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A wildly creative band of music- and video-makers, OK Go is building a media empire on the back of endless, boundless ingenuity.

Why you should listen
Singer and video director Damian Kulash, Jr. and bassist Tim Nordwind met at summer camp in 1987, and a decade later they formed OK Go. With Dan Konopka as drummer and Andy Ross as guitarist and resident computer programmer, they've built a unique career at the intersection of music, visual art, technology, and science. They're among an emerging class of artists whose 21st-century brand of experimental creativity dissolves the traditional boundaries between disciplines.

"When our band started, music and art were actually different things," says Kulash. "Musicians made plastic discs and artists made objects for galleries. Now we all make ones and zeros, so the categorical distinctions don’t make much sense anymore."

OK Go have collaborated with dance companies and tech giants, cosmonauts and Muppets, scientists and entrepreneurs. Their videos have been encoded on strands of actual DNA. They've penned New York Times op-eds and testified before the US Congress, and they were President Obama's selection to perform at his 50th birthday party.

OK Go received The Smithsonian American Ingenuity Award for Visual Art, and they've been honored with a Grammy, three MTV Video Music Awards, eleven Cannes Lions, a CLIO, three UK Music Video Awards, two Webby Awards and have had their work presented at The Guggenheim, MoCA, LACMA, The Hirschhorn, The Hammer Museum and Seattle’s Museum of Pop Culture. Their latest video is "The One Moment," directed by Kulash.
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OK Go: How to find a wonderful idea

OK Go: 如何想出絕妙好點子

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OK Go 從何為他們的 MV 想出點子,像是在無重力中跳舞、用超慢速度表演,或是建立倉庫尺寸的魯布戈德堡機械?在「This Too Shall Pass」及「The One Moment」的現場演出之間,主唱兼總監戴米恩庫拉許帶我們進入樂團的創意過程,讓我們看看如何尋找奇蹟與驚喜。
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00:21
(Dominoes多米諾骨牌 fall秋季)
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(骨牌倒下)
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(Toy玩具 car汽車)
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(玩具車)
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(Ball rolls勞斯萊斯)
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(球滾動)
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(Music音樂: "This Too Shall Pass通過")
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(音樂:「這終究也會過去」)
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(Singing唱歌)
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(唱歌)
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You know you can't keep
letting出租 it get you down,
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你知道你不能一直
允許它讓你處在低潮,
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and you can't keep dragging拖延
that dead weight重量 around.
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你不能到哪都一直拖著那重負。
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If there ain't all that much to lug耳狀物 around
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如果沒有什麼需要隨身拖著,
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better run like hell地獄
when you hit擊中 the ground地面
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你最好一落地就開始拼命跑。
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When the morning早上 comes
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當早晨到來,
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When the morning早上 comes
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當早晨到來,
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You can't stop these kids孩子 from dancing跳舞,
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你無法阻止這些孩子跳舞,
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but why would you want to,
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但你為什麼想這樣做,
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especially特別 when you're
already已經 getting得到 yours你的?
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特別是當你已經得到你的了?
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(Xylophone木琴)
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(木琴)
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(Singing唱歌) 'Cause'原因 if your mind心神
don't move移動 and your knees膝蓋 don't bend彎曲,
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(唱歌)因為如果你不動腦筋、
如果你不彎膝蓋,
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well don't go blaming歸咎 the kids孩子 again.
