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Yvette Alberdingk Thijm: The power of citizen video to create undeniable truths
Yvette Alberdingk Thijm: 公民使用录像来创造不可否认的事实的力量
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智能手机和摄像头可以是我们为了社会公正的最有力量的武器吗？通过她的组织“目击”，Yvette Alberdingk Thijm 发展了策略和科技来帮助行动主义者使用录像来保护和防卫人权。她分享了距离目击者增强力量的故事 --- 同时呼吁我们使用这个强大的在手边的武器去捕捉不公正的案例。
Yvette Alberdingk Thijm - Human rights activist
Yvette Alberdingk Thijm helps activists use video and technology to protect and defend human rights. Full bio
Yvette Alberdingk Thijm helps activists use video and technology to protect and defend human rights. Full bio
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It's 1996
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在1996年
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in Uvira in eastern Congo.
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在刚果民主共和国东部的乌维拉
这是布克尼
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This is Bukeni.
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Militia commanders walk into his village,
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宾民指挥官走进他的村庄
敲开他邻居的门
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knock on his neighbors' doors
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00:22
and whisk their children away
to training camps.
to training camps.
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用吹嘘的哨子将
他们的孩子叫到培训营里
他们的孩子叫到培训营里
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Bukeni borrows a video camera
from a local wedding photographer,
from a local wedding photographer,
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布克尼从一个当地的
婚礼摄影师那里借了一台录像机
婚礼摄影师那里借了一台录像机
伪装成一个记者
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he disguises as a journalist
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00:32
and he walks into the camps
to negotiate the release of the children.
to negotiate the release of the children.
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然后他走进营里开始
进行释放孩子的谈判
进行释放孩子的谈判
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He filmed footage of the children
being trained as soldiers.
being trained as soldiers.
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他拍摄了孩子们
被培训成军人的过程
被培训成军人的过程
【军人们不要担心】
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[Soldiers don't worry!]
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【你们身穿制服】
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[You'll wear uniforms!]
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[You'll have free cars!]
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【你们有免费的车】
【免费的豆子】
00:46
[Free beans!]
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00:47
Many of these children
are under 15 years old,
are under 15 years old,
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在孩子们当中
许多在15岁以下
许多在15岁以下
那是战争犯罪
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and that is a war crime.
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【自由】
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[Free!]
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00:55
But you don't have to go to eastern Congo
to find human rights abuses.
to find human rights abuses.
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但是你不需要去到东刚果民主共和国
去发现人权虐待
去发现人权虐待
00:59
In America, a country
with a rapidly aging population,
with a rapidly aging population,
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在美国，一个老龄化
迅速的国家
迅速的国家
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experts estimate
that one in 10 people over 60
that one in 10 people over 60
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专家们预估在60岁以上
的人群中，每10个其中的一个
的人群中，每10个其中的一个
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will experience abuse.
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将会经历虐待
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It's a hidden epidemic,
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这是一个隐性的症状
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and most of that abuse
actually happens at the hands
actually happens at the hands
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大部分的虐待
实际上发生在
实际上发生在
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of close caretakers or family.
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亲近的护理人员
或者家庭成员手上
或者家庭成员手上
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This is Vicky.
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这是维基
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Vicky put an iron gate on her bedroom door
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维基在她的卧室门上
放了一个钢门
放了一个钢门
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and she became a prisoner,
in fact, in her own house,
in fact, in her own house,
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她成为了一个监狱的犯人
实际上，在她自己的房子里
实际上，在她自己的房子里
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out of fear for her nephew
who had taken over her home as a drug den.
who had taken over her home as a drug den.
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出于对她侄子将她的房子
变成一个毒品制作工厂的恐惧
变成一个毒品制作工厂的恐惧
01:33
And this is Mary.
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这是玛丽
01:35
Mary picked up a video camera
for the first time in her life
for the first time in her life
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玛丽在她生命中第一次
拿起了录像机
拿起了录像机
当她65岁的时候
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when she was 65 years old,
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她告诉维基和
其他99个老年人
其他99个老年人
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and she asked Vicky
and 99 other older people
and 99 other older people
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都有过被虐待经历的人
在镜头前讲述他们的故事
在镜头前讲述他们的故事
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who had experienced abuse
to tell their stories on camera.
to tell their stories on camera.
