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Tracie Keesee: How police and the public can create safer neighborhoods together
Trejsi Kisi (Tracie Keesee): Kako policija i zajednica udruženi mogu stvoriti bezbedniji komšiluk
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„Svi želimo biti bezbedni, ali je naša bezbednost komplikovana“, kaže Trejsi Kisi, suosnivač Centra za jednakost u radu policije. Trejsi iznosi lekcije iz svog iskustva od 25 godina rada kao policijski službenik i osvrće se na izazove u javnoj bezbednosti sa kojima su policija i okruženje suočeni, posebno u afroameričkim zajednicama. Takođe govori o mogućnostima koje svi imamo u očuvanju dostojanstva i obezbeđivanju pravde. „Moramo zajedno ići napred. Ne postoji više 'mi protiv njih'“, kaže Kisi.
Tracie Keesee - Law enforcement professional
Dr. Tracie Keesee is committed to making the New York Police Department the most diverse and inclusive police department in the world. Full bio
Dr. Tracie Keesee is committed to making the New York Police Department the most diverse and inclusive police department in the world. Full bio
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00:12
You know, my friends,
I look at this photograph
I look at this photograph
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Prijatelji, posmatram ovu fotografiju
00:16
and I have to ask myself,
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i ne mogu da se ne zapitam
00:18
you know, I think I've seen this
somewhere before.
somewhere before.
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nisam li negde već videla ovo.
00:21
People marching in the street for justice.
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Ljudi na ulicama marširaju za pravdu.
00:24
But I know it's not the same photograph
that I would have seen,
that I would have seen,
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Ali znam da to nije ona fotografija
koju sam ja videla,
koju sam ja videla,
00:28
because I wouldn't take my oath
to be a police officer until 1989.
to be a police officer until 1989.
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jer sam tek 1989. godine položila zakletvu
za policijskog službenika.
za policijskog službenika.
00:33
And I've been in the business
for over 25 years.
for over 25 years.
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Bavim se ovim poslom više od 25 godina.
00:36
And identifying
as an African-American woman,
as an African-American woman,
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S obzirom na to da sam Afroamerikanka,
00:39
I know things have gotten better.
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znam da su stvari pošle nabolje.
00:41
But even as I learned about public safety,
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Ali dok sam učila o javnoj bezbednosti,
00:43
I wondered if what
I was doing on the street
I was doing on the street
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pitala bih se da li je ono
što radim na ulici
što radim na ulici
00:46
was hurting or harming the community.
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povređivalo nekoga ili štetilo zajednici.
00:49
And I often wondered if, you know,
how did they perceive me,
how did they perceive me,
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Često sam se pitala
kako me ljudi doživljavaju,
kako me ljudi doživljavaju,
00:53
this woman in uniform?
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tu ženu u uniformi?
00:56
But there is one thing that I knew.
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Ali znala sam jednu stvar.
00:57
I knew there was a way that we could
do this, probably, different or better.
do this, probably, different or better.
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Znala sam da verovatno postoji način
da ovo uradimo drugačije ili bolje.
da ovo uradimo drugačije ili bolje.
01:01
A way that preserved dignity
and guaranteed justice.
and guaranteed justice.
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Način koji će sačuvati dostojanstvo
i koji će garantovati pravdu.
i koji će garantovati pravdu.
01:06
But I also knew that police
could not do it alone.
could not do it alone.
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Ali sam isto tako znala
da policija ovo ne može uraditi sama.
da policija ovo ne može uraditi sama.
01:11
It's the coproduction of public safety.
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Već preko koprodukcije
u javnoj bezbednosti.
u javnoj bezbednosti.
01:15
There is a lot of history with us.
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Nosimo mnogo istorije u sebi.
01:18
You know, we know loss.
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Poznato nam je kako je izgubiti nekog.
01:26
The relationship between
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Veza između afroameričke zajednice
i policije je bolna.
i policije je bolna.
01:27
the African American community
and the police is a painful one.
and the police is a painful one.
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01:32
Often filled with mistrust.
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Često ispunjena nepoverenjem.