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那就不要再去怪罪那些孩子。
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(Xylophone木琴)
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(木琴)
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(Singing唱歌) When the morning早上 comes
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(唱歌)當早晨到來,
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When the morning早上 comes
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當早晨到來,
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When the morning早上 comes
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當早晨到來,
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When the morning早上 comes
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當早晨到來,
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When the morning早上 comes
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當早晨到來,
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When the morning早上 comes
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當早晨到來,
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(Xylophone木琴)
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(木琴)
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(Singing唱歌) Let it go,
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(唱歌)放手讓它走,
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this too shall pass通過
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這終將也會過去。
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Let it go,
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放手讓它走,
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this too shall pass通過
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這終將也會過去。
02:47
You know you can't keep
letting出租 it get you down,
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你知道你不能一直
允許它讓你處在低潮,
02:51
you can't keep letting出租 it get you down --
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你不能一直允許它讓你處在低潮,
02:54
this too shall pass通過
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這終將也會過去。
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If there ain't
all that much to lug耳狀物 around,
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如果沒有什麼需要隨身拖著,
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you can't keep letting出租 it get you down --
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你不能一直允許它讓你處在低潮,
03:06
this too shall pass通過
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這終將也會過去。
03:10
When the morning早上 comes --
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當早晨到來,
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you can't keep letting出租 it get you down,
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你不能一直允許它讓你處在低潮,
03:15
no you can't keep letting出租 it
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不,你不能一直允許它。
03:16
When the morning早上 comes --
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當早晨到來,
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you can't keep letting出租 it get you down,
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你不能一直允許它讓你處在低潮,
03:21
no you can't keep letting出租 it
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不,你不能一直允許它。
03:22
When the morning早上 comes --
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當早晨到來,
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you can't keep letting出租 it get you down,
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你不能一直允許它讓你處在低潮,
03:27
no you can't keep letting出租 it
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不,你不能一直允許它。
03:29
When the morning早上 comes --
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當早晨到來,
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you can't keep letting出租 it get you down,
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你不能一直允許它讓你處在低潮,
03:33
no you can't keep letting出租 it
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不,你不能一直允許它。
03:35
When the morning早上 comes
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當早晨到來,
03:42
(Paint塗料 guns槍砲 fire)
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(油漆槍開槍)
03:44
(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
03:52
Damian達米安 KulashKulash:
Thank you, thanks謝謝 very much.
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戴米恩庫拉許:謝謝,非常謝謝。
03:54
We are OK Go,
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我們是「OK Go」,
03:56
and we've我們已經 been together一起
as a band since以來 1998.
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從 1998 年開始,
我們就組成了這個樂團。
04:00
But in the last decade,
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但在過去十年,
04:01
we've我們已經 become成為 known已知 as much
for the elaborate闡述 music音樂 videos視頻,
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我們精心製作的 MV,
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like the one we just saw,
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就像我們剛剛看到的那段,
04:06
as for the songs歌曲 they accompany.
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開始和它們伴隨的歌曲一樣知名。
04:08
So we will play along沿 with another另一個
one of those in a few少數 minutes分鐘,
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幾分鐘後我們會再表演
另一段這類的 MV,
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but in the meantime與此同時,
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但在此同時
04:13
we want to address地址 this question
that we get asked all the time
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有個我們常被問到的問題,
但我們一直沒有
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but we've我們已經 really never come up
with an adequate充足 answer回答 for it,
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想出適當的答案,
現在我們想要說明一下,
04:19
and that is, how do we
think of those ideas思路?
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那個問題就是:
我們怎麼想出這些點子的?
04:23
The videos視頻 are not all
Rube鄉巴佬 Goldberg戈德堡 machines, by the way.
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順道一提,這些影片並非全是
魯布戈德堡機械(過度複雜的機械)。
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Last year we did a dance舞蹈 in zero gravity重力,
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去年,我們在無重力狀態下跳舞,
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and once一旦 we set up an obstacle障礙 course課程
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有一次我們在沙漠中用
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out of thousands數千 of musical音樂
instruments儀器 in the desert沙漠,
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上千個樂器建立了一條障礙賽跑道,
04:34
and then played發揮 them
by stunt特技 driving主動 a car汽車 through通過 them.
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然後以開特技車穿越它們
的方式來演奏它們。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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For one of the videos視頻,
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為了其中一支影片,
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we choreographed編排
hundreds數以百計 of people with umbrellas雨傘
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我們編排讓數百人帶著雨傘,
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in an abandoned parking停車處 lot outside Tokyo東京,
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在東京外的一個廢棄停車場,
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and then filmed拍攝 them from a drone無人駕駛飛機
a half a mile英里 in the air空氣.
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用一台空中無人機
從半哩外拍攝他們。
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So it's all of these ideas思路
that people are curious好奇 about,
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人們對這些點子感到好奇,
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and the reason原因 we've我們已經 had so much trouble麻煩
describing說明 how we think of these ideas思路
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我們之所以很難描述
我們如何想出這些點子,
04:56
is that it doesn't really feel
like we think of them at all.
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是因為這些點子感覺完全
不像是我們想出來的。
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It feels感覺 like we find them.
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感覺像是我們找到它們的。
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And by way of explanation說明 --
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為了解釋起見…
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well, I have a compulsive強迫 habit習慣.
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我有一種強迫性的習慣,
05:09
I play parallax視差 and perspective透視 games遊戲
with my eyes眼睛 pretty漂亮 much all the time,
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我幾乎時時刻刻用我的眼睛
在玩視差和透視圖的遊戲,
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and it's something I've been doing
since以來 I was a teenager青少年.
