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Tristan Harris: How better tech could protect us from distraction
特里斯坦 哈里斯: 科技设计新思路--如何帮助我们避免注意力被分散
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有多少次科技产品打断了我们想做的事？在工作和娱乐时，我们被消息和弹窗分散精力的时间令人吃惊----科技非但没有使我们充实度日，相反它偷走了我们的时间。为了从科技使用上获得更有效的交流，设计者特里斯坦 哈里斯对科技设计提出了一个令人深思的新想法。他问到：“当设计开始以实现人类深层价值为目的时，科技的未来会怎样？”
Tristan Harris - Design thinker
Tristan Harris helps the technology industry more consciously and ethically shape the human spirit and human potential. Full bio
Tristan Harris helps the technology industry more consciously and ethically shape the human spirit and human potential. Full bio
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00:13
What does it mean to spend our time well?
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利用好自己的时间意味着什么？
00:20
I spend a lot of my time
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我花了很多时间
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thinking about how to spend my time.
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思考怎样合理度日
00:26
Probably too much --
I probably obsess over it.
I probably obsess over it.
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也许思考太多了--我可能痴迷于这个问题
00:29
My friends think I do.
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至少我的朋友是这么认为
00:30
But I feel like I kind of have to,
because these days,
because these days,
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但我必须得这么做，因为这些天
00:35
it feels like little bits of my time
kind of slip away from me,
kind of slip away from me,
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我觉得时间从我的身边溜走
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and when that happens, it feels like
parts of my life are slipping away.
parts of my life are slipping away.
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当这发生的时候，好像我生命的一部分溜走了
00:45
Specifically,
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准确的说，
00:46
it feels like little bits
of my time get slipped away
of my time get slipped away
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感觉我那些流逝的时间
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to various things like this,
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是被杂七杂八的事情用掉了
00:50
like technology -- I check things.
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比如科技----在我不时查看东西时
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I'll give you an example.
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举个例子
00:55
If this email shows up --
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如果这封邮件出现了
00:57
how many of you have gotten
an email like this, right?
an email like this, right?
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你们中的很多人收到过类似的邮件，对吧？
01:00
I've been tagged in a photo.
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我被标记在了一张照片上
01:03
When this appears,
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当它出现时
01:05
I can't help but click on it right now.
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我不由自主地点开它
01:08
Right? Because, like,
what if it's a bad photo?
what if it's a bad photo?
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因为担心它可能是一张不好照片
01:11
So I have to click it right now.
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所以我不得不立即查看它
01:13
But I'm not just going
to click "See photo,"
to click "See photo,"
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但我将不仅仅点击“查看照片”
01:16
what I'm actually going to do
is spend the next 20 minutes.
is spend the next 20 minutes.
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接下来我会在这件事上花费20分钟
（笑声）
01:18
(Laughter)
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01:20
But the worst part is that I know
this is what's going to happen,
this is what's going to happen,
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但最糟糕的事情是我明明知道接下来发生什么
01:24
and even knowing
that's what's going to happen
that's what's going to happen
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甚至即使我知道接来下会发生什么
01:27
doesn't stop me
from doing it again the next time.
from doing it again the next time.
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我下次依然会这么做
01:31
Or I find myself in a situation like this,
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再举个例子
01:36
where I check my email
and I pull down to refresh,
and I pull down to refresh,
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我检查邮件并下拉刷新
01:41
But the thing is that 60 seconds later,
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可60秒之后
01:44
I'll pull down to refresh again.
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我将会再次下拉刷新
我为什么要那么做？
01:50
Why am I doing this?
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这毫无意义
01:51
This doesn't make any sense.
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01:55
But I'll give you a hint
why this is happening.
why this is happening.
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下面我来解释为什么会这样
02:00
What do you think makes
more money in the United States
more money in the United States
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你认为在美国做什么
02:05
than movies, game parks
and baseball combined?
and baseball combined?
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会比电影、野生保护区和棒球三者加起来还赚钱？
答案是老虎机
02:13
Slot machines.
