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Zachary R. Wood: Why it's worth listening to people you disagree with
Zachary R. Wood: Zakaj je vredno poslušati ljudi, s katerimi se ne strinjamo
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Zachary R. Wood pravi, da postanemo močnejši, ne šibkejši, če prisluhnemo ljudem, s katerimi se ne strinjamo. V pomembnem govoru o iskanju skupnih točk, Wook pokaže, da skozi obzirno in celovito obravnavo problematičnih idej in drugačnih pogledov gradimo empatijo in povečujemo svoje razumevanje. "Ignoriranje nasprotnih mnenj teh ne odstrani", pravi Wood. Da bi dosegli napredek v težavnih okoliščinah, je potrebno iskreno prizadevanje za globlje razumevanja človeštva.
Zachary R. Wood - Crusader for dialogue
As the head of a student group called Uncomfortable Learning, Zachary R. Wood made a point of engaging in conversation with people he disagreed with. Full bio
As the head of a student group called Uncomfortable Learning, Zachary R. Wood made a point of engaging in conversation with people he disagreed with. Full bio
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In 1994,
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Leta 1994
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Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein
coauthored "The Bell Curve,"
coauthored "The Bell Curve,"
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sta Charels Murray in Richard Hernsterin
napisala "The Bell Curve",
napisala "The Bell Curve",
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an extremely controversial book
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zelo kontroverzno knjigo,
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which claims that on average,
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ki trdi, da so v povprečju
nekatere rase pametnejše
in bodo lažje uspele od drugih.
in bodo lažje uspele od drugih.
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some races are smarter
and more likely to succeed than others.
and more likely to succeed than others.
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Murray and Herrnstein also suggest
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Murray in Herrnstein pravita tudi,
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that a lack of critical intelligence
explains the prominence of violent crime
explains the prominence of violent crime
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da je pomanjkanje kritične inteligence
izvor nasilnega kriminala
izvor nasilnega kriminala
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in poor African-American communities.
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v revnih Afro-ameriških skupnostih.
00:39
But Charles Murray and Richard Herrnstein
are not the only people who think this.
are not the only people who think this.
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Ampak Charles Murray in Richard Herrnstein
nista edina, ki tako mislita.
nista edina, ki tako mislita.
00:43
In 2012,
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a writer, journalist and political
commentator named John Derbyshire
commentator named John Derbyshire
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je pisatelj, novinar in
politični komentator John Derbyshire
politični komentator John Derbyshire
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wrote an article that was supposed to be
a non-black version of the talk
a non-black version of the talk
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napisal članek, ki naj bi bil
"ne-temnopolta" verzija nasvetov,
"ne-temnopolta" verzija nasvetov,
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that many black parents feel
they have to give their kids today:
they have to give their kids today:
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ki jih mnogo temnopoltih staršev
danes govori svojim otrokom:
danes govori svojim otrokom:
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advice on how to stay safe.
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nasvet o tem, kako ostati varen.
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In it, he offered suggestions such as:
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V njem predlaga, na primer:
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"Do not attend events
likely to draw a lot of blacks,"
likely to draw a lot of blacks,"
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"Ne obiskujete dogodkov, ki bodo
pritegnili veliko temnopoltih,"
pritegnili veliko temnopoltih,"
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"Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods"
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"izogibajte se
pretežno temnopoltim soseskam"
pretežno temnopoltim soseskam"
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and "Do not act the Good Samaritan
to blacks in distress."
to blacks in distress."
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in "ne igrajte dobrega samaritana
temnopoltim v stiskah."
temnopoltim v stiskah."
01:13
And yet, in 2016,
I invited John Derbyshire
I invited John Derbyshire
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In vendar sem leta 2016
povabil Johna Derbyshira
povabil Johna Derbyshira
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as well as Charles Murray
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kot tudi Charlesa Murraya,
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to speak at my school,
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da bi predavala na moji šoli
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knowing full well that I would
be giving them a platform and attention
be giving them a platform and attention
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s polnim zavedanjem, da jim dajem
prostor in pozornost
prostor in pozornost
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for ideas that I despised and rejected.
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za ideje, ki jih sam preziram in zavračam.
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But this is just a further evolution
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Toda to je le nadaljnji razvoj
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of a journey of uncomfortable learning
throughout my life.
throughout my life.
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poti nelagodnega učenja
skozi moje življenje.
skozi moje življenje.
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When I was 10 years old, my mother
was diagnosed with schizophrenia,
was diagnosed with schizophrenia,
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Ko sem bil star 10 let, so moji mami
diagnosticirali shizofrenijo,
diagnosticirali shizofrenijo,
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a mental illness characterized
by mood swings and paranoid delusions.
by mood swings and paranoid delusions.
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duševno bolezen, za katero sta značilni
nihanje razpoloženja in paranoja.
nihanje razpoloženja in paranoja.