01:34
It has been studied by social scientists,
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Njome se bave društveni naučnici,
01:37
it has been studied by government,
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izučava je vlada,
01:41
all both promising, you know,
hopeful new ways and long-term fixes.
hopeful new ways and long-term fixes.
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i svi obećavaju nova, dugoročna rešenja.
01:46
But all we want is to be safe.
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Ali sve što mi želimo
je da budemo bezbedni.
je da budemo bezbedni.
01:48
And our safety is intertwined.
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A naša bezbednost je komplikovana stvar.
01:51
And that we know,
in order to have great relationships
in order to have great relationships
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Znamo da, ukoliko želimo
da održavamo sjajne veze
da održavamo sjajne veze
01:54
and relationships built on trust,
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koje su izgrađene na poverenju,
01:56
that we're going to have
to have communication.
to have communication.
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moramo da komuniciramo.
01:59
And in this advent and this text
of the world that we've got going on,
of the world that we've got going on,
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U današnjim prilikama
i svetu tekstova koji je prisutan,
i svetu tekstova koji je prisutan,
pokušavajući da to uradimo
preko društvenih mreža
preko društvenih mreža
02:05
trying to do this with social media,
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02:07
it's a very difficult thing to do.
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veoma je teško to postići.
02:10
We also have to examine
our current policing practices,
our current policing practices,
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Takođe moramo ispitati
trenutne običaje policije
trenutne običaje policije
02:13
and we have to set those things aside
that no longer serve us.
that no longer serve us.
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i moramo odbaciti sve stvari
koje nam više ničemu ne služe.
koje nam više ničemu ne služe.
02:16
So, in New York, that meant
"stop, question and frisk."
"stop, question and frisk."
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U Njujorku, to bi značilo
„zaustavi, ispitaj, pretresi“.
„zaustavi, ispitaj, pretresi“.
02:19
That meant really holding up
the numbers as opposed to relationships.
the numbers as opposed to relationships.
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To je značilo davati prednost brojevima
nad uspostavljanjem veza.
nad uspostavljanjem veza.
02:25
And it really didn't allow
the officers the opportunity
the officers the opportunity
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I to nije pružilo priliku policajcima
02:28
to get to know the community
in which they serve.
in which they serve.
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da upoznaju zajednicu u kojoj rade.
02:32
But you see, there is a better way.
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Ali vidite, postoji bolji način.
02:35
And we know -- it's called coproduction.
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A zove se koprodukcija.
02:39
So in the 1970s, Elinor Ostrom
came up with this theory,
came up with this theory,
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Dakle, 1970-ih godina,
Elinor Ostrom je osnovala teoriju
Elinor Ostrom je osnovala teoriju
02:43
really called coproduction,
and this is how it works.
and this is how it works.
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koja se naziva koprodukcija,
a evo kako funkcioniše.
a evo kako funkcioniše.
02:46
You bring people into the space
that come with separate expertise,
that come with separate expertise,
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Dovedete ljude različitih stručnosti
na određeni prostor,
na određeni prostor,
02:50
and you also come with new ideas
and lived experience,
and lived experience,
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dođete do novih ideja i iskustava
02:54
and you produce a new knowledge.
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i stvarate novo znanje.
02:57
And when you produce that new knowledge,
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Kada stvorite to novo znanje
02:59
and you apply this theory
to public safety,
to public safety,
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i primenite ovu teoriju
na javnu bezbednost,
na javnu bezbednost,
03:02
you produce a new type of public safety.
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stvarate novu vrstu javne bezbednosti.
03:05
And so, in New York, it feels like this.
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U Njujorku, to izgleda ovako.
03:10
It is called building relationships,
literally one block at a time.
literally one block at a time.
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Zove se stvaranje veza,
bukvalno jedno po jedno naselje.
bukvalno jedno po jedno naselje.
03:16
And it's "Build the Block."
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I zove se „Izgradite naselje“.
03:17
So this is how it works.
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Evo kako funkcioniše.
03:19
You go to buildtheblock.nyc,
you put in your address.
you put in your address.
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Odete na buildtheblock.nyc,
unesete svoju adresu.
unesete svoju adresu.
03:23
And up pops location, date and time
of your neighborhood meeting.
of your neighborhood meeting.
