisely because they target people
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upravo zato što ciljaju ljude
10:12
that voters don't want
to see or know about.
to see or know about.
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koje glasači ne žele vidjeti
ili znati za njih.
ili znati za njih.
10:16
Why else might people support prohibition?
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Zašto bi inače ljudi podržavali zabranu?
10:19
Well, lots of people have
understandable fears about trafficking.
understandable fears about trafficking.
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Mnogi imaju razumljiv
strah od trgovanja ljudima.
strah od trgovanja ljudima.
10:23
Folks think that foreign women
kidnapped and sold into sexual slavery
kidnapped and sold into sexual slavery
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Ljudi misle da se strankinje, otete
i prodane u seksualno ropstvo,
i prodane u seksualno ropstvo,
10:27
can be saved by shutting
a whole industry down.
a whole industry down.
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mogu spasiti gašenjem cijele industrije.
10:30
So let's talk about trafficking.
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Zato razgovarajmo o trgovanju ljudima.
10:33
Forced labor does occur
in many industries,
in many industries,
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Prisilni rad se javlja u mnogim
industrijskim granama,
industrijskim granama,
10:36
especially those where the workers
are migrants or otherwise vulnerable,
are migrants or otherwise vulnerable,
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osobito u kojima su radnici migranti
ili na drugi način ranjivi,
ili na drugi način ranjivi,
10:40
and this needs to be addressed.
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i time se treba baviti.
10:42
But it's best addressed with legislation
targeting those specific abuses,
targeting those specific abuses,
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A najbolje ga je riješiti zakonima
koji ciljaju određene slučaje,
koji ciljaju određene slučaje,
10:46
not an entire industry.
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ne cijelu industriju.
10:48
When 23 undocumented Chinese migrants
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Kad su se 23 neprijavljena
kineska migranta
kineska migranta
10:51
drowned while picking cockles
in Morecambe Bay in 2004,
in Morecambe Bay in 2004,
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utopila dok su brali školjke u
Zaljevu Morecambe 2004. godine,
Zaljevu Morecambe 2004. godine,
10:54
there were no calls to outlaw
the entire seafood industry
the entire seafood industry
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nije bilo poziva za
zabranjivanje cijele industrije
zabranjivanje cijele industrije
10:57
to save trafficking victims.
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da se spase žrtve.
10:59
The solution is clearly to give
workers more legal protections,
workers more legal protections,
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Rješenje je jasno dati
radnicima više pravne zaštite,
radnicima više pravne zaštite,
11:02
allowing them to resist abuse
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dopustiti im da se odupru zlostavljanju
11:04
and report it to authorities
without fear of arrest.
without fear of arrest.
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i prijave vlastima bez straha od uhićenja.
11:07
The way the term trafficking
is thrown around
is thrown around
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Način na koji se razbacujemo
"trgovanjem ljudima"
"trgovanjem ljudima"
11:09
implies that all undocumented
migration into prostitution is forced.
migration into prostitution is forced.
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implicira da je sva nezabilježena
migracija u prostituciju prisiljena.
migracija u prostituciju prisiljena.
11:14
In fact, many migrants
have made a decision,
have made a decision,
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Zapravo, mnogi migranti su odlučili,
11:17
out of economic need,
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iz ekonomske potrebe,
11:18
to place themselves into the hands
of people smugglers.
of people smugglers.
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staviti se u ruke krijumčara ljudi.
11:21
Many do this with the full knowledge
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Mnogi to rade iako jasno znaju
11:23
that they'll be selling sex
when they reach their destination.
when they reach their destination.
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da će prodavati seks
kad stignu na odredište.
kad stignu na odredište.
11:26
And yes, it can often be the case
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Da, često se događa
11:28
that these people smugglers
demand exorbitant fees,
demand exorbitant fees,
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da krijumčari zahtijevaju
pretjerane naknade,
pretjerane naknade,
11:31
coerce migrants into work
they don't want to do
they don't want to do
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prisiljavaju migrante
na posao koji ne žele
na posao koji ne žele
11:34
and abuse them when they're vulnerable.
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i zlostavljaju ih kad su ranjivi.
11:36
That's true of prostitution,
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To vrijedi za prostituciju,
11:37
but it's also true of agricultural work,
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ali također i za rad u poljoprivredi,
11:39
hospitality work and domestic work.
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ugostiteljstvo i služenje u kući.