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02:17
How can slot machines make all this money
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老虎机是怎么赚到那么多钱的
02:20
when we play with such small
amounts of money?
amounts of money?
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通常我们用很少的钱去玩
02:26
We play with coins.
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或者说我们只是用硬币去玩
02:27
How is this possible?
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这怎么可能？
02:30
Well, the thing is ...
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好吧，事实是
02:33
my phone is a slot machine.
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我的手机就像台老虎机
02:37
Every time I check my phone,
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每次我查看我的手机
02:39
I'm playing the slot machine to see,
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我都像在玩老虎机并想着
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what am I going to get?
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我将得到什么？
我将得到什么？
02:43
What am I going to get?
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每次我检查邮件
02:45
Every time I check my email,
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我都像在玩老虎机并想着
02:46
I'm playing the slot machine,
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比如说，“我将会得知什么呢？
02:48
saying, "What am I going to get?"
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02:50
Every time I scroll a news feed,
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每次我滚动新闻
我都像在玩老虎机
02:53
I'm playing the slot machine to see,
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想着接着我能看到什么？
02:55
what am I going to get next?
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02:58
And the thing is that,
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实际上
02:59
again, knowing exactly
how this works -- and I'm a designer,
how this works -- and I'm a designer,
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我非常清楚这是怎么发生的，因为我是个设计师
03:02
I know exactly how
the psychology of this works,
the psychology of this works,
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我非常清楚这些行为下的心理学
03:04
I know exactly what's going on --
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我非常清楚发生了什么
03:06
but it doesn't leave me with any choice,
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但我毫无选择
03:09
I still just get sucked into it.
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我仍旧深陷于此
接下来我们该怎么办？
03:12
So what are we going to do?
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03:14
Because it leaves us
with this all-or-nothing relationship
with this all-or-nothing relationship
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因为它没有什么折中的选择
03:18
with technology, right?
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在当今的科技下，对吧？
03:20
You're either on,
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你要么选择使用它
03:22
and you're connected
and distracted all the time,
and distracted all the time,
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那么你就会一直被它所打扰，无法专心
03:24
or you're off,
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或者你干脆不使用它
03:26
but then you're wondering,
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但是你就会想
03:28
am I missing something important?
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我是不是错过了什么重要的事？
03:30
In other words, you're either distracted
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换句话说，你要么被它弄得无法专心，
03:33
or you have fear of missing out.
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要么你自己会担心，唯恐错过了什么
03:36
Right?
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对吧？
03:38
So we need to restore choice.
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所以我们需要一个可以不再这样的办法
我们可以用科技来解决这个问题
03:43
We want to have
a relationship with technology
a relationship with technology
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that gives us back choice
about how we spend time with it,
about how we spend time with it,
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从而让我们重新选择度过时光的方式
03:50
and we're going to need
help from designers,
help from designers,
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我们将需要设计师的帮助
03:54
because knowing this stuff doesn't help.
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因为光知道这些理论并没有什么用
03:57
We're going to need design help.
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我们需要从设计上入手
03:59
So what would that look like?
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那么这一切将会变成什么样呢？
04:02
So let's take an example that we all face:
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我举个我们都会遇到的例子
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chat -- text messaging.
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聊天----发短信
04:08
So let's say there's two people.
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假设这里有两个人
04:09
Nancy's on the left
and she's working on a document,
and she's working on a document,
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左边的是南希，她在处理文件
04:12
and John's on the right.
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右边的是约翰
04:14
And John suddenly remembers,
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这时约翰突然想起
04:16
"I need to ask Nancy
for that document before I forget."
for that document before I forget."
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在我把那个文件的事情忘了之前，我点去问问南希
04:22
So when he sends her that message,
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所以当他问南希这件事时，
04:23
it blows away her attention.
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南希的注意力被打断了
04:27
That's what we're doing all the time,
bulldozing each other's attention,
bulldozing each other's attention,
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这是我们一直做的事情，强行打断彼此的注意力
04:30
left and right.
