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Jude Kelly: Why women should tell the stories of humanity
Jude Kelly: Per què les dones haurien d'explicar les històries de la humanitat?
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Els genis creatius aclamats per la crítica han provingut normalment d'una perspectiva masculina, i ha estat així durant segles, i per diversos motius. Jude Kelly, com a directora de teatre, senyala en la seva xerrada passionalment racional com el posicionament pot afectar la nostra interpretació de relats i drets de les dones. Creu que hi ha una manera més útil, més inclusiva de mirar el món, i fa una crida als artistes, per pintar, dibuixar, escriure, filmar i imaginar una societat amb igualtat de gènere.
Jude Kelly - Theater director, producer
Jude Kelly is artistic director of Southbank Centre, Britain’s largest cultural institution. Full bio
Jude Kelly is artistic director of Southbank Centre, Britain’s largest cultural institution. Full bio
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Why do we think
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Per què pensem
00:14
that stories by men are deemed
to be of universal importance,
to be of universal importance,
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que les històries d'homes es consideren
d'importància universal,
d'importància universal,
00:19
and stories by women are thought
to be merely about women?
to be merely about women?
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i les històries de dones es consideren
senzillament de dones?
senzillament de dones?
00:26
My grandmother left school
when she was 12.
when she was 12.
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La meva àvia va deixar l'escola
quan tenia 12 anys.
quan tenia 12 anys.
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She had 14 children.
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Va tenir 14 fills.
00:32
My mother left school when she was 15.
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La meva mare
quan en tenia 15.
quan en tenia 15.
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She was a secretary.
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Va ser secretària.
00:35
I graduated from university
to become a theater director,
to become a theater director,
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Jo em vaig graduar a la universitat
per ser directora de teatre,
per ser directora de teatre,
00:39
and that progress is entirely to do
with the fact that people I'll never meet
with the fact that people I'll never meet
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i aquest progrés està totalment lligat
al fet que gent que mai coneixeré
al fet que gent que mai coneixeré
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fought for women to have rights,
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va lluitar per les dones
i els seus drets,
i els seus drets,
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get the vote, get education,
have progress.
have progress.
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per aconseguir votar,
per aconseguir educació, per progressar.
per aconseguir educació, per progressar.
00:49
And I'm determined to do the same,
and obviously you are, too.
and obviously you are, too.
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I estic decidida a fer el mateix,
i evidentment vosaltres també.
i evidentment vosaltres també.
00:52
Why not?
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Per què no?
00:53
(Applause)
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(Aplaudiments)
00:55
So I started a festival called WOW,
Women of the World, seven years ago,
Women of the World, seven years ago,
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Per això vaig iniciar un festival, el WOW
("Dones del Món"), fa 7 anys,
("Dones del Món"), fa 7 anys,
00:59
and it's now in 20 countries
across five continents.
across five continents.
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i ara es fa a 20 països dels 5 continents.
01:02
And one of those countries
is Somaliland in Africa.
is Somaliland in Africa.
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I un d'aquests països és Somàlia,
a l'Àfrica.
a l'Àfrica.
01:05
So I traveled there last year,
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Vaig viatjar fins allà l'any passat,
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and part of the joy I had in going there
was going to these caves.
was going to these caves.
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i part del plaer d'haver anat fins allà
va ser anar a unes coves.
va ser anar a unes coves.
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The Laas Geel caves.
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Les coves Laas Geel.
01:16
Now, these caves contain some
of the oldest cave paintings in the world.
of the oldest cave paintings in the world.
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En aquestes coves trobem algunes de les
pintures rupestres més antigues del món.
pintures rupestres més antigues del món.
01:22
These paintings are thought to be
round about 9,000 to 11,000 years old.
round about 9,000 to 11,000 years old.
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Es diu que aquestes pintures podrien tenir
entre 9000 i 11000 anys d'antiguitat.
entre 9000 i 11000 anys d'antiguitat.
01:29
Art:
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L'art:
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what humanity has done
ever since it evolved.
ever since it evolved.
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el que la humanitat ha fet
des que va evolucionar.
des que va evolucionar.