11:42
Ultimately, nobody wants
to be forced to do any kind of work,
to be forced to do any kind of work,
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Na kraju, nitko ne želi biti
prisiljen raditi bilo kakav posao,
prisiljen raditi bilo kakav posao,
11:46
but that's a risk many migrants
are willing to take,
are willing to take,
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ali to je rizik koji su mnogi
migranti spremni prihvatiti,
migranti spremni prihvatiti,
11:48
because of what they're leaving behind.
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zbog onoga što ostavljaju.
11:50
If people were allowed to migrate legally
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Da je ljudima dopušteno legalno migrirati
11:52
they wouldn't have to place their lives
into the hands of people smugglers.
into the hands of people smugglers.
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ne bi morali stavljati svoje živote
u ruke krijumčara ljudi.
u ruke krijumčara ljudi.
11:56
The problems arise
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Problem nastaje
11:57
from the criminalization of migration,
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zbog kriminalizacije migriranja,
11:59
just as they do from the criminalization
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kao i zbog kriminalizacije
12:01
of sex work itself.
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samog seksualnog rada.
12:02
This is a lesson of history.
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To je lekcija iz povijesti.
12:03
If you try to prohibit something
that people want or need to do,
that people want or need to do,
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Ako pokušate zabraniti nešto što
ljudi žele ili trebaju raditi,
ljudi žele ili trebaju raditi,
12:07
whether that's drinking alcohol
or crossing borders
or crossing borders
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bilo da je to piti alkohol
ili prijeći granice
ili prijeći granice
12:11
or getting an abortion
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ili pobaciti
12:12
or selling sex,
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ili prodavati seks,
12:14
you create more problems than you solve.
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stvarate više problema nego što rješavate.
12:16
Prohibition barely makes a difference
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Zabrana skoro ništa ne znači
12:18
to the amount of people
actually doing those things.
actually doing those things.
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ljudima koji zaista čine te stvari.
12:20
But it makes a huge difference
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Ali znači puno
12:22
as to whether or not
they're safe when they do them.
they're safe when they do them.
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za njihovu sigurnost dok ih čine.
12:25
Why else might people support prohibition?
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Zašto bi inače ljudi podržavali zabranu?
12:28
As a feminist, I know
that the sex industry is a site
that the sex industry is a site
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Kao feministkinja, znam
da je seksualna industrija
da je seksualna industrija
12:32
of deeply entrenched social inequality.
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mjesto duboko ukorijenjene
društvene nejednakosti.
društvene nejednakosti.
12:35
It's a fact that most buyers of sex
are men with money,
are men with money,
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Činjenica je da većinu kupaca seksa
čine muškarci s novcem,
čine muškarci s novcem,
12:38
and most sellers are women without.
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a većinu prodavača žene bez novca.
12:40
You can agree with all that -- I do --
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Možete se slagati s time -- kao ja --
12:43
and still think prohibition
is a terrible policy.
is a terrible policy.
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a i dalje misliti da je zabrana
užasna odluka.
užasna odluka.
12:46
In a better, more equal world,
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U boljem, ravnopravnijem svijetu,
12:48
maybe there would be far fewer
people selling sex to survive,
people selling sex to survive,
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možda bi bilo puno manje ljudi
koji prodaju seks kako bi preživjeli,
koji prodaju seks kako bi preživjeli,
12:52
but you can't simply legislate
a better world into existence.
a better world into existence.
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ali ne možete samo
zakonima ostvariti bolji svijet.
zakonima ostvariti bolji svijet.
12:56
If someone needs to sell sex
because they're poor
because they're poor
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Ako netko treba
prodavati seks jer je siromašan
prodavati seks jer je siromašan
12:58
or because they're homeless
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ili jer je beskućnik
13:00
or because they're undocumented
and they can't find legal work,
and they can't find legal work,
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ili jer nema dokumente
i ne može pronaći zakonit posao,
i ne može pronaći zakonit posao,
13:03
taking away that option
doesn't make them any less poor
doesn't make them any less poor
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uzimanje ove opcije
ne čini ih manje siromašnima
ne čini ih manje siromašnima
13:06
or house them
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ne daje im kuću
13:08
or change their immigration status.
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ili mijenja status imigranta.
13:10
People worry that selling
sex is degrading.
sex is degrading.
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Ljudi se brinu da je
prodavanje seksa ponižavajuće.
prodavanje seksa ponižavajuće.
13:13
Ask yourself: is it more degrading
than going hungry
than going hungry
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Zapitajte se: je li to veće poniženje
nego biti gladan
nego biti gladan
13:16
or seeing your children go hungry?