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不论何时何地
04:32
And there's serious cost to this,
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这种做法也带来了严重的代价
04:34
because every time
we interrupt each other,
we interrupt each other,
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因为每次我们互相打断
04:38
it takes us about 23 minutes, on average,
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都会花费我们大概23分钟
04:42
to refocus our attention.
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去重新集中注意力
04:43
We actually cycle through
two different projects
two different projects
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事实上 在我们回到原本要做的事情之前
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before we come back
to the original thing we were doing.
to the original thing we were doing.
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我们在两件不同的事情上循环
04:50
This is Gloria Mark's research
combined with Microsoft research,
combined with Microsoft research,
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这是一份整合了格洛瑞亚.马克和微软的调查的报告
04:55
that showed this.
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报告证实了这一点
04:56
And her research also shows
that it actually trains bad habits.
that it actually trains bad habits.
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并且她的研究还表明这还会让我们养成坏习惯
05:00
The more interruptions we get externally,
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我们被外界打扰的越多
05:03
it's conditioning and training us
to interrupt ourselves.
to interrupt ourselves.
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我们越被训练去如何去打扰自己
05:08
We actually self-interrupt
every three-and-a-half minutes.
every three-and-a-half minutes.
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实际上每3.5分钟我们就自扰一次
05:13
This is crazy.
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这太疯狂了
05:14
So how do we fix this?
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我们该怎么挽救？
05:15
Because Nancy and John are in this
all-or-nothing relationship.
all-or-nothing relationship.
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因为南希和约翰之间并没有什么中间选择
05:18
Nancy might want to disconnect,
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南希也许不愿被打扰
05:20
but then she'd be worried:
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但她会担心
05:21
What if I'm missing something important?
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我错过了重要的事情怎么办？
05:24
Design can fix this problem.
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设计可以解决这个问题
05:27
Let's say you have
Nancy again on the left,
Nancy again on the left,
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在此假设南希在左侧
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John on the right.
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约翰在右侧
05:30
And John remembers,
"I need to send Nancy that document."
"I need to send Nancy that document."
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约翰记着“我得发给南希这份文件”
05:33
Except this time,
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然而这次
05:34
Nancy can mark that she's focused.
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南希可以说 她正在专心工作
05:36
Let's say she drags a slider and says,
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她一边拖动着滑块一边说
05:38
"I want to be focused for 30 minutes,"
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我想集中精力30分钟
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so -- bam -- she's focused.
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所以---她聚精会神起来
05:42
Now when John wants to message her,
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现在约翰想要传递给她信息
05:45
he can get the thought off of his mind --
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他可以放弃这个想法
05:47
because he has a need,
he has this thought,
he has this thought,
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即使他需要这么做，他有这个想法
05:49
and he needs to dump it out
before he forgets.
before he forgets.
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而且他需要在忘记之前实现它
05:52
Except this time,
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但这次不行
05:54
it holds the messages
so that Nancy can still focus,
so that Nancy can still focus,
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南希拒绝接受信息，所以她可以继续保持专注
05:58
but John can get the thought
off of his mind.
off of his mind.
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约翰可以忘记这个想法
06:02
But this only works
if one last thing is true,
if one last thing is true,
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但是唯有满足一个条件，这个设想才能成立
06:06
which is that Nancy needs to know
that if something is truly important,
that if something is truly important,
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就是南希需要知道这件事是否真的重要
06:11
John can still interrupt.
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约翰还是可以来打扰
但不是无心的打扰
06:16
But instead of having constant
accidental or mindless interruptions,
accidental or mindless interruptions,
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06:20
we're now only creating
conscious interruptions,
conscious interruptions,
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我们采用有意识的打扰手段
为此我们需要做两件事
06:24
So we're doing two things here.
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06:26
We're creating a new choice
for both Nancy and John,
for both Nancy and John,
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我们为南希和约翰创造了一个新的选择
06:30
But there's a second, subtle thing
we're doing here, too.
we're doing here, too.