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我從青少年時期開始
就一直這麼做了。
05:16
And I think the big contributing貢獻
factor因子 may可能 have been
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我想,一個重要的原因可能是
05:19
that this is how I decorated裝飾
my high school學校 bedroom臥室.
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我是這樣裝飾我高中臥室的。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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And being存在 a teenager青少年,
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身為青少年,
05:25
what I did in there, of course課程,
was just talk on the phone電話
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我在臥室中所做的事只有講電話,
05:27
for staggering踉蹌 amounts of time.
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花非常長的時間講電話。
05:31
So I was in this visual視覺 maelstrom漩渦
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所以我身處這個視覺大混亂當中,
05:33
just pretty漂亮 much
usually平時 sitting坐在 in one place地點,
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通常就是一直坐在一個地方,
05:35
and I guess猜測 just
the overload超載 in general一般 --
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我猜想八成是超載了…
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my brain kind of tried試著
to make sense of it, and I would --
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我的頭腦試著理出道理來,而我會…
05:41
If I could move移動 my head off
to one side a little bit,
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如果我把我的頭向一邊稍微移動一點,
05:44
the edge邊緣 of the desk
would line up just perfectly完美
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書桌的邊緣就會完美對齊
05:46
with that poster海報 on the opposite對面 wall;
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對面牆壁上的海報;
或是把我的大拇指伸出來,
05:48
or if I put my thumb拇指 out,
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05:49
I could close first my left eye
and then my right,
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我會先閉上我的左眼,接著右眼,
05:52
and my thumb拇指 would bounce彈跳 back and forth向前
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我的大拇指就會看起來在
吉米亨德里克斯的
左右眼之間彈來彈去,
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between之間 Jimi吉米 Hendrix'sHendrix的
left eye and his right.
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05:56
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
05:57
It was not a conscious意識 thing, of course課程,
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當然,這不是有意識的。
05:59
this is just kind of the equivalent當量
of doodling塗鴉 while you're talking,
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有點像是你邊說話邊塗鴉,
06:03
and it's still something
I do all the time.
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我仍然常常在這樣做。
06:05
This is my wife妻子, Kristin克里斯汀 --
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這是我太太,克莉絲汀。
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(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
06:07
Yeah!
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是啊!
06:09
Woo求愛!
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(歡呼聲)
06:11
And it's not uncommon罕見
that we are out at dinner晚餐,
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常常,我們出去吃飯時,
06:14
and in the middle中間 of a great conversation會話
she'll貝殼 just stop mid-sentence中期句子,
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在很棒的對話中,她會突然
句子說到一半就停下來,
06:18
and when she stops停止 is when I realize實現
that I'm the one who's誰是 acting演戲 weird奇怪的
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當她停下來時,我才了解到
我才是行為怪異的那個人,
06:21
because I'm like bobbing上下擺動 and weaving織布.
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因為我正在來回擺動和迂迴搖晃。
06:23
And what I'm trying to do
is get that ficus back there
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我在試著把後面這榕屬植物
06:26
to stick out of her head like a ponytail馬尾巴.
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從她的頭伸出來,像一條馬尾一樣。
06:28
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
06:30
The point of telling告訴 you
all this is that --
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告訴你們這些的目的是因為,
06:33
for me this is what it feels感覺 like
to have an idea理念.
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對我而言,有個點子的感覺
就像是這樣的。
06:35
It's like they're made製作
of these disparate不同 parts部分,
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就像它們是用這些迥
然不同的部件所組成,
06:39
these disparate不同 chunks
sort分類 of floating漂浮的 out there.
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這些迥然不同的部份
就好像漂浮在那兒。
06:41
And if you're receptive接受
and you're observant細心的,
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如果你樂於接受、觀察力敏銳,
06:44
and crucially關鍵, if you're
in exactly究竟 the right place地點,
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更重要的,如果
你在完全正確的位置,
06:47
you can get them to just line up.
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你就能把它們恰好排成列。
06:50
So if you get used to --
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所以如果你習慣…
06:51
if it's your job工作
to think of ideas思路 this way,
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如果你的工作就是
用這方式來想點子,
06:54
they'll他們會 start開始 beckoning招手 to you
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它們會開始向你招手示意,
06:56
the way that Jimi's吉米的 eyes眼睛
beckoned招手 from that poster海報,
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就像吉米的眼睛從那海報上示意一樣,
06:59
or the ficus beckons招手
from behind背後 Kristin's克裡斯汀的 head.