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It's how we speak about ourselves,
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És com parlem de nosaltres mateixos,
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how we understand our identity,
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de com entenem la nostra identitat,
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how we look at our surroundings,
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de com mirem el que ens envolta,
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who we find out about each other
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de quant ens coneixem els uns als altres
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because of the meaning of our lives.
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per donar significat a les nostres vides.
01:45
That's what art is for.
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L'art és per a tot això.
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So look at this little picture.
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Mireu aquest petit dibuix.
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I think it's a little girl.
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Jo crec que és una nena.
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I thought it was a bit like me
when I was a little girl.
when I was a little girl.
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Vaig pensar que s'assemblava
una mica a mi quan era petita.
una mica a mi quan era petita.
01:55
And I thought, well, who painted
this joyful, youthful figure?
this joyful, youthful figure?
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I vaig dir-me: "Qui va pintar
aquesta feliç i juvenil figura?".
aquesta feliç i juvenil figura?".
01:59
And I asked the curator of the caves.
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Ho vaig demanar
al conservador de les coves.
al conservador de les coves.
02:01
I said, "Tell me about the men
and women who painted these."
and women who painted these."
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Vaig dir-li: "Parli'm dels homes
i les dones que van pintar això".
i les dones que van pintar això".
02:05
And he looked at me
absolutely askance, and he said,
absolutely askance, and he said,
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Ell em va mirar amb desconfiança,
i va dir:
i va dir:
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"Women didn't paint these pictures."
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"Les dones no van pintar-ho".
02:11
And I said, "Well,
it was 11,000 years ago."
it was 11,000 years ago."
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I vaig respondre: "Bé,
això va ser fa 11000 anys."
això va ser fa 11000 anys."
02:13
I said, "How do you know?"
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Vaig preguntar: "Com ho sap?".
02:15
(Laughter)
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(Rialles)
02:17
And he said, "Women don't do these things.
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I ell va dir:
"Les dones no fan aquestes coses."
"Les dones no fan aquestes coses."
02:21
Men made these marks. Women don't."
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"Els homes van fer aquests dibuixos,
no pas les dones".
no pas les dones".
02:26
Now, I wasn't really surprised,
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Bé, doncs, la resposta
no em va sorprendre gaire
no em va sorprendre gaire
02:30
because that's an attitude
that I've seen continuously
that I've seen continuously
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perquè aquesta és una actitud
que he vist repetidament
que he vist repetidament
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all my life as a theater maker.
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durant tota la meva vida
com a autora de teatre.
com a autora de teatre.
02:38
We are told that divine knowledge
comes down through the masculine,
comes down through the masculine,
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Ens diuen que el coneixement diví
prové de la masculinitat,
prové de la masculinitat,
02:44
whether it be to the imam,
the priest, the rabbi, the holy man.
the priest, the rabbi, the holy man.
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tant si és un imam, un capellà,
un rabí o un sant.
un rabí o un sant.
02:49
Similarly, we're told that creative genius
resides in the masculine,
resides in the masculine,
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I també ens diuen que la genialitat
creativa es troba en el gènere masculí,
creativa es troba en el gènere masculí,
02:54
that it is the masculine
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que és el gènere masculí
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that will be able to tell us
about who we really are,
about who we really are,
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el que ens dirà qui som realment,
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that the masculine will tell
the universal story
the universal story
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que el masculí ens explicarà
la història universal
la història universal
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on behalf of all of us,
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en nom de totes nosaltres,
03:04
whereas women artists will really
just talk about women's experiences,
just talk about women's experiences,
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mentre que les dones artistes només
ens parlaran de les experiències de dones,
ens parlaran de les experiències de dones,
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women's issues
only really relevant to women
only really relevant to women
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d'assumptes femenins
només rellevants per a dones
només rellevants per a dones
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and of passing interest to men --
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de poc interès per als homes,
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and really only some men.
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o només per a alguns homes.
03:17
And it's that conviction,
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I és aquesta convicció,
03:20
that that we are taught,
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tot el que ens ensenyen,
03:21
that I think colors so much
of whether we're prepared to believe
of whether we're prepared to believe
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que crec que influeix
si estem preparats per creure
si estem preparats per creure
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that women's stories really matter.