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ili vidjeti svoju djecu gladnu?
13:19
There's no call to ban rich people
from hiring nannies
from hiring nannies
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Nema poziva na zabranu bogatih ljudi
za zapošljavanje dadilja
za zapošljavanje dadilja
13:22
or getting manicures,
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ili odlazaka na manikure,
13:23
even though most of the people
doing that labor are poor, migrant women.
doing that labor are poor, migrant women.
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iako taj posao većinom rade
siromašne migrantice.
siromašne migrantice.
13:27
It's the fact of poor migrant women
selling sex specifically
selling sex specifically
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Samo činjenica da siromašne
migrantice prodaju seks
migrantice prodaju seks
13:31
that has some feminists uncomfortable.
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nekim feministkinjama stvara neugodu.
13:34
And I can understand
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I mogu razumjeti
13:35
why the sex industry provokes
strong feelings.
strong feelings.
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zašto seksualna industrija
izaziva snažne osjećaje.
izaziva snažne osjećaje.
13:38
People have all kinds
of complicated feelings
of complicated feelings
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Ljudi imaju svakakve komplicirane osjećaje
13:41
when it comes to sex.
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kad se radi o seksu.
13:43
But we can't make policy
on the basis of mere feelings,
on the basis of mere feelings,
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Ali ne možemo stvarati politiku
samo na temelju osjećaja,
samo na temelju osjećaja,
13:46
especially not over
the heads of the people
the heads of the people
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a pogotovo bez uključivanja ljudi
13:48
actually effected by those policies.
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na koje ona zapravo utječe.
13:50
If we get fixated on
the abolition of sex work,
the abolition of sex work,
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Ako se usredotočimo
na ukidanje seksualnog rada,
na ukidanje seksualnog rada,
13:53
we end up worrying more
about a particular manifestation
about a particular manifestation
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na kraju se više brinemo
o određenom pokazivanju
o određenom pokazivanju
13:55
of gender inequality,
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spolne nejednakosti,
13:57
rather than about the underlying causes.
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nego o njezinim uzrocima.
14:00
People get really hung up on the question,
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Ljudi inzistiraju na pitanju,
14:02
"Well, would you want
your daughter doing it?"
your daughter doing it?"
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"I, bi li htjela da tvoja kći to radi?"
14:05
That's the wrong question.
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To je krivo pitanje.
14:07
Instead, imagine she is doing it.
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Umjesto toga, zamisli da ona to radi.
14:10
How safe is she at work tonight?
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Koliko je sigurna noću na poslu?
14:13
Why isn't she safer?
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Zašto nije sigurnija?
14:16
So we've looked at full criminalization,
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Pogledali smo potpunu kriminalizaciju,
14:19
partial criminalization,
the Swedish or Nordic Model
the Swedish or Nordic Model
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djelomičnu kriminalizaciju,
Švedski ili Nordijski model
Švedski ili Nordijski model
14:22
and legalization,
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i legalizaciju,
14:23
and how they all cause harm.
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te kako su svi oni štetni.
14:25
Something I never hear asked is:
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Nikad nisam čula pitanje:
14:28
"What do sex workers want?"
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"Što seksualne radnice žele?"
14:31
After all, we're the ones
most affected by these laws.
most affected by these laws.
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Uostalom, mi smo
pod najvećim utjecajem tih zakona.
pod najvećim utjecajem tih zakona.
14:35
New Zealand decriminalized
sex work in 2003.
sex work in 2003.
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Novi Zeland je dekriminalizirao
seksualni rad 2003.
seksualni rad 2003.
14:38
It's crucial to remember
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Važno je zapamtiti
14:40
that decriminalization and legalization
are not the same thing.
are not the same thing.
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da dekriminalizacija i legalizacija
nisu iste stvari.
nisu iste stvari.
14:43
Decriminalization means
the removal of laws
the removal of laws
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Dekriminalizacija je ukidanje zakona
14:46
that punitively target the sex industry,
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kojima je cilj kazniti seksualnu industiju
14:48
instead treating sex work
much like any other kind of work.
much like any other kind of work.
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umjesto da tretira seksualni rad
kao svaku drugu vrstu posla.
kao svaku drugu vrstu posla.
14:52
In New Zealand, people
can work together for safety,
can work together for safety,
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U Novom Zelandu ljudi mogu raditi zajedno
radi sigurnosti,
radi sigurnosti,
14:55
and employers of sex workers
are accountable to the state.
are accountable to the state.