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01:50
And I am Dutch,
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我是一个荷兰人
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so in the Netherlands
we are obsessed with the truth.
we are obsessed with the truth.
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在荷兰，我们荷兰人
沉迷于真相
沉迷于真相
当你是一个小孩子的时候
那是一件事很棒的事情
那是一件事很棒的事情
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Now, when you are a child,
that's a great thing,
that's a great thing,
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01:57
because you can basically
get away with anything,
get away with anything,
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因为你不必担心任何事情
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like "Yes, Mama,
it was me who smoked the cigars."
it was me who smoked the cigars."
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就好像说“是的，妈妈
我是吸烟的那一个”
我是吸烟的那一个”
（观众笑声）
02:03
(Laughter)
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02:05
But I think this is why
I have dedicated my life
I have dedicated my life
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但这正是为什么
我致力于我这一生
我致力于我这一生
去倡导公民录下
以及揭露对人权的侵犯
以及揭露对人权的侵犯
02:09
to promoting citizen video
to expose human rights violations,
to expose human rights violations,
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因为我坚信在录像的力量中
可以创造不可否认的事实
可以创造不可否认的事实
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because I believe in the power of video
to create undeniable truths.
to create undeniable truths.
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02:19
And my organization, WITNESS,
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我的组织，“目睹”
帮助使用刚果人录像
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helped use the Congolese videos
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02:23
to help convict and send a notorious
warlord called Thomas Lubanga to jail.
warlord called Thomas Lubanga to jail.
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去帮助将臭名昭著的军阀
汤玛斯 鲁班噶定罪并送到监狱
汤玛斯 鲁班噶定罪并送到监狱
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And the videos that Mary shot,
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玛丽拍摄的录像
我们对玛丽和其他年长的
公正倡导者进行培训
公正倡导者进行培训
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we trained Mary and many other
elder justice advocates,
elder justice advocates,
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确保对年老人的虐待
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to make sure that
the stories of elder abuse
the stories of elder abuse
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会被送到国会议员那里
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reached lawmakers,
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02:41
and those stories
helped convince lawmakers
helped convince lawmakers
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这些故事帮助说服
国会议员
国会议员
通过标志性立法
来保护年老的美国人
来保护年老的美国人
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to pass landmark legislation
to protect older Americans.
to protect older Americans.
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02:50
So I wonder,
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所以，我在想
02:52
billions of us now have this powerful tool
right at our fingertips.
right at our fingertips.
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上亿人现在拥有这个强大的工具
就在我们的手上
就在我们的手上
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It's a camera.
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那就是摄像机
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So why are all of us not a more
powerful army of civic witnesses,
powerful army of civic witnesses,
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那么为什么我们所有人没有成为一个
更强大的公民目击者军队
更强大的公民目击者军队
就好像玛丽和布克尼一样？
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like Mary and Bukeni?
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03:05
Why is it that so much more video
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是什么原因如此多的录像
没有带来更多的权利
以及更多的公正？
以及更多的公正？
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is not leading to more rights
and more justice?
and more justice?
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03:13
And I think it is because
being an eyewitness is hard.
being an eyewitness is hard.
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我认为这是因为
作为一个目击者是不容易的
作为一个目击者是不容易的
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Your story will get denied,
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你的故事会被否认
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your video will get lost
in a sea of images,
in a sea of images,
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你的录像会被遗失在
图像的海洋中
图像的海洋中
你的故事将不被信任
然后你会成为目标
然后你会成为目标
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your story will not be trusted,
and you will be targeted.
and you will be targeted.
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03:27
So how do we help witnesses?
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那么我们该如何帮助目击者呢？
03:31
In Oaxaca, in Mexico,
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在瓦哈卡州，在墨西哥
教师运动组织了一个抗议
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the teachers' movement organized a protest
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在总统推翻
非常不民主的改革之后
非常不民主的改革之后
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after the president pushed down
very undemocratic reforms.
very undemocratic reforms.
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03:40
The federal police came down in buses
and started shooting at the protesters.
and started shooting at the protesters.
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联邦警察坐巴士前来
开始对示威游行者射击
开始对示威游行者射击
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At least seven people died
and many, many more were wounded.
and many, many more were wounded.
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至少7人死亡
更多的受伤者
更多的受伤者
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Images started circulating
of the shootings,
of the shootings,
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关于枪击的照片开始流传
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and the Mexican government
did what it always does.
did what it always does.