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que les històries de dones
realment importen.
realment importen.
03:27
And unless we're prepared to believe
that women's stories really matter,
that women's stories really matter,
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I si no estem preparats per creure
que les històries de dones importen,
que les històries de dones importen,
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then women's rights don't really matter,
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que els drets de les dones importen,
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and then change can't really come.
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el canvi no podrà arribar.
03:38
I want to tell you
about two examples of stories
about two examples of stories
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Us vull donar dos exemples d'històries
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that are thought to be
of universal importance:
of universal importance:
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que creiem que són
d'importància universal.
d'importància universal.
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"E.T." and "Hamlet."
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"E.T." i "Hamlet".
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(Laughter)
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(Rialles)
03:52
So I took my two children
when they were little --
when they were little --
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Quan els meus fills eren petits,
la Caroline tenia 8 anys i en Robby, 5,
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Caroline was eight and Robby was five --
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vaig endur-me'ls a veure "E.T."
03:59
to see "E.T."
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04:00
And it's a fantastic story
of this little alien
of this little alien
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És una història fantàstica
sobre aquest petit alienígena
sobre aquest petit alienígena
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who ends up in an American family
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que acaba amb una família americana,
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with a mum, two brothers and a sister,
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amb una mare, dos fills i una filla,
però que vol tornar a casa.
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but he wants to go home.
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04:11
Not only that, but some
really bad scientists
really bad scientists
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No només això, sinó que
alguns científics dolents
alguns científics dolents
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want to do some experiments on him,
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volen fer experiments amb ell,
04:16
and they're looking for him.
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i el busquen.
04:18
So the children have a plot.
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I els nens dissenyen un pla.
04:21
They decide they're going to take him
back to his spaceship
back to his spaceship
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Decideixen portar-lo de nou
a la seva nau tan aviat com puguin,
a la seva nau tan aviat com puguin,
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as soon as they can,
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i el posen a la cistella de la bicicleta
i comencen l'aventura.
i comencen l'aventura.
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and they plop him in a bicycle basket,
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04:27
and off they ride.
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04:28
But unfortunately, the baddies
have found out, and they're catching up
have found out, and they're catching up
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Desafortunadament, els dolents
ho descobreixen i els persegueixen
ho descobreixen i els persegueixen
04:32
and they've got sirens
and they've got their guns,
and they've got their guns,
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i tenen sirenes
i tenen pistoles i tenen megàfons,
i tenen pistoles i tenen megàfons,
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they've got the loud-hailers,
it's terribly frightening,
it's terribly frightening,
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És realment aterridor,
i envolten els nens,
i envolten els nens,
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and they're closing up on the children,
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i els nens no ho aconseguiran.
04:39
and the children are never
going to make it.
going to make it.
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I de sobte, per art de màgia,
les bicicletes s'enlairen al cel,
les bicicletes s'enlairen al cel,
04:41
And then all of a sudden, magically,
the bikes fly up in the air,
the bikes fly up in the air,
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per sobre els núvols,
04:45
over the clouds,
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04:47
over the moon,
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per sobre la lluna,
04:48
and they're going to save "E.T."
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i aconseguiran salvar l'E.T.
04:51
So I turn to see my children's faces,
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I em giro per mirar
les cares dels meus fills,
les cares dels meus fills,
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and Robby is enraptured,
he's there with them, he's saving E.T.,
he's there with them, he's saving E.T.,
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el Robby està captivat,
ell és amb els nens, està salvant l'E.T.,
ell és amb els nens, està salvant l'E.T.,
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he's a happy boy.
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és un nen feliç.
05:00
And I turn to Caroline,
and she's crying her eyes out.
and she's crying her eyes out.
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I em giro cap a la Caroline,
i ella està plorant desconsoladament.
i ella està plorant desconsoladament.
05:03
And I said, "What's the matter?"
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Li vaig preguntar: "Què passa?"
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And she said, "Why can't I save E.T.?
Why can't I come?"
Why can't I come?"
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I va dir: "Per què no puc salvar l'E.T.?