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或是榕屬植物從克莉絲汀
的頭後面示意一樣。
07:01
Writing寫作 music音樂 feels感覺 like that process處理
just over and over again,
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寫音樂就像那個過程,只是不斷重覆,
07:04
like you've got a bunch of sounds聲音
or a groove or a chord progression級數
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就像你有一堆聲音、
一個合奏或和弦在進行。
07:09
and you're just looking
for that thing on the other side,
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你只是在尋找另一端的那東西,
07:11
that little chunk over there,
that puzzle難題 piece that clicks點擊 right in.
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那兒的那一小的部份、
剛好能對上的一片拼圖。
07:15
And when it does click點擊,
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當真的對上時,
07:16
it doesn't feel like you
thought up that puzzle難題 piece,
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感覺就不像是你想出了那片拼圖,
07:19
it feels感覺 like you found發現 it --
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感覺像是你找到它,
07:21
like it was a set of relationships關係
that you unlocked解鎖.
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就像它是一組關係,而你將它解鎖了。
07:25
But with the videos視頻 in particular特定,
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但特別是在影片方面,
07:28
we're usually平時 looking
for this specific具體 feeling感覺
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我們通常在找這種特定的感覺,
07:30
which哪一個 is wonder奇蹟.
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就是奇觀。
07:31
And there's always a component零件
of surprise to wonder奇蹟,
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總會有個元素,就是對奇觀的驚訝,
07:34
so we're not just looking for good ideas思路,
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所以我們不只是在找好點子,
07:37
we're looking for good ideas思路
that surprise us in some way.
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我們在找能夠以某種方式
讓我們驚訝的點子。
07:40
And this causes原因 something of a problem問題,
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這會造成一個問題,
07:42
because ...
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因為…
07:45
the process處理 that we all use to make stuff東東,
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我們用來製作東西的流程,
07:47
it actually其實 has a very strong強大 bias偏壓
against反對 surprising奇怪 ideas思路.
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它其實對於驚訝的點子
有非常強烈的偏見。
07:51
The process處理 I'm talking about
is the one you all know --
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我在說的流程是你們都知道的流程…
07:53
we all do it all the time.
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我們總是在用它。
07:55
You think of an idea理念.
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你想出一個點子。
07:56
You just sit and think
of your brilliant輝煌 idea理念
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你只是坐著,想著你的出色點子,
07:58
and then you come up with a plan計劃
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接著你提出一個計畫,
08:00
for how you're going to make
that idea理念 happen發生.
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規劃你要如何讓那個點子成真。
08:02
And then with that plan計劃 in mind心神,
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當腦中有了這個計畫,
08:04
you go back and double-check再檢查一遍
your original原版的 idea理念
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你回頭再次確認你的原始點子,
08:06
and maybe revise修改 it,
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也許將它修正一下,
08:07
and then bouncing蹦蹦 back and forth向前
between之間 the idea理念 and the plan計劃,
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接著在點子和計畫之間、
計畫和點子之間,
08:10
the plan計劃 and the idea理念,
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不斷來來回回 ,
08:11
eventually終於 you come up
with a truly great plan計劃.
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最終你會提出一個真的很棒的計畫。
08:14
And then once一旦 you have that,
and only then,
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當你有了這個計畫的時候,
也只有在這個時候,
08:16
do you go out and you execute執行.
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你會踏出去開始執行。
08:18
And this is like --
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這就像是…
08:20
this is sort分類 of a flawless完美無瑕 system系統
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這是一種無瑕的系統,
08:22
in terms條款 of maximizing最大化 your resources資源,
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可以將你的資源利用最佳化,
08:24
because this -- super cheap低廉.
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因為這樣做…超便宜。
08:27
Thinking思維 usually平時 costs成本 very little,
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思考的成本很低,
08:29
but this is really expensive昂貴
most of the time,
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但通常這部份就很昂貴,
08:31
so by the time you get there,
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所以當你到這部份的時候,
08:32
you want to make sure
you're super prepared準備
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你會想要確保你已經超級有準備了,
08:35
and you can squeeze every一切 last drop下降
out of what you've got.
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你可以把你有的一切都榨乾。
08:37
But there are problems問題 with this,
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但這麼做會有問題,
08:39
and math數學 will help us
reveal揭示 the biggest最大 one.
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數學會協助我們揭露出最大的問題。
08:42
Go back to that video視頻
that we just showed顯示 you.