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但是我们在这里添加了一个小条件
06:34
And it's that we're changing
the question we're answering.
the question we're answering.
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同时我们也正在改变我们回答的问题
06:37
Instead of the goal of chat being:
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而不是将对话作为目标
06:42
"Let's design it so it's easy
to send a message" --
to send a message" --
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“让我们重新设计，使其易于传递信息”
06:45
that's the goal of chat,
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这是对话的目的
06:46
it should be really easy to send
a message to someone --
a message to someone --
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它应该使得发送信息变得非常容易--
06:49
we change the goal to something
deeper and a human value,
deeper and a human value,
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我们深化了交谈的目的，并融入了人的价值
06:52
which is: "Let's create the highest
possible quality communication
possible quality communication
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就是：在人与人之间
提供最高质量的交流
06:57
in a relationship between two people.
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07:00
So we upgraded the goal.
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所以我们提高了目标
07:03
Now, do designers
actually care about this?
actually care about this?
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当今的设计者是否真的关心这些？
07:06
Do we want to have conversations
about what these deeper human goals are?
about what these deeper human goals are?
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我们是否要讨论这些更深层的人类目标？
07:12
Well, I'll tell you one story.
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我要给你们讲个故事
07:14
A little over a year ago,
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大概一年前，
我要去协助组织一场会议
07:17
I got to help organize a meeting
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07:20
between some of technology's leading
designers and Thich Nhat Hanh.
designers and Thich Nhat Hanh.
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那是由一些顶尖的科技设计者和一行禅师参加的会议
07:26
Thich Nhat Hanh is an international
spokesperson for mindfulness meditation.
spokesperson for mindfulness meditation.
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一行禅师是冥想修行的国际发言人
那是一次非常精彩的会议
07:31
And it was the most amazing meeting.
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你可以想象有一个房间
07:32
You have to imagine -- picture a room --
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07:34
on one side of the room,
you have a bunch of tech geeks;
you have a bunch of tech geeks;
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一边是一群科技奇才
07:38
on the other side of the room,
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另一边
07:40
you have a bunch of long brown robes,
shaved heads, Buddhist monks.
shaved heads, Buddhist monks.
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是一群穿着棕色长袍，剃了光头的僧人
07:46
And the questions were about
the deepest human values,
the deepest human values,
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话题是关于人类深层价值的问题
07:49
like what does the future
of technology look like
of technology look like
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比如未来的科技会是什么样子
07:52
when you're designing
for the deepest questions
for the deepest questions
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当你的设计涉及到了深刻的问题
07:54
and the deepest human values?
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以及人类深层的价值时？
07:56
And our conversation centered
on listening more deeply
on listening more deeply
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并且我们的话题着重于深入地倾听
08:00
to what those values might be.
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那些价值可能是什么
08:02
He joked in our conversation
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他在对话中开玩笑说
08:04
that what if, instead of a spell check,
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假如, 除了拼写检查
08:07
you had a compassion check,
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你做了一个同情心检查
08:09
meaning, you might highlight a word
that might be accidentally abrasive --
that might be accidentally abrasive --
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意思是，你在聊天时，在无意中造成了伤害--
08:13
perceived as abrasive by someone else.
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这种伤害可能被他人感觉到了
08:16
So does this kind of conversation
happen in the real world,
happen in the real world,
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那么这种对话会在现实中发生吗，
08:20
not just in these design meetings?
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不仅仅只发生在我们刚才假设的情况中？
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Well, the answer is yes,
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答案是肯定的
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and one of my favorites is Couchsurfing.
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我最喜欢的一个是“沙发客”
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If you didn't know,
Couchsurfing is a website
Couchsurfing is a website
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“沙发客”是个网站
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that matches people
who are looking for a place to stay
who are looking for a place to stay
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可以给旅游时寻找房屋的人提供帮助
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with a free couch, from someone
who's trying to offer it.
who's trying to offer it.
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那些愿意帮助的人会提供免费住宿的沙发
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So, great service --
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非常棒的服务--
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what would their design goal be?