Per què no puc anar-hi?"
Per què no puc anar-hi?"
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And then all of a sudden I realized:
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I tot d'una me'n vaig adonar:
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they weren't children;
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no eren criatures;
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they were boys --
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eren nens,
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all boys.
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tots eren nens.
05:19
And Caroline, who had invested
so much in E.T.,
so much in E.T.,
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I la Caroline, involucrada totalment
en la història de l'E.T.,
en la història de l'E.T.,
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well, she wasn't invited to save him,
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no havia estat convidada a salvar-lo,
05:25
and she felt humiliated and spurned.
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i es va sentir humiliada i rebutjada.
05:28
So I wrote to Steven Spielberg --
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Vaig escriure a l'Steven Spielberg
05:30
(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Rialles) (Aplaudiments)
05:36
and I said, "I don't know
if you understand
if you understand
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i li vaig dir: "No sé si has entès
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the psychological importance
of what's happened,
of what's happened,
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la importància psicològica
del que m'ha passat,
del que m'ha passat,
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and are you prepared to pay
for the therapy bills?"
for the therapy bills?"
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estàs preparat per pagar
les factures de la teràpia?"
les factures de la teràpia?"
05:43
(Laughter)
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(Rialles)
05:45
Twenty years later, I haven't
had a word back from him,
had a word back from him,
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Vint anys després, encara no he rebut
cap resposta d'ell,
cap resposta d'ell,
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but I'm still hopeful.
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però encara tinc esperança.
05:49
(Laughter)
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(Rialles)
05:51
But I thought it was interesting,
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Vaig pensar que era interessant,
05:53
because if you read reviews
of what he intended with E.T.,
of what he intended with E.T.,
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perquè si llegiu les crítiques
del que volia dir amb "E.T.",
del que volia dir amb "E.T.",
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he says very specifically,
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diu molt específicament:
05:57
"I wanted the world to understand
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"Volia que el món entengués
06:00
that we should love
and embrace difference."
and embrace difference."
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que hem d'estimar
i acollir la diferència".
i acollir la diferència".
06:03
But somehow he didn't include
the idea of girls' difference
the idea of girls' difference
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Però d'alguna manera no va incloure
la idea de la diferència femenina
la idea de la diferència femenina
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in this thinking.
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en la seva consideració.
06:09
He thought he was writing a story
about all humanity.
about all humanity.
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Va pensar que estava escrivint
una història per a la humanitat.
una història per a la humanitat.
06:14
Caroline thought he was marginalizing
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La Caroline va pensar que ell marginava
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half of humanity.
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la meitat de la humanitat.
06:17
He thought he was writing a story
about human goodness;
about human goodness;
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Va pensar que escrivia una història
sobre la bondat humana;
sobre la bondat humana;
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she thought he was writing
a lad's heroic adventure.
a lad's heroic adventure.
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ella va pensar que escrivia
una aventura heroica de nens.
una aventura heroica de nens.
06:26
And this is common.
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Això és molt comú.
06:28
Men feel they have been given the mantle
for universal communication,
for universal communication,
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Els homes creuen que se'ls ha donat
la tasca de la comunicació universal,
la tasca de la comunicació universal,
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but of course, how could they be?
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i és clar, com ho fan si no?
06:35
They are writing from male experience
through male's eyes.
through male's eyes.
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Escriuen des de l'experiència masculina,
des dels ulls d'un home.
des dels ulls d'un home.
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We have to have a look at this ourselves.
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Hem de mirar-nos a nosaltres mateixes.
06:44
We have to be prepared to go back
through all our books and our films,
through all our books and our films,
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Hem d'estar preparades per rellegir
tots els nostres llibres i pel·lícules,
tots els nostres llibres i pel·lícules,
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all our favorite things,
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els nostres preferits,
06:49
and say, "Actually, this is written
by a male artist --
by a male artist --
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i dir: "De fet, això està escrit
per un artista home,
per un artista home,
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not an artist.
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no un artista."
06:54
We have to see
that so many of these stories
that so many of these stories
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Hem de veure que
moltes d'aquestes històries
moltes d'aquestes històries
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are written through a male perspective.