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回到我們剛剛呈現給各位看的影片,
08:45
That Rube鄉巴佬 Goldberg戈德堡 machine,
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那個魯布戈德堡機械,
08:47
it had about 130 interactions互動 in it.
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包含了大約 130 種互動在其中。
08:49
That was 130 things
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也就是說,我們得要讓
08:52
that we had to have go
according根據 to our plan計劃.
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130 件事都依我們規劃的來進行。
08:55
So let's assume承擔 that we want
to make a new video視頻 now,
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假設我們現在想要做一支新的影片,
08:58
similarly同樣 complex複雜 -- 130 moving移動 parts部分.
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有相似的複雜度-
130 個會動的部件。
09:02
If we're really good planners規劃者
in that system系統,
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如果對於那種系統
我們算是很優秀的規劃者,
09:05
it seems似乎 like maybe
we could be good enough足夠
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也許我們可以厲害到
09:08
to get every一切 part部分 of that system系統
to be 90 percent百分 reliable可靠.
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讓系統中的每部份
都有 90% 的可靠度,
09:13
90 percent百分 sounds聲音 good, right?
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90% 聽起來很好,對吧?
09:14
Well, it's not.
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嗯,並不是如此。
09:16
It's terrible可怕 actually其實.
The numbers數字 say so.
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其實這樣糟透了,
數字是這麼告訴我們的。
09:18
The chance機會 of getting得到 all 130 things
to not fail失敗 at the same相同 time
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讓 130 樣東西同時都
成功運作的機會是
09:23
is .9 for 90 percent百分 to the 130th power功率.
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0.9(90%)的 130 次方。
09:26
So calculate計算 that out and you get ...
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算出來的結果是…
09:28
(Ding)
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(叮)
09:29
.000001,
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0.000001,
09:35
which哪一個 is one ten-thousandth萬分之一
of one percent百分,
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也就是百分之一萬分之一,
09:38
so your chance機會 for success成功
is literally按照字面 one in a million百萬.
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所以你成功的機會是
一百萬次才有一次。
09:41
(Whistle)
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(哨音)
09:43
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
09:45
I mean that's not a gamble I want to take,
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我的意思是,那並不是我想下的賭注。
09:47
so let's ratchet棘輪 up
that reliability可靠性 to 99 percent百分.
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所以我們來把可靠度提高到 99%,
09:51
.99 to the 130th power功率 is ...
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0.99 的 130 次方是…
09:54
(Ding)
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(叮)
09:55
.27 -- 27 percent百分.
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0.27,27%。
09:57
Significantly顯著 less daunting艱鉅 --
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明顯比較不會讓人氣餒…
09:59
like this might威力 even be usable可用.
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好像這系統甚至是可行的了。
10:00
But really think about that.
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但真正去思考一下。
10:02
How many許多 parts部分 of your lives生活
are 99 percent百分 reliable可靠?
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你的人生中有多少部份
會有 99% 的可靠度?
10:06
And could you really get 130 of them
all in one place地點 at once一旦?
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且你有辦法讓 130 個部份
全部同時都順利運作嗎?
10:11
And if you really could,
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若你真的能,
10:13
doesn't it seem似乎
like you deserve值得 to succeed成功?
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成功不是看來就是你應得的嗎?
10:16
Like that is --
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就像,那是…
10:17
that thing is going to work, right?
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那東西將會成功,對吧?
10:19
But no, it actually其實 fails失敗 three times
more often經常 than it succeeds成功.
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但,不是的,它的失敗機率
是成功機率的三倍。
10:22
So the upshot結果 of all this
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所以這一切的結論是,
10:24
is that if your project項目
is pretty漂亮 complex複雜 --
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如果你的專案計畫十分複雜,
10:27
like, you know,
every一切 ambitious有雄心 project項目 is --
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就像每個有野心的專案計畫一樣,
10:30
if you've got a lot of moving移動 parts部分,
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如果你有很多會動的部份,
10:32
you're basically基本上 constrained受限
to just reshuffling重新洗牌 ideas思路
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你基本上會被限制在
只能重組那些
10:36
that have already已經 demonstrablydemonstrably
proven證明 that they're 100 percent百分 reliable可靠.
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已經被明確證明
100% 可靠的點子。
10:41
So now go back to me sitting坐在
with my thumb拇指 in the air空氣
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現在回到先前談的,
我坐著並把大拇指伸出來,
10:43
trying to line up something surprising奇怪.