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Pojavljuje se mesto, datum i vreme
sastanka u vašem komšiluku.
sastanka u vašem komšiluku.
03:29
The important part of this
is you've got to go to the meeting.
is you've got to go to the meeting.
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Važno je da morate otići na sastanak.
03:32
And once you go to that meeting,
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I kada budete otišli,
03:34
there, of course, will be NYPD,
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tamo će, naravno, biti policije,
03:37
along with officers
and other community members.
and other community members.
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zajedno sa službenicima
i drugim članovima zajednice.
i drugim članovima zajednice.
03:41
What's important about bringing, now,
the lived experience into this space
the lived experience into this space
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Važna stvar u vezi sa iznošenjem
svog iskustva na ovom sastanku
svog iskustva na ovom sastanku
03:44
to produce new knowledge
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kako bi se stvorilo novo znanje
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is that we have to have
a new way of delivering it.
a new way of delivering it.
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je da moramo da ga prenesemo
na inovativan način.
na inovativan način.
03:49
So the new way of delivering it
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Novi način da ga prenesemo
03:50
is through what we call neighborhood
coordinating officers, or NCOs.
coordinating officers, or NCOs.
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je kroz koordinisane policajce
u naselju, odnosno podoficire.
u naselju, odnosno podoficire.
03:55
And so, also in this meeting are the NCOs,
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Oni su takođe prisutni na sastanku,
03:58
the what we call 911 response cars,
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ono što nazivamo kolima hitne pomoći,
04:01
sector cars, detectives,
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vozila iz sektora, detektivi,
04:04
all of us working together
to collaborate in this new way
to collaborate in this new way
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svi mi radimo zajedno
kako bismo sarađivali na novi način
kako bismo sarađivali na novi način
04:07
to reduce crime.
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da bismo smanjili stopu zločina.
04:10
And what's interesting about this
is that we know that it works.
is that we know that it works.
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Zanimljivo je što znamo
da ovo funkcioniše.
da ovo funkcioniše.
04:14
So, for example, in Washington Heights.
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Na primer, u Vašington Hajtsu.
Na jednom sastanku zajednice,
pošto je postojao bar u Vašington Hajtsu,
pošto je postojao bar u Vašington Hajtsu,
04:17
At a community meeting, there was a bar,
up in Washington Heights,
up in Washington Heights,
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04:20
and the neighbors were complaining
about outcry and noises.
about outcry and noises.
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komšije su se žalile zbog vikanja i buke.
04:23
So in their conversations with their NCO,
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Dakle, u razgovorima
sa svojim podoficirom,
sa svojim podoficirom,
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they talked about, you know,
sound barriers,
sound barriers,
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pričali su o zvučnoj izolaciji
04:28
different ways to sort of approach this.
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i različitim načima da se ovo reši.
04:31
Is there a different way
we can direct traffic?
we can direct traffic?
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Možemo li drugačije usmeravati saobraćaj?
04:33
And of course now they have
relatively quieter bar nights.
relatively quieter bar nights.
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I sada su, naravno,
noći u baru relativno tiše.
noći u baru relativno tiše.
04:37
So, another issue that always
comes up in neighborhoods is speeding.
comes up in neighborhoods is speeding.
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Dakle, još jedna poteškoća
u naseljima je brza vožnja.
u naseljima je brza vožnja.
04:41
How many of you in here
have ever had a speeding ticket?
have ever had a speeding ticket?
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Koliko je vas dobilo kaznu
za prekoračenje brzine?
za prekoračenje brzine?
04:44
Raise your hand.
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Podignite ruku.
04:45
Oh, higher, come on!
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Hajde, više!
04:46
There's more than that, this is New York.
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Ima vas više, ovo je Njujork!
04:48
So those are other issues
that brought to the NCO.
that brought to the NCO.
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To su drugi problemi
koje izlažemo podoficirima.
koje izlažemo podoficirima.
04:51
Speeding -- what the NCOs do
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Što se tiče prekoračenja brzine,
04:53
is they collaborate
with the Department of Transportation,
with the Department of Transportation,
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podoficiri sarađuju
sa Ministarstvom saobraćaja,
sa Ministarstvom saobraćaja,
04:56
they look at issues such as speed bumps
and signage and all types of things.
and signage and all types of things.