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s'escriuen amb una perspectiva masculina.
06:58
Which is fine,
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Que està bé,
07:00
but then females need to have
50 percent of the rights
50 percent of the rights
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però les dones també han de tenir
un 50% dels drets
un 50% dels drets
07:04
for the stage, the film, the novel,
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d'accedir a l'escenari, una pel·lícula,
una novel·la,
una novel·la,
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the place of creativity.
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al seu lloc en la creativitat.
07:09
Let me talk about "Hamlet."
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Deixeu-me parlar sobre "Hamlet".
07:11
To be or not to be.
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Ser o no ser.
07:13
That is the question.
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Aquesta és la qüestió.
07:14
But it's not my question.
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Però no és la meva qüestió.
07:16
My question is: Why was I taught
as a young woman
as a young woman
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La meva pregunta és: "Per què
se'm va ensenyar com a noia
se'm va ensenyar com a noia
07:20
that this was the quintessential
example of human dilemma
example of human dilemma
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que això era la quinta essència
del dilema humà
del dilema humà
07:24
and human experience?
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i de l'experiència humana?
07:26
It's a marvelous story,
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És una història meravellosa,
07:28
but actually, it's about a young man
fearful that he won't be able to make it
fearful that he won't be able to make it
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però tracta d'un jove poruc
que no aconseguirà res
que no aconseguirà res
07:33
as a powerful figure in a male world
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com a figura poderosa en un món d'homes,
07:36
unless he takes revenge
for his father's murder.
for his father's murder.
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si no es venja
de l'assassinat del seu pare.
de l'assassinat del seu pare.
07:39
He talks a great deal to us
about suicide being an option,
about suicide being an option,
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Ens parla moltíssim
del suïcidi com a opció,
del suïcidi com a opció,
07:44
but the reality is that the person
who actually commits suicide, Ophelia,
who actually commits suicide, Ophelia,
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però en realitat,
la persona que se suïcida, Ofèlia,
la persona que se suïcida, Ofèlia,
07:48
after she's been humiliated
and abused by him,
and abused by him,
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després de ser humiliada
i abusada per ell,
i abusada per ell,
07:51
never gets a chance to talk
to the audience about her feelings.
to the audience about her feelings.
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no pot parlar mai al públic
sobre els seus sentiments.
sobre els seus sentiments.
07:54
And then when he's finished with Ophelia,
he turns on his mum,
he turns on his mum,
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I quan ja ha acabat amb Ofèlia,
li toca el rebre a la mare,
li toca el rebre a la mare,
07:57
because basically she has the audacity
to fall in love with his uncle
to fall in love with his uncle
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perquè té l'atreviment
d'enamorar-se de l'oncle de Hamlet
d'enamorar-se de l'oncle de Hamlet
08:00
and enjoy sex.
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i gaudir del sexe.
08:02
(Laughter)
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(Rialles)
08:04
It is a great story,
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És una gran història,
08:06
but it is a story about male conflict,
male dilemma, male struggle.
male dilemma, male struggle.
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però és una història sobre conflictes,
dilemes i lluites masculins.
dilemes i lluites masculins.
08:12
But I was told this was the story
of human beings,
of human beings,
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Però em van dir que
era una història d'éssers humans,
era una història d'éssers humans,
08:16
despite the fact that it only
had two women in it.
had two women in it.
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tot i que només hi apareixen dues dones.
08:19
And unless I reeducate myself,
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Llevat que em reeduqui a mi mateixa,
08:22
I am always going to think
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sempre pensaré
08:23
that women's stories
matter less than men's.
matter less than men's.
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que les històries de dones
importen menys que les d'homes.
importen menys que les d'homes.
Una dona podria haver escrit "Hamlet",
08:28
A woman could have written "Hamlet,"
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08:29
but she would have written it differently,
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però l'hauria escrit de manera diferent,
08:32
and it wouldn't have had
global recognition.
global recognition.
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i no hauria tingut
el reconeixement global.
el reconeixement global.