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試著用對齊的方式找出驚喜,
10:45
If the only things I'm allowed允許
to consider考慮 in the first place地點
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如果一開始我被允許
能考量的東西
10:48
are ideas思路 that have already已經 been doneDONE
over and over and over again,
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都是已經被一再做過的東西,
10:52
I am screwed.
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那我就沒戲唱了。
10:56
However然而, there are ways方法 around this,
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然而,這是有救的,
10:57
because we all know that there are
tons of untried未經試驗 ideas思路 still out there,
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因為我們都知道,還有一大堆
沒被試過的點子存在,
11:02
and plenty豐富 of them will turn out
to be every一切 bit as reliable可靠 as we need,
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當中有許多點子的可靠度
非常符合我們的需求,
11:05
it's just that we don't yet然而 know
they are reliable可靠
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只是在規劃階段時我們還不知道
11:08
when we are at this planning規劃 phase.
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它們是可靠的而已。
11:10
So what we do is we try
to identify鑑定 some place地點
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所以我們的做法是,找出一些地方,
11:13
where there might威力 just be
a ton of those untried未經試驗 ideas思路.
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找出可能有一堆
尚未嘗試的點子的地方。
11:17
We try to find a sandbox砂箱
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我們試著找來一個沙盒,
11:19
and then we gamble
a whole整個 bunch of our resources資源
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接著我們賭上我們的許多資源,
11:21
on getting得到 in that sandbox砂箱 and playing播放.
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讓我們進到那個沙盒中並開始玩。
11:24
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
11:26
Because we have to trust相信
that it's the process處理 in the sandbox砂箱
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因為我們得要相信,
在沙盒中玩的過程
11:29
that will reveal揭示 to us
which哪一個 ideas思路 are not only surprising奇怪,
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會向我們揭示有哪些點子
不但很出乎意料,
11:33
but surprisingly出奇 reliable可靠.
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且出乎意料地可靠。
11:35
So some of the sandboxes沙箱
that we've我們已經 started開始 videos視頻 with.
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來看看我們用來
創造出影片的一些沙盒。
11:38
Let's play with optical光纖 illusions幻想.
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我們來玩玩光學錯覺。
11:42
Let's try to dance舞蹈 on moving移動 surfaces.
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我們來試著在移動的表面上跳舞。
11:44
Let's try to make toast烤麵包
with a laser激光 cutter切割機.
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我們來試著用雷射切割器做土司。
11:48
Or let's do something in one
of those zero-gravity零重力 airplanes飛機.
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或,我們到無重力的
飛機上去做點什麼。
11:53
But then instead代替
of actually其實 trying to sit there
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我們並不是真的試著坐在那裡
11:55
and think out what that something is,
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去想出要做什麼。
11:57
we spent花費 a full充分 third第三 of our budget預算
getting得到 in an actual實際 Vomit嘔吐 Comet彗星
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我們花了整整 1/3 的預算進到
嘔吐慧星(NASA的零重力訓練機),
12:01
and bouncing蹦蹦 off the walls牆壁 for a week.
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花一星期在裡面的牆壁彈來彈去。
12:04
So this may可能 seem似乎 to you like testing測試,
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你可能覺得這像是測試,
12:08
but it really isn't,
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但其實不是,
12:09
because at this point
we don't yet然而 know what our idea理念 is,
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因為在這個時點,
我們還不知道我們的點子是什麼,
12:12
we don't have a plan計劃 to be testing測試.
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我們沒有計畫可以測試。
12:15
So we're just --
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所以我們只是…
12:17
we're just playing播放,
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我們只是在玩,
12:18
we're just trying everything
we can think of,
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我們只是在試
所有我們能想出的一切,
12:20
because we need to get this idea理念 space空間
filled填充 up with a chaos混沌
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我們得要讓這個
點子空間中充滿混亂,
12:24
like the one in my high school學校 bedroom臥室.
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就像我高中臥室裡的點子空間一樣。
12:26
Because then, if we can
do the bob短發 and weave編織 thing,
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因為如果我們能做出
別人意想不到的,
12:29
if we can put our thumbs大拇指 up
and get just a few少數 things to line up --
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如果我們能把大拇指拿出來
並且把幾樣東西對齊在一起…
12:33
(Ding)
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(叮)
12:34
chances機會 are no one else其他 has ever made製作
those same相同 things line up before.