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bave se problemom ležećih policajaca,
signalizacije i drugim pitanjima.
signalizacije i drugim pitanjima.
05:00
And when we come together to create
this different type of policing,
this different type of policing,
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Kada se skupimo kako bismo stvorili
ovaj novi način rada policije,
ovaj novi način rada policije,
05:04
it also feels different.
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osećamo se drugačije.
05:07
The coproduction
of public safety also means
of public safety also means
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Koprodukcija javne bezbednosti
takođe podrazumeva
takođe podrazumeva
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that officers need to understand
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da policajci moraju razumeti
05:12
the history and the power
of their uniforms.
of their uniforms.
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istoriju i moć svojih uniformi.
05:15
They're going to have to set aside
old historical narratives
old historical narratives
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Moraće ostaviti po strani
priče iz prošlih vremena
priče iz prošlih vremena
05:18
that do not serve them well.
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koje ničemu ne služe.
05:20
And that means they have to learn
about implicit bias.
about implicit bias.
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To znači da moraju da se upoznaju
sa implicitnom pristrasnošću.
sa implicitnom pristrasnošću.
05:23
Implicit biases are shortcuts
the brain makes
the brain makes
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To su prečice koje mozak pravi
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without us really knowing it.
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bez našeg znanja.
05:27
They're stereotypes
that often influence our decision making.
that often influence our decision making.
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To su stereotipi
koji utiču na naše odluke.
koji utiču na naše odluke.
05:32
And so, you can imagine,
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Možete da pretpostavite
05:33
for police officers who have to make
split-second decisions
split-second decisions
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da kod policajaca koji moraju
doneti odluku u trenutku
doneti odluku u trenutku
05:37
can be a very detrimental
decision-making point.
decision-making point.
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ovo može biti štetno pri donošenju odluke.
05:41
That's why the NYPD, along with other
departments throughout the United States,
departments throughout the United States,
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Zbog toga njujorška policija,
kao i druge policijske službe u SAD-u,
kao i druge policijske službe u SAD-u,
05:45
are training all of their officers
in implicit bias.
in implicit bias.
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obučava sve svoje policajce
o implicitnoj pristrasnosti.
o implicitnoj pristrasnosti.
05:49
They have to understand
that learning about their implicit biases,
that learning about their implicit biases,
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Moraju da shvate da upoznavanje
njihovih pristrasnosti,
njihovih pristrasnosti,
05:54
having good training, tactics
and deescalation
and deescalation
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dobra obuka, taktika i deeskalacija,
05:58
and understanding how it impacts
your decision making
your decision making
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kao i svesnost o tome
kako utiču na donošenje odluka,
kako utiču na donošenje odluka,
06:01
makes us all safer.
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čine sve nas bezbednijim.
06:04
We also know how officers
are treated inside the organization
are treated inside the organization
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Znamo i da način na koji se ophodi
prema policajcima unutar organizacije
prema policajcima unutar organizacije
06:08
impacts how they're going to behave
with the community at large.
with the community at large.
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ima uticaj na to kako će se oni
ponašati prema zajednici.
ponašati prema zajednici.
06:12
This is critical.
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Ovo je od ključnog značaja.
06:13
Especially if you want to have
a new way forward.
a new way forward.
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Posebno ukoliko želite
da krenete novim putem.
da krenete novim putem.
06:17
And we know that we have to care
for those folks that are on the frontline.
for those folks that are on the frontline.
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Znamo da se moramo brinuti
o tim ljudima na prvoj liniji fronta.
o tim ljudima na prvoj liniji fronta.
06:21
And they have to recognize
their own trauma.
their own trauma.
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Oni moraju prepoznati svoje traume.
06:24
And in order to do that,
us as leaders have to lift them up
us as leaders have to lift them up
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Kako bi to uradili,
kao vođe ih moramo ohrabriti
kao vođe ih moramo ohrabriti
06:28
and let them know that the narratives
of being strong men and women --
of being strong men and women --
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i ukazati im da priče
o jakim muškarcima i ženama
o jakim muškarcima i ženama
06:32
you can set those aside,
and it's OK to say you need help.
and it's OK to say you need help.