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墨西哥政府按照一贯的作风
发布了一个正式的声名
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It issued a formal statement,
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声名基本上是在
指控独立媒体
指控独立媒体
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and the statement basically
accused the independent media
accused the independent media
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指控他们假造新闻
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of creating fake news.
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04:01
It said, "We were not there,
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声名说，“我们当时不在那
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that was not us doing the shooting,
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不是我们进行的射击
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this did not happen."
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这根本没有发生。”
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But we had just trained
activists in Mexico
activists in Mexico
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但我们刚刚对墨西哥
的行动主义者做了培训
的行动主义者做了培训
教授他们对他们的照片
策略性地使用元数据
策略性地使用元数据
04:12
to use metadata strategically
with their images.
with their images.
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现今，元数据是一种你可以用摄像机
捕捉的一种信息
捕捉的一种信息
04:15
Now, metadata is the kind of information
that your camera captures
that your camera captures
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它会显示日期，位置
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that shows the date, the location,
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04:22
the temperature, the weather.
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温度，气候
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It can even show the very unique way
you hold your camera
you hold your camera
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它甚至可以显示你拿相机
的特殊方式
的特殊方式
当你捕捉情景的时候
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when you capture something.
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04:29
So the images started recirculating,
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那么图像开始再流传
而这次是伴随着
非常有验证性的
非常有验证性的
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and this time with the very verifying,
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有效的信息
04:34
validating information on top of them.
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04:37
And the federal government
had to retract their statement.
had to retract their statement.
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联邦政府不得不
收回他们的声名
收回他们的声名
04:41
Now, justice for the people for Oaxaca
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现今，公正对于瓦哈卡的人民来说
仍然很遥远
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is still far off,
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但是他们的故事，他们的真相
不会再被否认
不会再被否认
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but their stories, their truths,
can no longer be denied.
can no longer be denied.
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04:51
So we started thinking:
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于是我们开始想
04:53
What if you had "Proof Mode?"
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如果你有“证明模式”呢？
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What if everybody had
a camera in their hands
a camera in their hands
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如果每个人手头上
有一台摄像机
有一台摄像机
所有的平台
有那种证实的能力，会怎么样
有那种证实的能力，会怎么样
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and all the platforms
had that kind of validating ability.
had that kind of validating ability.
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所以，我们发展了
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So we developed --
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和安卓发展人员一起
叫做监护项目
叫做监护项目
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together with amazing Android developers
called the Guardian Project,
called the Guardian Project,
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我们发展了叫做
证明模式的一种科技
证明模式的一种科技
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we developed something called
a technology that's called Proof Mode,
a technology that's called Proof Mode,
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它可以将你的照片和元数据
匹配在一起
匹配在一起
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that marries those metadata
together with your image,
together with your image,
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验证和确认你的录像
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and it validates
and it verifies your video.
and it verifies your video.
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05:16
Now, imagine there is a deluge of images
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想象现在一股洪水般的照片
来自于世界各地的手机摄像头
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coming from the world's camera phones.
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05:23
Imagine if that information
could be trusted just a little bit more,
could be trusted just a little bit more,
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想象一下那些信息
可以被信任哪怕多一点点
可以被信任哪怕多一点点
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what the potential
would be for journalists,
would be for journalists,
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对于新闻记者来说
意味着怎样的可能性
意味着怎样的可能性
对于人权调查者来说
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for human rights investigators,
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对于人权律师来说
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for human rights lawyers.
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So we started sharing Proof Mode
with our partners in Brazil
with our partners in Brazil
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所以，我们开始和我们在巴西的
合作者分享证明模式
合作者分享证明模式
他们是很棒的媒体收集
叫做Coletivo Papo Reto
叫做Coletivo Papo Reto
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who are an amazing media collective
called Coletivo Papo Reto.
called Coletivo Papo Reto.
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05:44
Brazil is a tough place for human rights.
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巴西是一个对于人权来说
很困难的地方
很困难的地方
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The Brazilian police
kills thousands of people every year.
kills thousands of people every year.
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巴西警方每年处死
上千人
上千人
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The only time that
there's an investigation,
there's an investigation,
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调查仅仅发生在
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guess when?
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猜猜什么情况下？
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When there's video.
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当有录像的时候
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Seventeen-year-old Eduardo
was killed in broad daylight
was killed in broad daylight
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17岁的艾得多在光天化日之下
被处死
被处死
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by the Rio police,
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被里约警察
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and look what happens after they kill him.