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他们的设计目标是什么？
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What are you designing
for if you work at Couchsurfing?
for if you work at Couchsurfing?
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如果你在沙发客工作，你会如何设计？
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Well, you would think
it's to match guests with hosts.
it's to match guests with hosts.
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你可能会认为是匹配房主和客人
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Right?
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对吧?
08:50
That's a pretty good goal.
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这是一个很好的目标
08:52
But that would kind of be like
our goal with messaging before,
our goal with messaging before,
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但这很像我们以前发信息的目标
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where we're just trying
to deliver a message.
to deliver a message.
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我们只是想去传递信息
08:57
So what's the deeper, human goal?
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那么更深层的人类目标是什么？
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Well, they set their goal
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这个目标就是
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as the need to create lasting,
positive experiences and relationships
positive experiences and relationships
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需要在从未见过的人之间
创造持久的，积极的经历和关系
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between people who've never met before.
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And the most amazing thing
about this was in 2007,
about this was in 2007,
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关于这点，在2007年发生了一个非常有趣的事
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they introduced a way to measure this,
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他们引入了一种衡量这件事的方式
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which is incredible.
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这很不可思议
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I'll tell you how it works.
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我将告诉你它如何运作
09:19
For every design goal you have,
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对于每个设计目标
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you have to have
a corresponding measurement
a corresponding measurement
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你都要有一个相应的衡量方法
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to know how you're doing --
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从而知道你做的怎么样--
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a way of measuring success.
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这是一种衡量成功的方式
09:26
So what they do is,
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那么做法是
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let's say you take two people who meet up,
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假设你选取了两个刚见面的人
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and they take the number of days
those two people spent together,
those two people spent together,
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估计了他们在一起的天数
然后算了下在那些天他们用了多少个小时--
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and then they estimate how many
hours were in those days --
hours were in those days --
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how many hours did
those two people spend together?
those two people spend together?
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即两个人在一起待了有多少个小时？
09:43
And then after they spend
that time together,
that time together,
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在这之后
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they ask both of them:
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问他们
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How positive was your experience?
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你觉得这段经历有多好？
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Did you have a good experience
with this person that you met?
with this person that you met?
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你和你遇见的人有没有读过好的时光？
09:52
And they subtract
from those positive hours
from those positive hours
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然后把在网上花费的时间
09:56
the amount of time
people spent on the website,
people spent on the website,
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从那些美好的时光中减去
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because that's a cost to people's lives.
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因为网上的时间算是一种对于生命的损失
10:03
Why should we value that as success?
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那么为什么我们更倾向这种方法？
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And what you were left with
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我们把剩下的部分称为
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is something they refer to as "net
orchestrated conviviality,"
orchestrated conviviality,"
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"被网络精心安排的快乐"
10:12
or, really, just a net
"Good Times" created.
"Good Times" created.
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或者说是网络带来的“美妙时光”。
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The net hours that would have never
existed, had Couchsurfing not existed.
existed, had Couchsurfing not existed.
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如果沙发客的网站不存在，那么这些网络美妙时光也不会存在
10:20
Can you imagine how inspiring it would be
to come to work every day
to come to work every day
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你能够想象它有多么鼓舞人心
通过计算人们现实生活中的快乐小时数
10:24
and measure your success
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10:26
in the actual net new contribution
of hours in people's lives
of hours in people's lives
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去衡量你的成功与否
10:31
that are positive,
that would have never existed
that would have never existed
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如果你没有每天专心致志地工作
10:33
if you didn't do what you were
about to do at work today?
about to do at work today?
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你就无法达到这种成功
你可以想象如果全世界都按这个模式运行吗？
10:37
Can you imagine a whole world
that worked this way?
that worked this way?