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a poslodavci seksualnih radnica
odgovaraju državi.
odgovaraju državi.
14:57
A sex worker can refuse
to see a client at any time,
to see a client at any time,
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Seksualna radnica može bilo kada
odbiti vidjeti klijenta,
odbiti vidjeti klijenta,
15:00
for any reason,
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iz bilo kojeg razloga,
15:02
and 96 percent of street workers
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i 96% seksualnih radnica na ulici
15:04
report that they feel the law
protects their rights.
protects their rights.
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izjavljuje da osjećaju da zakon štiti
njihova prava.
njihova prava.
15:07
New Zealand hasn't actually
seen an increase
seen an increase
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U Novom Zelandu nije zabilježen porast
15:09
in the amount of people doing sex work,
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broja ljudi koji se bave seksualnim radom,
15:12
but decriminalizing it
has made it a lot safer.
has made it a lot safer.
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ali dekriminalizacija
ga je učinila sigurnijim.
ga je učinila sigurnijim.
15:15
But the lesson from New Zealand
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Ali lekcija iz Novog Zelanda
15:16
isn't just that its particular
legislation is good,
legislation is good,
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nije samo da su njegovi
posebni zakoni dobri,
posebni zakoni dobri,
15:19
but that crucially,
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nego najvažnije,
15:20
it was written in collaboration
with sex workers;
with sex workers;
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da su napisani u suradnji
sa seksualnim radnicama,
sa seksualnim radnicama,
15:22
namely, the New Zealand
Prostitutes' Collective.
Prostitutes' Collective.
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točnije, s Kolektivom prostitutki
Novog Zelanda.
Novog Zelanda.
15:25
When it came to making sex work safer,
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Kad je trebalo seksualni rad
učiniti sigurnijim
učiniti sigurnijim
15:27
they were ready to hear it straight
from sex workers themselves.
from sex workers themselves.
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bili su spremni izravno poslušati
seksualne radnice.
seksualne radnice.
15:31
Here in the UK,
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Ovdje u UK,
15:32
I'm part of sex worker-led groups
like the Sex Worker Open University
like the Sex Worker Open University
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dio sam grupa koje vode seksualne radnice:
Otvoreno učilište seksualnih radnica
Otvoreno učilište seksualnih radnica
15:35
and the English Collective of Prostitutes.
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i Engleski kolektiv prostitutki.
15:37
And we form part of a global movement
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Dio smo globalnog pokreta
15:39
demanding decriminalization
and self-determination.
and self-determination.
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koji zahtijeva dekriminalizaciju
i samoodređenje.
i samoodređenje.
15:43
The universal symbol of our movement
is the red umbrella.
is the red umbrella.
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Opći simbol našeg pokreta
je crveni kišobran.
je crveni kišobran.
15:46
We're supported in our demands
by global bodies like UNAIDS,
by global bodies like UNAIDS,
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Naše zahtjeve podupiru globalna tijela
poput UNAIDS-a,
poput UNAIDS-a,
15:49
the World Health Organization
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Svjetske zdravstvene organizacije
15:51
and Amnesty International.
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i Amnesty International.
15:52
But we need more allies.
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Ali trebamo više saveznika.
15:55
If you care about gender equality
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Ako vam je stalo do ravnopravnosti spolova
15:57
or poverty or migration or public health,
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ili siromaštva ili migracija
ili javnog zdravlja,
ili javnog zdravlja,
16:00
then sex worker rights matter to you.
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tada vam je stalo
i do prava seksualnih radnica.
i do prava seksualnih radnica.
16:03
Make space for us in your movements.
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Napravite nam mjesta u svojim pokretima.
16:05
That means not only listening
to sex workers when we speak
to sex workers when we speak
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To znači ne samo slušanje
seksualnih radnica kad govorimo,
seksualnih radnica kad govorimo,
16:08
but amplifying our voices.
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nego i pojačavanje naših glasova.
16:11
Resist those who silence us,
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Oduprite se onima koji nas utišavaju,
16:13
those who say that a prostitute
is either too victimized,
is either too victimized,
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onima koji kažu da se prostitutka
prečesto proglasi žrtvom,
prečesto proglasi žrtvom,
16:16
too damaged to know
what's best for herself,
what's best for herself,
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da je previše oštećena
da zna što je najbolje za nju,
da zna što je najbolje za nju,
16:19
or else too privileged
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ili previše privilegirana
16:20
and too removed from real hardship,
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i previše udaljena od pravih nevolja,
16:23
not representative of the millions
of voiceless victims.
of voiceless victims.