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看看在他们处死他之后
发生了什么
发生了什么
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They put a gun in the dead boy's hand,
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他们将一把枪放在
已经死去的男孩的手中
已经死去的男孩的手中
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they shoot the gun twice --
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他们开了2次枪
06:15
(Shot)
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（射击）
06:17
to fabricate their story of self-defense.
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去伪造他们自我防卫的假象
06:22
The woman who filmed this
was a very, very courageous eyewitness,
was a very, very courageous eyewitness,
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拍摄这个的女士
是一个非常勇敢的目击者
是一个非常勇敢的目击者
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and she had to go into hiding
after she posted her video
after she posted her video
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她在发布这个视屏之后
不得不躲藏起来
不得不躲藏起来
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for fear of her life.
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出于对她生命安全的恐惧
06:31
But people are filming,
and they're not going to stop filming,
and they're not going to stop filming,
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但是人们在拍摄
而且他们不会停止拍摄
而且他们不会停止拍摄
06:34
so we're now working together
with media collectives
with media collectives
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所以我们现在合作起来
携手媒体收集
携手媒体收集
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so the residents on their WhatsApp
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所以他们WhatsApp上的居住者
会经常收到指导和窍门
06:40
frequently get guidance and tips,
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06:43
how to film safely,
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如何安全地拍摄
如何安全地上传
你拍摄的录像
你拍摄的录像
06:44
how to upload the video
that you shoot safely,
that you shoot safely,
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如何捕捉一个情景
使得它实际上可以成为证据
使得它实际上可以成为证据
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how to capture a scene
so that it can actually count as evidence.
so that it can actually count as evidence.
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06:52
And here is an inspiration
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这里是启示
从在巴西的一群叫做Mídia Ninja那里
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from a group called Mídia Ninja in Brazil.
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06:58
The man on left is a heavily armed
military policeman.
military policeman.
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左边的这个男人是一个重型
武装的军事警察
武装的军事警察
07:04
He walks up to a protester --
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他走向一个抗议者
当你在巴西抗议游行的时候
你可以被逮捕或是有更坏的后果
你可以被逮捕或是有更坏的后果
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when you protest in Brazil,
you can be arrested or worse --
you can be arrested or worse --
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and he says to the protester, "Watch me,
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他对抗议者说，“看着我
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I am going to search you right now."
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我现在将对你搜身。”
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And the protester
is a live-streaming activist --
is a live-streaming activist --
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抗议者是一个
现场直播的行动主义者
现场直播的行动主义者
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he wears a little camera --
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他身上有一个小的摄像头
他对军事警察说
“我正看着你
“我正看着你
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and he says to the military policeman,
he says, "I am watching you,
he says, "I am watching you,
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07:24
and there are 5,000 people
watching you with me."
watching you with me."
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这里有5000人正在
和我一起看着你
和我一起看着你
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Now, the tables are turned.
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现在，局势扭转过来
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The distant witnesses,
the watching audience, they matter.
the watching audience, they matter.
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目击者和观看者
的距离，很重要
的距离，很重要
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So we started thinking,
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于是我们开始想
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what if you could tap into that power,
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如果你们可以发挥那股力量
远距离目击者的力量会怎样呢？
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the power of distant witnesses?
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如果你可以深入到他们的专长
他们的杠杆效应
他们的杠杆效应
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What if you could pull in
their expertise, their leverage,
their expertise, their leverage,
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他们的团结，他们的技巧
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their solidarity, their skills
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当一个在前线的群体
需要他们在那里的时候，会怎样呢？
需要他们在那里的时候，会怎样呢？
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when a frontline community
needs them to be there?
needs them to be there?
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07:50
And we started developing
a project that's called Mobilize Us,
a project that's called Mobilize Us,
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我们开始发展一个叫做
Mobilize Us 的项目
Mobilize Us 的项目
因为我们中的很多，我会设想
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because many of us, I would assume,
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want to help
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想要去帮助
08:01
and lend our skills and our expertise,
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借用他们的技巧和我们的专长
但是我们常常不在那儿
当一个前线社区
当一个前线社区
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but we are often not there
when a frontline community
when a frontline community
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或是单独的个人
面对虐待的时候
面对虐待的时候
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or a single individual faces an abuse.