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10:43
Can you imagine a social network that --
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你可以想象一个社交网络--
10:46
let's say you care about cooking,
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假如你喜欢烹饪，
10:47
and it measured its success
in terms of cooking nights organized
in terms of cooking nights organized
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通过根据烹饪的时间
10:51
and the cooking articles
that you were glad you read,
that you were glad you read,
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加上你阅读喜爱的烹饪文章的时间
10:53
and subtracted from that the articles
you weren't glad you read
you weren't glad you read
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扣除你不喜欢读的文章
10:56
or the time you spent scrolling
that you didn't like?
that you didn't like?
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或者你翻看你不喜欢的文章时花费的时间来衡量成功与否
11:00
Imagine a professional social network
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想象一个专业的社交网络
11:03
that, instead of measuring its success
in terms of connections created
in terms of connections created
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不是根据它建立的联系
或者是发送信息来衡量成功
11:07
or messages sent,
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11:09
instead measured its success in terms
of the job offers that people got
of the job offers that people got
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但是根据人们是否能得到理想的工作
11:13
that they were excited to get.
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11:16
And subtracted the amount of time
people spent on the website.
people spent on the website.
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并减去人们在网上花费的时间
来衡量成功
11:20
Or imagine dating services,
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再比如说 约会服务
11:23
like maybe Tinder or something,
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比如Tinder之类的
11:25
where instead of measuring the number
of swipes left and right people did,
of swipes left and right people did,
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当下他们通过衡量人们使用软件的次数
11:28
which is how they measure success today,
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去评估是否成功
然而能让约会的人之间创造的深层的，浪漫的的关系
11:31
instead measured the deep, romantic,
fulfilling connections people created.
fulfilling connections people created.
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Whatever that was for them, by the way.
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或者别的什么，可能是更好的评估方法
你可以想象整个世界都这样运转吗
11:43
But can you imagine a whole world
that worked this way,
that worked this way,
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11:47
that was helping you spend your time well?
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那会让你更好的分配时间
11:51
Now to do this you also need a new system,
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但是为了实现这个，你需要一个新系统
11:53
because you're probably thinking,
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因为你可能在想
11:54
today's Internet economy --
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今天的网络经济--
11:56
today's economy in general --
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普遍意义上的经济--
11:57
is measured in time spent.
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是以花费的时间来衡量
11:59
The more users you have,
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你有越多的用户
12:01
the more usage you have,
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你的产品就会被使用的越多
12:02
the more time people spend,
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人们花费的时间就越多
12:03
that's how we measure success.
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这就是当下我们如何衡量成功
12:06
But we've solved this problem before.
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但是我们之前已经解决了这个问题
当我们说要用另一种方法去评估的时候
12:09
We solved it with organic,
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12:11
when we said we need
to value things a different way.
to value things a different way.
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我用这个不施化肥的食物举例子
12:14
We said this is a different kind of food.
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这是另一种食物
12:19
So we can't compare it
just based on price;
just based on price;
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我们不能通过价格去比较
12:21
this is a different category of food.
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这是另外一个种类的食物
12:23
We solved it with Leed Certification,
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当我们说这是另外一种建筑时
12:25
where we said this
is a different kind of building
is a different kind of building
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我们通过出示“领先的能源和环境设计证书”去证明
12:29
that stood for different values
of environmental sustainability.
of environmental sustainability.
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这代表了另外一种价值，即环境的可持续发展
如果把这个思想应用到科技领域会怎样？
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What if we had something
like that for technology?
like that for technology?
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如果我们把目标设定为 为人类做出新的有益的贡献
12:39
What if we had something
whose entire purpose and goal
whose entire purpose and goal
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12:44
was to help create net new positive
contributions to human life?
contributions to human life?
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这一切又会怎样？
12:50
And what if we could
value it a different way,
value it a different way,
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如果我们用另一种方式去评估
这一切又会怎样？
12:54
so it would actually work?
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Imagine you gave this different
premium shelf space on app stores.
premium shelf space on app stores.
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设想在苹果应用商城里， 我们专门为这种产品设立一个类别
13:00
Imagine you had web browsers
that helped route you
that helped route you
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设想有一个网站
专门提供这类产品
13:02
to these kinds of design products.