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nije predstavnica
milijuna žrtava bez glasa.
milijuna žrtava bez glasa.
16:27
This distinction between victim
and empowered is imaginary.
and empowered is imaginary.
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Razlika između žrtava i osnaženih
je imaginarna.
je imaginarna.
16:32
It exists purely to discredit sex workers
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Postoji samo kako bi seksualne
radnice izgubile ugled
radnice izgubile ugled
16:35
and make it easy to ignore us.
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i kako bi ih bilo lakše ignorirati.
16:37
No doubt many of you work for a living.
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Bez sumnje mnogi od vas rade za život.
16:40
Well, sex work is work, too.
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Pa, seks je također rad.
16:42
Just like you,
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Baš kao vi,
16:44
some of us like our jobs,
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neke od nas vole svoj posao,
16:45
some of us hate them.
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neke od nas ga mrze.
16:47
Ultimately, most of us
have mixed feelings.
have mixed feelings.
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Naposljetku, većina nas ima
podijeljene osjećaje.
podijeljene osjećaje.
16:51
But how we feel about our work
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Ali ne radi se o tome
16:54
isn't the point.
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što mislimo o poslu.
16:56
And how others feel
about our work certainly isn't.
about our work certainly isn't.
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A sigurno se ne radi ni o tome
što drugi misle o našem poslu.
što drugi misle o našem poslu.
17:00
What's important is that we have
the right to work safely
the right to work safely
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Važno je da imamo pravo raditi
na sigurnom
na sigurnom
17:03
and on our own terms.
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i pod vlastitim uvjetima.
17:04
Sex workers are real people.
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Seksualne radnice su stvarne osobe.
17:06
We've had complicated experiences
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Imale smo složena iskustva
17:09
and complicated responses
to those experiences.
to those experiences.
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i složene odgovore na ta iskustva.
17:13
But our demands are not complicated.
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Ali naši zahtjevi nisu složeni.
17:16
You can ask expensive
escorts in New York City,
escorts in New York City,
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Možete pitati skupe
dame u New York Cityju,
dame u New York Cityju,
17:19
brothel workers in Cambodia,
street workers in South Africa
street workers in South Africa
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radnice u bordelima Kambodže,
radnice na ulicama Južne Afrike,
radnice na ulicama Južne Afrike,
17:22
and every girl on the roster
at my old job in Soho,
at my old job in Soho,
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i svaku djevojku s popisa na mom
prošlom poslu u Sohou
prošlom poslu u Sohou
17:25
and they will all tell you the same thing.
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i sve će vam reći isto.
17:27
You can speak to millions of sex workers
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Možete govoriti s milijunima
seksualnih radnica
seksualnih radnica
17:30
and countless sex work-led organizations.
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i nebrojenim organizacijama
koje vodi seksualni rad.
koje vodi seksualni rad.
17:32
We want full decriminalization
and labor rights as workers.
and labor rights as workers.
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Želimo potpunu dekriminalizaciju
i radnička prava kao radnice.
i radnička prava kao radnice.
17:36
I'm just one sex worker
on the stage today,
on the stage today,
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Ja sam samo jedna
seksualna radnica danas ovdje,
seksualna radnica danas ovdje,
17:39
but I'm bringing a message
from all over the world.
from all over the world.
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ali donosim poruku iz cijelog svijeta.
17:41
Thank you.
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Hvala.
17:43
(Applause)
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(Pljesak).
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Juno Mac - Sex worker and activistJuno Mac campaigns for better working conditions for sex workers by fighting criminalization and supporting public education projects around issues relating to sex worker rights.
Why you should listen
Juno Mac is a sex worker and activist with the Sex Worker Open University (SWOU), a sex worker-led collective with branches in London, Leeds and Glasgow. SWOU is focussed on advocacy, campaigning, cultural events and community support for sex workers.
Through their organizing, SWOU activists support each other through stigma and isolation, demand better working conditions by fighting criminalization and provide public education around issues relating to sex worker rights. Mac's activist work with SWOU has included delivering workshops in universities, political lobbying and campaigning, consulting with human rights organisations (including Amnesty International), appearances on radio and TV, and taking part in public panel discussions at festivals and conferences.
Mac has also curated an exhibition of sex worker art, contributed to magazines and a live storytelling night, facilitated skill-sharing and support spaces for fellow sex workers, and helped to organise SWOU's Open Conference of The Advancement of Sex Worker Rights 2015.
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