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mogu ostaviti po strani,
i da je u redu reći da vam treba pomoć.
i da je u redu reći da vam treba pomoć.
06:35
And we do that by providing peer support,
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To činimo kroz pružanje
kolegijalne podrške,
kolegijalne podrške,
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employee assistance,
mental health services.
mental health services.
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pomoći zaposlenima,
kao i kroz službe za mentalno zdravlje.
kao i kroz službe za mentalno zdravlje.
06:41
We make sure all
of those things are in place,
of those things are in place,
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Staramo se da su sve te stvari
na raspolaganju,
na raspolaganju,
06:43
because without it --
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jer bez njih -
06:44
it's a critical component
to the coproduction of public safety.
to the coproduction of public safety.
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to je ključni deo
koprodukcije javne bezbednosti.
koprodukcije javne bezbednosti.
06:49
Equally as important
is that we also have social issues
is that we also have social issues
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Od jednake važnosti je
i to da imamo i društvenih problema
i to da imamo i društvenih problema
06:52
that are often laid at the feet
of law enforcement.
of law enforcement.
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koji se često prebacuju
na službe sprovođenja zakona.
na službe sprovođenja zakona.
06:55
So, for example,
mental health and education.
mental health and education.
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Na primer, mentalno zdravlje
i obrazovanje.
i obrazovanje.
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Historically, we've been
pulled into those spaces
pulled into those spaces
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Kroz istoriju su nas gurali
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where we have not necessarily
provided public safety
provided public safety
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tamo gde nismo nužno obezbedili
javnu bezbednost,
javnu bezbednost,
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but have enforced long, historical
legislative racial desegregation.
legislative racial desegregation.
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već je sprovođena duga istorijska
zakonodavna rasna desegregacija.
zakonodavna rasna desegregacija.
07:13
We have to own our part in history.
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Moramo da prihvatimo svoj deo u istoriji.
07:16
But we also have to have
those folks at the table
those folks at the table
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Ali takođe moramo uključiti i te ljude
07:19
when we're talking about
how do we move forward with coproduction.
how do we move forward with coproduction.
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kada govorimo o planovima
kako krenuti napred sa koprodukcijom.
kako krenuti napred sa koprodukcijom.
07:24
But understanding this,
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Ali kada shvatimo ovo,
07:25
we also have to understand
that we need to have voices come to us
that we need to have voices come to us
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moramo i da razumemo
da je potrebno čuti različita mišljenja
da je potrebno čuti različita mišljenja
07:30
in a different way.
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sa različitih strana.
07:32
We also have to recognize
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Takođe moramo priznati
07:34
that the community
may not be willing or ready
may not be willing or ready
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da zajednica možda nije voljna ili spremna
07:37
to come to the table
to have the conversation.
to have the conversation.
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da sedne za sto i krene sa razgovorom.
07:40
And that's OK.
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I to je u redu.
07:42
We have to be able to accept that.
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Moramo biti u stanju da to prihvatimo.
07:45
By acknowledging it, it also means
that we care for the community's health
that we care for the community's health
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Priznajući to, mi brinemo
o zdravlju zajednice,
o zdravlju zajednice,
07:48
and for their resiliency as well.
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kao i o njenoj otpornosti.
07:50
That's another key component.
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To je još jedna ključna komponenta.
07:53
We also have to acknowledge
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Takođe moramo priznati
07:55
that there are those folks
that are in our community that are here --
that are in our community that are here --
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da u našoj zajednici postoje ljudi
07:58
they do want to do us harm.
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koji žele da nam nanesu zlo.
08:00
We also have to recognize
that we have community members
that we have community members
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Takođe moramo prepoznati
da imamo članove zajednice
da imamo članove zajednice
08:03
who did not get the benefits
of a long-ago dream.
of a long-ago dream.
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koji nisu dobili povoljnosti
iz davno sanjanog sna.
iz davno sanjanog sna.
08:09
We also have to acknowledge
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Takođe moramo priznati
08:10
that we have put faith in a system
that sometimes is broken,
that sometimes is broken,
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da smo položili nade u sistem
koji nekada ne funkcioniše,
koji nekada ne funkcioniše,
08:14
hoping that it would give us
solutions for better.
solutions for better.