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就有可能從來沒有別人曾將
同樣這些東西對齊在一起過。
12:39
And when we're doneDONE with that project項目,
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當我們完成了專案計畫的那個地方,
12:41
people will ask us again
how we thought of that idea理念,
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人們會再問次我們
是如何想出那點子的,
12:43
and we'll be stumped難倒,
because from our perspective透視,
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我們會很為難,
因為從我們的觀點來看,
12:46
it doesn't feel like
we thought of it at all,
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那點子感覺一點也不像是
我們想出來的,
感覺只是我們找到了它。
12:48
it just feels感覺 like we found發現 it.
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現在我們再放一段影片給各位看,
還有它搭配的歌曲。
12:49
So we'll play another另一個 video視頻 for you now
and the song歌曲 along沿 with it.
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這影片是為了「那一刻
(The One Moment)」所做的,
12:53
This is for the song歌曲 "The One Moment時刻,"
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12:54
and for this one,
the sandbox砂箱 was ballistics彈道學 and math數學.
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這個影片的沙盒是
彈道學和數學。
12:59
So I spent花費 a full充分 month putting together一起
a giant巨人 spreadsheet電子表格 for this.
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我為此花了一整個月
做出了一張超大試算表。
13:04
It was like my playspace遊戲空間
was 400 lines long
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它就像是我的玩樂空間,
有 400 行的長度,
13:07
and 25 columns wide --
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25 欄的寬度…
13:10
which哪一個 I presume假設 that if anybody任何人 is going
to understand理解 that, it's this crowd人群.
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我想如果有任何人能了解它的話,
肯定是你們這群觀眾。
13:14
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
13:15
Nothing is better
than a giant巨人 spreadsheet電子表格, right?
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沒什麼比超大試算表更棒了,對吧?
13:17
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
13:19
Well, thank you everyone大家, very much.
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非常謝謝各位。
13:20
We are OK Go,
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我們是 OK Go,
13:22
and this is called "The One Moment時刻."
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這首歌是「那一刻
(The One Moment)」。
13:23
(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
13:27
[The One Moment時刻]
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〔那一刻〕
13:30
(Explosions爆炸)
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(爆炸)
13:36
[What you just saw was real真實
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【你剛剛看見的是真實發生的,
13:38
and it took 4.2 seconds]
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它花了 4.2 秒鐘。】
13:39
(Video視頻) Let me know when it's safe安全.
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(影片)安全之後告訴我。
13:42
(Percussion打擊)
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(打擊樂器)
13:43
[Here's這裡的 the same相同 moment時刻 ...
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【這是同一個時刻
13:46
slowed放緩 down.]
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放慢了速度。】
13:48
(Music音樂)
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(音樂)
13:54
(Guitar吉他)
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(吉他)
14:17
(Singing唱歌) You're right,
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(唱歌)你是對的,
14:20
there's nothing more lovely可愛,
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沒有什麼更美好,
14:24
there's nothing more profound深刻
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沒有什麼更深刻,
14:28
than the certainty肯定,
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和肯定性相比,
14:30
than the certainty肯定
that all of this will end結束
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這一切都會結束的肯定性,
14:39
That all of this will end結束
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這一切都會結束。
14:44
So open打開 your arms武器 to me,
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所以向我展開你的雙手,
14:46
open打開 your arms武器 to me
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向我展開你的雙手,
14:48
And this will be
the one moment時刻 that matters事項,
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這將會是有意義的一刻,
14:51
and this will be
the one thing we remember記得,
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這將會是我們記得的事,
14:55
and this will be
the reason原因 to have been here,
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這將會是一直在這裡的理由,
14:59
and this will be
the one moment時刻 that matters事項 --
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這將會是有意義的一刻…
15:03
Oh ...
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喔…
15:05
(Guitar吉他)
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(吉他)
15:11
(Singing唱歌) So while the mud
reclaims回收 our footprints腳印,
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(唱歌)當泥巴試圖取回我們的足跡,
15:18
and while our bones骨頭 keep looking back
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當我們的骨頭不斷回頭看向
15:22
at the overgrowth過度發育
that's swallowing吞嚥 the path路徑 --
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吞沒小徑的繁茂…
15:25
but for the grace恩典 of God go we,
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但蒙上帝的恩惠,我們走,
15:29
but for the grace恩典 of God go we
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但蒙上帝的恩惠,我們走,
15:33
But for the grace恩典 of time and chance機會
and entropy's熵的 cruel殘忍 hands --
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但蒙時間和機會的恩惠,
以及熵的殘酷雙手…
15:38
So open打開 your arms武器 to me,
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所以向我展開你的雙手,
15:40
open打開 your arms武器 to me
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向我展開你的雙手,
15:42
And this will be
the one moment時刻 that matters事項,
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這將會是有意義的一刻,
15:46
and this will be
the one thing we remember記得,
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這將會是我們記得的事,
15:49
and this will be
the reason原因 to have been here,
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這將會是一直在這裡的理由,
15:53
and this will be
the one moment時刻 that matters事項
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這將會是有意義的一刻。
15:57
Oh ...