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你能想象建立一个这样的世界有多令人激动吗？
13:07
Can you imagine how exciting it would be
to live and create that world?
to live and create that world?
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We can create this world today.
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我们现在就可以建立这样的世界
13:16
Company leaders, all you have to do --
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公司领袖，你们需要做的就是
只有你们可以发起建立一个新的系统
13:19
only you can prioritize a new metric,
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13:23
which is your metric for net positive
contribution to human life.
contribution to human life.
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一个对人类有益的网络贡献系统
13:27
And have an honest
conversation about that.
conversation about that.
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并诚实的与他人谈论这个
13:29
Maybe you're not
doing so well to start with,
doing so well to start with,
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或许你刚开始会做的不太好
13:31
but let's start that conversation.
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但是开始这种对话是有必要的
13:35
Designers, you can redefine success;
you can redefine design.
you can redefine design.
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设计者，你可以重新定义成功；你可以重新定义设计
13:40
Arguably, you have more power
than many people in your organization
than many people in your organization
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可以说，你比其他人在公司里有更大的能力
13:44
to create the choices
that all of us live by.
that all of us live by.
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去做这个可以影响我们生活质量的选择
或许就像医疗行业
13:48
Maybe like in medicine,
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当给病人治病的时候
13:49
where we have a Hippocratic oath
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我们用希波克拉底誓言
13:51
to recognize the responsibility
and this higher value
and this higher value
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去明确医疗业的责任和最高价值观
13:55
that we have to treat patients.
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就新的设计来说
13:57
What if designers had something like that,
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in terms of this new kind of design?
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如果设计者也有类似的“誓言”， 那又会怎样？
14:02
And users, for all of us --
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我们，这些使用者们
14:04
we can demand technology
that works this way.
that works this way.
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我们可以要求科技领域也采用这个做法
14:09
Now it may seem hard,
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现在这可能很难去做
14:10
but McDonald's didn't have salads
until the consumer demand was there.
until the consumer demand was there.
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直到客户要求沙拉，麦当劳才开始卖沙拉
14:16
Walmart didn't have organic food
until the consumer demand was there.
until the consumer demand was there.
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直到客户要求有机食物，沃尔玛才开始提供有机产品
14:20
We have to demand
this new kind of technology.
this new kind of technology.
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我们需要要求这个新型科技
14:26
And we can do that.
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我们可以做到
14:28
And doing that
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通过这样做
14:29
would amount to shifting
from a world that's driven and run
from a world that's driven and run
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可以使这个完全通过消耗时间
14:33
entirely on time spent,
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来运转的世界
14:37
to world that's driven by time well spent.
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向一个更有效的消耗时间的世界转变
14:43
I want to live in this world,
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我想活在这样的世界
14:45
and I want this conversation to happen.
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我也想开始这个转变
14:48
Let's start that conversation now.
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那么让我们现在就开始行动吧
14:51
Thank you.
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谢谢
14:52
(Applause)
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(掌声）
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Tristan Harris - Design thinkerTristan Harris helps the technology industry more consciously and ethically shape the human spirit and human potential.
Why you should listen
Tristan Harris has been called "the closest thing Silicon Valley has to a conscience" by The Atlantic magazine. Prior to founding the new Center for Humane Technology, he was Google's Design Ethicist, developing a framework for how technology should "ethically" steer the thoughts and actions of billions of people from screens.
Harris has spent a decade understanding the invisible influences that hijack human thinking and action. Drawing on literature from addiction, performative magic, social engineering, persuasive design and behavioral economics, he is currently developing a framework for ethical persuasion, especially as it relates to the moral responsibility of technology companies.
Rolling Stone magazine named Harris one of "25 People Shaping the World" in 2017. His work has been featured on TED, "60 Minutes," HBO's "RealTime with Bill Maher," "PBS NewsHour," Recode, The Atlantic, WIRED, the New York Times, Der Spiegel, The Economist and many more. Harris has briefed heads of state, technology company CEOs and members of the US Congress about the attention economy.
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