08:34
As the writer Margaret Atwood says,
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Com va dir
l'escriptora Margaret Atwood,
l'escriptora Margaret Atwood,
08:36
"When a man writes about doing the dishes,
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"Quan un home escriu
sobre rentar els plats,
sobre rentar els plats,
08:39
it's realism.
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és realisme.
08:41
When a woman writes about doing it,
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Quan una dona escriu sobre el mateix,
08:43
it's an unfortunate genetic disposition."
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és una desafortunada disposició genètica".
08:46
(Laughter)
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(Rialles)
08:47
Now, this is not just something
that belongs to then.
that belongs to then.
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Ara bé, això no és una cosa
que sigui del passat.
que sigui del passat.
08:51
I mean, when I was a young girl,
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Quan jo era jove
08:52
wanting desperately
to be a theater director,
to be a theater director,
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desitjava ser directora de teatre,
08:55
this is what my male lecturer said to me:
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i això és el que em va dir un professor:
08:58
"Well, there are three women
directors in Britain," he said, "Jude."
directors in Britain," he said, "Jude."
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"Mira, hi ha tres directores dones
al Regne Unit, Jude".
al Regne Unit, Jude".
09:02
"There's Joan Knight, who's a lesbian,
there's Joan Littlewood, who's retired,
there's Joan Littlewood, who's retired,
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"Hi ha la Joan Knight, lesbiana,
la Joan Littlewood, ja jubilada,
la Joan Littlewood, ja jubilada,
09:06
and there's Buzz Goodbody,
who's just killed herself.
who's just killed herself.
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i la Buzz Goodbody,
que acaba de suïcidar-se.
que acaba de suïcidar-se.
09:09
So, which of those three
would you like to be?"
would you like to be?"
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Com quina d'elles t'agradaria ser?"
09:11
(Laughter)
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(Rialles)
09:12
Now, leaving aside
the disgusting slur on gay women,
the disgusting slur on gay women,
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Deixant a banda l'insult de mal gust
sobre les lesbianes,
sobre les lesbianes,
09:17
the fact is, he wanted to humiliate me.
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el fet és que ell volia humiliar-me.
09:20
He thought it was silly
that I wanted to be a director.
that I wanted to be a director.
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Va pensar que era estúpid
que jo volgués ser directora.
que jo volgués ser directora.
Vaig dir-ho a la meva amiga Marin Aslop,
directora d'orquestra,
directora d'orquestra,
09:24
And I told my friend Marin Alsop,
the conductor, and she said,
the conductor, and she said,
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i em va dir: "El meu professor de música
va dir exactament el mateix.
va dir exactament el mateix.
09:27
"Oh yes, well, my music teacher
said exactly the same.
said exactly the same.
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09:29
He said, 'Women don't conduct.'"
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Va dir-me: 'Les dones no dirigeixen'".
09:32
But all these years later,
we've made our mark.
we've made our mark.
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Uns quants anys més tard,
ho hem aconseguit.
ho hem aconseguit.
09:35
You think, "Well, it'll be different now."
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Potser penseu: "Bé, ara serà diferent".
09:37
I'm afraid it's not different now.
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Em sap greu, però no ho crec.
09:40
The current head
of the Paris Conservatoire
of the Paris Conservatoire
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L'actual director
del Conservatori de París
del Conservatori de París
09:43
said recently, "It takes
great physical strength
great physical strength
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ha dit recentment:
"Demana una gran força física
"Demana una gran força física
09:47
to conduct a symphony,
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dirigir una simfonia,
09:48
and women are too weak."
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i les dones són massa febles".
09:50
(Laughter)
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(Rialles)
09:51
The artist George Baselitz said,
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L'artista George Baselitz va dir:
09:53
"Well, the fact is women can't paint.
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"És un fet que les dones no poden pintar.
09:55
Well -- they can't paint very well."
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Bé, no poden pintar gaire bé".
09:58
The writer V.S. Naipaul
said two years ago,
said two years ago,
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L'escriptor V. S. Naipaul
va dir fa dos anys:
va dir fa dos anys:
10:00
"I can read two paragraphs and know
immediately if it's written by a woman,
immediately if it's written by a woman,
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"Puc llegir dos paràgrafs i saber
immediatament si ho ha escrit una dona,
immediatament si ho ha escrit una dona,
10:04
and I just stop reading,
because it's not worthy of me."
because it's not worthy of me."