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08:10
And it could be as simple
as this little app that we created
as this little app that we created
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它可以简单得就像
我们创造的小应用
我们创造的小应用
仅仅对肇事者
显示手机另一端
显示手机另一端
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that just shows the perpetrator
on the other side of the phone
on the other side of the phone
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有多少人在看着他
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how many people are watching him.
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08:20
But now, imagine that you could put
a layer of computer task routing
a layer of computer task routing
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但是现在，想象一下你可以放
一层电脑任务的路由
一层电脑任务的路由
在那上面
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on top of that.
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想象一下你是一个面对
移民袭击的社区
移民袭击的社区
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Imagine that you're a community
facing an immigration raid,
facing an immigration raid,
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08:31
and at that very moment,
at that right moment, via livestream,
at that right moment, via livestream,
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在那个非常时刻
就在那个时刻，通过直播媒体
就在那个时刻，通过直播媒体
你可以放进一百个
合法观察者
合法观察者
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you could pull in
a hundred legal observers.
a hundred legal observers.
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How would that change the situation?
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那会如何改变局势？
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So we started piloting this
with our partner communities in Brazil.
with our partner communities in Brazil.
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所以我们开始和
在巴西的社区伙伴进行试点
在巴西的社区伙伴进行试点
有一个叫卡米拉的女士
08:45
This is a woman called Camilla,
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她可以 -- 她是一个叫贫民窟Sko
的一个贫民窟的领导者
的一个贫民窟的领导者
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and she was able -- she's the leader
in a favela called Favela Skol --
in a favela called Favela Skol --
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she was able to pull in distant witnesses
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她能够使远距离的
目击者加入进来
目击者加入进来
通过在线媒体
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via livestream
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帮助翻译
08:58
to help translation,
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08:59
to help distribution,
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帮助发行
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to help amplify her story
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帮助放大她的故事
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after her community was forcibly evicted
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在她的社区被强行驱逐出去之后
在去年夏天，为了一个冠冕堂皇的
奥林匹克的举行
奥林匹克的举行
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to make room for a very glossy
Olympic event last summer.
Olympic event last summer.
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09:12
So we're talking about good witnessing,
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所以我们所谈论的是
好的目击
好的目击
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but what happens
if the perpetrators are filming?
if the perpetrators are filming?
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但如果肇事者在拍摄呢？
09:19
What happens if a bystander films
and doesn't do anything?
and doesn't do anything?
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如果旁观者拍摄了录像
但没有作为会怎样呢？
但没有作为会怎样呢？
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This is the story of Chrissy.
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这是克里斯的故事
09:25
Chrissy is a transgender woman
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克里斯是一个变性女士
09:28
who walked into a McDonald's in Maryland
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他走进马里兰的一个麦当劳
使用女性洗手间
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to use the women's bathroom.
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09:32
Two teens viciously beat her
for using that woman's bathroom,
for using that woman's bathroom,
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两个青少年对她进行毒打
因为她使用了女性洗手间
因为她使用了女性洗手间
麦当劳的员工
用他的手机拍摄下来这个情景
用他的手机拍摄下来这个情景
09:38
and the McDonald's employee
filmed this on his mobile phone.
filmed this on his mobile phone.
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09:42
And he posted his video,
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他上传了这个录像
09:44
and it has garnered
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它囊括了
09:46
thousands of racist
and transphobic comments.
and transphobic comments.
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上千个关于种族的
和跨性别恐惧的评论
和跨性别恐惧的评论
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So we started a project
that's called Capturing Hate.
that's called Capturing Hate.
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所以我们开始了一个叫做
Capturing Hate 的项目
Capturing Hate 的项目
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We took a very, very small sample
of eyewitness videos
of eyewitness videos
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我们将目击者的视屏
截取一段很小的片段
截取一段很小的片段
那些显示对变性人
和不对性别符合的人的虐待
和不对性别符合的人的虐待
10:00
that showed abuse against transgender
and gender-nonconforming people.
and gender-nonconforming people.
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We searched two words,
"tranny fight" and "stud fight."
"tranny fight" and "stud fight."