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喔…
16:01
So won't慣於 you stay here with me
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所以你不會待在這裡陪我,
16:03
and we'll build建立
'til“直到 we've我們已經 blistered水泡 our hands
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我們會建造,
直到我們的雙手起水泡。
16:09
So won't慣於 you stay here with me
and we'll build建立 us some temples寺廟,
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所以你不會待在這裡陪我,
我們會為我們建造一些神殿,
16:13
build建立 us some castles城堡,
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為我們建造一些城堡,
16:15
build建立 us some monuments紀念碑
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為我們建造一些紀念碑,
16:17
and burn燒傷 them all right down
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然後把它們通通燒毀。
16:20
(Music音樂)
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(音樂)
16:30
(Singing唱歌) So open打開 your arms武器 to me
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(唱歌)所以向我展開你的雙手,
16:34
And this will be
the one moment時刻 that matters事項,
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這將會是有意義的一刻,
16:38
and this will be
the reason原因 to have been here,
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這將會是一直在這裡的理由,
16:42
and this will be
the one thing we remember記得,
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這將會是我們記得的事,
16:46
and this will be
the one moment時刻 that matters事項
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這將會是有意義的一刻,
16:50
So won't慣於 you stay here with me,
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所以你不會待在這裡陪我,
16:52
we'll build建立 'til“直到 we blister起泡 our hands
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我們會建造,
直到我們的雙手起水泡。
16:54
And this will be
the one moment時刻 that matters事項 --
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這將會是有意義的一刻…
16:57
So won't慣於 you stay here with me
and build建立 us some temples寺廟 --
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所以你不會待在這裡陪我,
為我們建造一些神殿…
17:02
This will be the one
moment時刻 that matters事項 --
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這將會是有意義的一刻…
為我們建造一些神殿…
17:06
Build建立 us some temples寺廟 --
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17:07
The one moment時刻 that matters事項 --
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有意義的一刻…
17:09
Build建立 us some monuments紀念碑 --
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為我們建造一些紀念碑…
17:11
The one moment時刻 that matters事項
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有意義的一刻…
17:13
Build建立 us some temples寺廟 --
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為我們建造一些神殿…
17:15
The one moment時刻 that matters事項.
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有意義的一刻。
17:17
Build建立 us some monuments紀念碑 --
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為我們建造一些紀念碑…
17:19
The one moment時刻 that matters事項, oh
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有意義的一刻,喔。
17:21
(Guitar吉他)
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(吉他)
17:26
(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
Translated by Lilian Chiu
Reviewed by Nan-Kun Wu

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
OK Go - Band
A wildly creative band of music- and video-makers, OK Go is building a media empire on the back of endless, boundless ingenuity.

Why you should listen
Singer and video director Damian Kulash, Jr. and bassist Tim Nordwind met at summer camp in 1987, and a decade later they formed OK Go. With Dan Konopka as drummer and Andy Ross as guitarist and resident computer programmer, they've built a unique career at the intersection of music, visual art, technology, and science. They're among an emerging class of artists whose 21st-century brand of experimental creativity dissolves the traditional boundaries between disciplines.

"When our band started, music and art were actually different things," says Kulash. "Musicians made plastic discs and artists made objects for galleries. Now we all make ones and zeros, so the categorical distinctions don’t make much sense anymore."

OK Go have collaborated with dance companies and tech giants, cosmonauts and Muppets, scientists and entrepreneurs. Their videos have been encoded on strands of actual DNA. They've penned New York Times op-eds and testified before the US Congress, and they were President Obama's selection to perform at his 50th birthday party.

OK Go received The Smithsonian American Ingenuity Award for Visual Art, and they've been honored with a Grammy, three MTV Video Music Awards, eleven Cannes Lions, a CLIO, three UK Music Video Awards, two Webby Awards and have had their work presented at The Guggenheim, MoCA, LACMA, The Hirschhorn, The Hammer Museum and Seattle’s Museum of Pop Culture. Their latest video is "The One Moment," directed by Kulash.
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