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i parar de llegir
perquè no val la pena per a mi.
perquè no val la pena per a mi.
10:06
Audience: Whoa!
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Públic: "Ohhhh!"
10:09
And it goes on.
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I podríem continuar...
10:12
We have to find a way
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Hem de trobar la manera
10:15
of stopping young girls and women
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que noies i dones deixin de pensar
que les seves històries no importen
que les seves històries no importen
10:17
feeling not only that
their story doesn't matter,
their story doesn't matter,
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10:20
but they're not allowed
to be the storyteller.
to be the storyteller.
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i que no tenen permís
per explicar històries.
per explicar històries.
10:24
Because once you feel
that you can't stand in the central space
that you can't stand in the central space
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Perquè quan sents
que no pertanys a l'espai central
que no pertanys a l'espai central
10:28
and speak on behalf of the world,
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i que no pots parlar de part del món,
10:31
you will feel that you can offer
your goods up to a small, select group.
your goods up to a small, select group.
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llavors sents que el que pots oferir
només va a un petit i selecte grup.
només va a un petit i selecte grup.
10:36
You will tend to do smaller work
on smaller stages,
on smaller stages,
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I intentaràs fer petites obres
en petits escenaris,
en petits escenaris,
10:39
your economic power will be less,
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el poder econòmic serà més baix,
10:41
your reach of audiences will be less,
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l'impacte al públic serà més baix,
10:44
and your credit will be less as an artist.
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i el reconeixement serà menys
com a artista.
com a artista.
10:49
And we do finally give artists
these incredible, prominent spaces
these incredible, prominent spaces
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I nosaltres donem als artistes
aquests espais increïbles i importants
aquests espais increïbles i importants
10:54
in the world,
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perquè són els nostres narradors.
10:56
because they are our storytellers.
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10:57
Now, why should it matter to you
if you're not an artist?
if you're not an artist?
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Però què us pot interessar això
si no sou artistes?
si no sou artistes?
11:00
Supposing you're an accountant
or an entrepreneur or a medic
or an entrepreneur or a medic
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Suposeu que sou comptables
o empresàries o metgesses
o empresàries o metgesses
11:04
or a scientist:
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o científiques:
11:05
Should you care about women artists?
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Us haurien d'importar
les artistes femenines?
les artistes femenines?
11:08
Absolutely, you must,
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Sí, sense dubte,
11:10
because as you can see
from the cave paintings,
from the cave paintings,
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perquè tal com podeu veure
des d'aquelles pintures a la cova
des d'aquelles pintures a la cova
11:13
all civilizations,
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totes les civilitzacions,
11:15
all of humanity
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tota la humanitat
11:18
have relied upon artists
to tell the human story,
to tell the human story,
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ha confiat en els artistes
per explicar la història de l'home,
per explicar la història de l'home,
11:22
and if the human story
is finally told by men,
is finally told by men,
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i si la història de la humanitat
és explicada per homes,
és explicada per homes,
11:25
take my word for it,
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escolteu-me bé,
11:27
it will be about men.
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serà sobre homes.
11:29
So let's make a change.
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Canviem-ho.
11:32
Let's make a change
to all our institutions,
to all our institutions,
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Canviem-ho en totes les institucions,
11:34
and not just in the West.
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No només a Occident.
11:35
Don't forget -- this message
of incapability of women
of incapability of women
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No ho oblideu, aquest missatge
sobre la incapacitat de les dones
sobre la incapacitat de les dones
11:40
to hold creative genius
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per ser genis creatius
11:42
is being told to girls and women
in Nigeria, in China, in Russia,
in Nigeria, in China, in Russia,
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s'ha dit a noies i dones a Nigèria,
a la Xina, a Rússia i a Indonèsia.
a la Xina, a Rússia i a Indonèsia.
11:47
in Indonesia.
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11:48
All over the world, girls
and women are being told
and women are being told
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A tot el món,
es diu a noies i a dones
es diu a noies i a dones
11:51
that they can't finally hold the idea
of creative inspiration.
of creative inspiration.