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nadajući se da će nam dati
rešenja za bolje sutra.
rešenja za bolje sutra.
08:18
But we cannot walk away.
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Ali ne možemo pobeći.
08:21
Because there is a better way.
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Jer postoji bolji način.
08:24
And we know this because the NYPD's
neighborhood policing philosophy
neighborhood policing philosophy
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To znamo jer je filozofija
održavanja reda njujorške policije
održavanja reda njujorške policije
08:29
is grounded in the coproduction
of public safety.
of public safety.
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zasnovana u koprodukciji
javne bezbednosti.
javne bezbednosti.
08:33
And in order for us
to move forward together,
to move forward together,
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Kako bismo zajedno nastavili napred,
08:36
with our family, our friends
and for our health,
and for our health,
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sa svojim porodicama, prijateljima
i zarad svog zdravlja,
i zarad svog zdravlja,
08:39
we have to make sure
that we focus this way.
that we focus this way.
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moramo se pobrinuti
da se fokusiramo u ovom pravcu.
da se fokusiramo u ovom pravcu.
08:43
And in order to do that,
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A kako bismo to uradili,
08:45
there are three fundamental ideologies
that we must all agree to.
that we must all agree to.
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moramo se slagati
oko tri osnovne ideologije.
oko tri osnovne ideologije.
08:49
Are you ready?
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Da li ste spremni?
Izvinite, još jednom - da li ste spremni?
08:51
Oh, I'm sorry, one more time --
are you ready?
are you ready?
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Publika: Da!
08:53
Audience: Yes!
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Trejsi Kisi: Tako je već bolje.
08:55
Tracie Keesee:
Now, that's better, alright.
Now, that's better, alright.
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08:57
The first one: There's no more
wallowing in the why.
wallowing in the why.
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Pod jedan: nema više prenemaganja
oko toga zašto su stvari takve.
oko toga zašto su stvari takve.
09:00
We know why.
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Znamo zašto.
09:04
We must move forward together.
There's no more us versus them.
There's no more us versus them.
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Moramo da produžimo dalje.
Nema više „mi protiv njih“.
Nema više „mi protiv njih“.
09:08
Number two:
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Pod dva:
09:10
We must embrace the lived experience
and our histories,
and our histories,
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moramo se voditi iskustvom i istorijom,
09:15
and we must make sure we never go back
to a place where we cannot move forward.
to a place where we cannot move forward.
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i moramo se postarati da se nikada
ne vratimo na mesto odakle nema napretka.
ne vratimo na mesto odakle nema napretka.
09:21
And number three:
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I pod tri:
09:23
We must also make sure
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moramo se uveriti
09:26
that truth and telling facts is painful.
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da su istina i iznošenje činjenica bolni.
09:32
But we also know that no action
is no longer acceptable.
is no longer acceptable.
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Takođe znamo da više ne možemo
sedeti skrštenih ruku.
sedeti skrštenih ruku.
09:37
And agree?
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Da li se slažete?
Publika: Da!
09:38
Audience: Yes.
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TK: Ne mogu da čujem, slažete li se?
09:40
TK: Oh, I'm sorry, I can't hear you,
do you agree?
do you agree?
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Publika: Da!
09:42
Audience: Yes!
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TK: Dakle, znamo da postoji bolji način.
09:43
TK: So we do know there is a better way.
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A to je koprodukcija u javnoj bezbednosti.
09:45
And the better way
is the coproduction of public safety.
is the coproduction of public safety.
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Hvala vam.
09:49
Thank you.
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(Aplauz)
09:50
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Tracie Keesee - Law enforcement professionalDr. Tracie Keesee is committed to making the New York Police Department the most diverse and inclusive police department in the world.
Why you should listen
Before joining the NYPD as the Deputy Commissioner of Equity and Inclusion, Dr. Tracie L. Keesee served as the Project Director of the National Initiative for Building Community Trust and Justice. In her current role, she strives to improve communication and collaboration between local police officers and community residents. Keesee also co-founded the Center for Policing Equity and is a 25-year police veteran.
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