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我们搜索了两个词
“变性人斗争“和”学生斗争“
“变性人斗争“和”学生斗争“
10:11
And those 329 videos were watched
and are still being watched
and are still being watched
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这些329个被观看过的
以及正在被观看的录像
以及正在被观看的录像
10:16
as we sit here in this theater,
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当我们坐在这个剧院里
惊人的9千万次
10:18
a stunning almost 90 million times,
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10:22
and there are hundreds of thousands
of comments with these videos,
of comments with these videos,
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成百上千的评论
伴随着这个录像
伴随着这个录像
10:25
egging on to more violence and more hate.
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煽动更多的暴力和憎恨
10:30
So we started developing a methodology
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所以我们开始发展一个方法
将所有的没有量化的视觉证据
10:32
that took all that
unquantified visual evidence
unquantified visual evidence
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转化成数据
将录像转化成数据
将录像转化成数据
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and turned it into data,
turning video into data,
turning video into data,
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10:41
and with that tool,
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有了那个工具
LGBT组织现在使用那个数据
10:42
LGBT organizations are now using that data
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去为了权力进行斗争
10:47
to fight for rights.
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And we take that data
and we take it back to Silicon Valley,
and we take it back to Silicon Valley,
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我们将数据带回到硅谷
我们对他们说
10:52
and we say to them:
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怎么可能
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"How is it possible
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10:56
that these videos are still out there
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这些录像还在那里流传
在一个充满了憎恨的气候下
11:00
in a climate of hate
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煽动更多的憎恨
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egging on more hate,
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11:04
summoning more violence,
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招致更多的暴力
11:06
when you have policies that actually say
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当你们有政策实际上说
11:08
you do not allow this kind of content? --
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你不允许有这样的内容？
11:12
urging them to change their policies.
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催促他们改变他们的政策
11:16
So I have hope.
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所以我有希望
11:19
I have hope that we can turn more video
into more rights and more justice.
into more rights and more justice.
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我希望我们可以将
更多的录像转变成更多的权利和公正
更多的录像转变成更多的权利和公正
11:24
Ten billion video views
on Snapchat,
on Snapchat,
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Snapchat上有
10亿录像浏览次数
10亿录像浏览次数
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per day.
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每天
11:32
So what if we could turn
that Snapchat generation
that Snapchat generation
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如果我们可以将Snapchat那一代
转变成
转变成
有效的，安全地公民目击会怎样呢？
11:35
into effective and safe civic witnesses?
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如果他们可以成为这新一代的
布克尼会怎样呢？
布克尼会怎样呢？
11:38
What if they could become
the Bukenis of this new generation?
the Bukenis of this new generation?
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11:44
In India, women have already
started using Snapchat filters
started using Snapchat filters
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在印度，女人已经
开始使用Snapcha过滤
开始使用Snapcha过滤
在她们讲述家庭暴力的时候
保护她们的身份
保护她们的身份
11:48
to protect their identity when they
speak out about domestic violence.
speak out about domestic violence.
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【他们在家虐待我
从来不让我出门】
从来不让我出门】
11:52
[They tortured me at home
and never let me go out.]
and never let me go out.]
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11:55
The truth is, the real truth, the truth
that doesn't fit into any TED Talk,
that doesn't fit into any TED Talk,
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真相是，真正的事实，事实
没有适合任何TEDTalk的
没有适合任何TEDTalk的
是为了人权虐待的斗争是如此艰难
11:59
is fighting human rights abuse is hard.
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对人权虐待没有容易的解决方法
12:02
There are no easy solutions
for human rights abuse.
for human rights abuse.
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没有一样单独的科技
12:05
And there's not a single
piece of technology
piece of technology
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12:08
that can ever stop the perpetrators.
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可以阻止肇事者
12:11
But for the survivors,
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但对于幸存者来说
12:13
for the victims,
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对于受害者
12:15
for the marginalized communities,
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对于边缘化的社区
12:18
their stories, their truths, matter.
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他们的故事，他们的真相，重要
12:22
And that is where justice begins.
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那就是公正开始的地方
12:25
Thank you.
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谢谢
（观众掌声）
12:26
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Yvette Alberdingk Thijm - Human rights activistYvette Alberdingk Thijm helps activists use video and technology to protect and defend human rights.
Why you should listen
Yvette Alberdingk Thijm leads WITNESS.org, a global team of human rights activists who help anyone use video and technology to protect and defend human rights. WITNESS supports marginalized and vulnerable communities to expose their truths, counter harmful and abusive narratives, and mobilize their communities to build a just world. Yvette believes that right and power to tell your own story is where dignity, justice, and equality begins.
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