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que no estan capacitades
per a la inspiració creativa.
per a la inspiració creativa.
11:57
And I want to ask you:
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I jo us vull preguntar:
11:58
Do you believe that?
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Us ho creieu?
12:00
Do you believe that women
can be a creative genius?
can be a creative genius?
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Creieu que les dones
no poden ser genis creatius?
no poden ser genis creatius?
12:05
(Applause and cheers)
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(Aplaudiments i ovacions)
12:10
Well then, please go forward,
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Vinga doncs, tirem endavant,
12:12
support women artists,
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donem suport a dones artistes,
12:14
buy their work,
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comprem el seu art,
12:16
insist that their voices are heard,
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insistim que la seva veu sigui escoltada,
12:18
find platforms on which
their voices will be made.
their voices will be made.
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cerquem plataformes en les quals
les seves veus puguin crear-se.
les seves veus puguin crear-se.
12:22
And remember this:
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I recordeu això:
12:24
that in a sense, if we're going
to get past this moment
to get past this moment
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d'alguna manera,
si hem de superar aquest moment
si hem de superar aquest moment
12:27
of a world where we know
that we are unequal,
that we are unequal,
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en el qual sabem que el món és desigual,
12:31
it's artists who have to imagine
a different world.
a different world.
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són els artistes
els que han d'imaginar un món diferent.
els que han d'imaginar un món diferent.
12:34
And I'm calling on all artists,
women and men,
women and men,
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Faig una crida als artistes,
dones i homes,
dones i homes,
12:38
to imagine a gender-equal world.
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a imaginar un món amb igualtat de gènere.
12:42
Let's paint it. Let's draw it.
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Pintem-lo. Dibuixem-lo.
12:44
Let's write about it. Let's film it.
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Escrivim sobre aquest món.
Gravem-lo.
Gravem-lo.
12:46
And if we could imagine it,
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I si el podem imaginar,
12:48
then we would have the energy
and the stamina
and the stamina
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llavors tindrem l'energia
i la resistència
i la resistència
12:51
to work towards it.
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per lluitar i aconseguir-lo.
12:53
When I see this little girl,
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Quan veig aquesta nena,
12:55
11,000 years ago,
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de fa 11000 anys,
12:57
I want to know that the little girl now
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vull saber que aquesta nena
13:01
can stand there and think
she's entitled to her dreams,
she's entitled to her dreams,
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ara pot estar aquí i pensar que
té dret a realitzar els seus somnis,
té dret a realitzar els seus somnis,
13:04
she's entitled to her destiny
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que té dret al seu destí
13:07
and she's entitled to speak
on behalf of the whole world,
on behalf of the whole world,
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i que té dret a parlar
en nom del món sencer,
en nom del món sencer,
13:11
be recognized for it
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i ser reconeguda per això
13:13
and applauded.
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i aplaudida.
13:14
Thank you.
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Moltes gràcies.
13:16
(Applause)
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(Aplaudiments)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jude Kelly - Theater director, producerJude Kelly is artistic director of Southbank Centre, Britain’s largest cultural institution.
Why you should listen
Jude Kelly was appointed artistic director of Southbank Centre, Britain's largest cultural institution, in 2006.
She founded Solent People's Theatre and Battersea Arts Centre, and was the founding director of the West Yorkshire Playhouse. In 1997, she was awarded an OBE for her services to theatre, and in 2015 she was made a CBE in the New Year honours for services to the Arts. She has directed over 100 productions from the Royal Shakespeare Company to the Châtalet in Paris.
In 2002, Kelly founded Metal, a platform where artistic hunches can be pursued in community contexts, with bases in Liverpool, Southend-On-Sea and Peterborough. She led the cultural team for the successful London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic bid and then served on the Board of the cultural Olympiad. She is a regular broadcaster and commentator on a range of issues relating to society, art and education.
Kelly created the WOW – Women of the World Festival in 2011. In 2011 she created the WOW: Women of the World Festival, now heading into its 7th year at Southbank Centre as well as in other parts of the UK and in countries all over the world.
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