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Throughout my life, my mother's rage
would turn our small house
would turn our small house
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Skozi vse moje življenje je mamin bes
spreminjal našo malo hišo
spreminjal našo malo hišo
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into a minefield.
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v minsko polje.
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Yet, though I feared
her rage on a daily basis,
her rage on a daily basis,
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Čeprav sem se njenega besa
vsakodnevno bal,
vsakodnevno bal,
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I also learned so much from her.
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sem se od nje tudi marsičesa naučil.
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Our relationship was complicated
and challenging,
and challenging,
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Najin odnos je bil zapleten
in poln izzivov.
in poln izzivov.
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and at the age of 14, it was decided
that I needed to live apart from her.
that I needed to live apart from her.
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Ko sem bil star 14 let, je bilo odločeno,
da moram živeti stran od nje.
da moram živeti stran od nje.
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But over the years,
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Vendar sem skozi leta
02:13
I've come to appreciate
some of the important lessons
some of the important lessons
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pričel ceniti nekatere pomembne lekcije,
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my mother taught me about life.
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ki mi jih je dala o življenju.
02:18
She was the first person who spoke to me
about learning from the other side.
about learning from the other side.
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Bila je prva oseba, ki mi je govorila
o učenju z nasprotne strani.
o učenju z nasprotne strani.
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And she, like me, was born and raised
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In ona, kot tudi jaz,
je bila rojena in vzgojena
je bila rojena in vzgojena
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in a family of committed
liberal democrats.
liberal democrats.
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v družini predanih liberalnih demokratov.
02:30
Yet, she encouraged me to see the world
and the issues our world faces
and the issues our world faces
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Vendar me je naučila gledati svet
in probleme s katerimi se sooča
in probleme s katerimi se sooča
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as complex, controversial
and ever-changing.
and ever-changing.
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kot kompleksen, kontroverzen
in neprestano spreminjajoč se prostor.
in neprestano spreminjajoč se prostor.
02:40
One day, I came across
the phrase "affirmative action"
the phrase "affirmative action"
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Nekoč sem naletel na izraz
"pozitivna diskriminacija"
"pozitivna diskriminacija"
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in a book I was reading.
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v knjigi, ki sem jo bral.
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And when I asked her what the term meant,
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Ko sem jo vprašal, kaj izraz pomeni,
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she spent what felt like an hour
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mi je kakšno uro izčrpno
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giving me a thorough
and thoughtful explanation
and thoughtful explanation
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in poglobljeno razlagala na način,
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that would make sense to a small child.
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ki ga je lahko razumel majhen otrok.
02:54
She even made the topic sound
at least as interesting
at least as interesting
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Temo je naredila vsaj tako zanimivo
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as any of my professors have.
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kot katerikoli profesor.
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She explained the many reasons
why people of various political views
why people of various political views
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Razložila mi je razloge
zakaj ljudje različnih političnih pogledov
zakaj ljudje različnih političnih pogledov
nasprotujejo in podpirajo
idejo pozitivne diskriminacije
idejo pozitivne diskriminacije
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challenge and support affirmative action,
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stressing that, while she strongly
supported it herself,
supported it herself,
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in poudarila, da je sama sicer
močna podpornica,
močna podpornica,
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it was important for me to view the issue
as a controversial one
as a controversial one
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vendar je pomembno, da vidim
kontroverznost teme
kontroverznost teme
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with a long history,
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z dolgo zgodovino,
03:17
a questionable future
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vprašljivo prihodnostjo
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and a host of complicating factors.
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in vrsto zapletenih dejavnikov.
03:22
While affirmative action can increase
the presence of minorities
the presence of minorities
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Pozitivna diskriminacija lahko poveča
prisotnost manjšin
prisotnost manjšin
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at elite educational institutions,
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v elitnih izobraževalnih ustanovah,
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she felt that it could also disadvantage
hardworking people of different races
hardworking people of different races
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menila pa je, da lahko tudi škoduje
delovnim ljudem različnih ras
delovnim ljudem različnih ras
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from more affluent backgrounds.
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iz bolj bogatih družin.
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My mom wanted me to understand
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Moja mama je želela, da bi razumel,
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that I should never
just write off opinions
just write off opinions
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da ne smem nikoli odpisati mnenj,
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that I disagreed with or disliked,
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s katerimi se ne strinjam,
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because there was always something
to learn from the perspectives of others,
to learn from the perspectives of others,
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ker se lahko iz perspektive drugega
vedno kaj naučimo,
vedno kaj naučimo,
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even when doing so might be difficult.
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čeprav je to včasih težko.
03:53
But life at home with my mom
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Življenje doma z mojo mamo
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was not the only aspect of my journey
that has been formative and uncomfortable.
that has been formative and uncomfortable.
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ni bil edini del moje poti, ki je name
zelo vplival in je bil hkrati nelagoden.
zelo vplival in je bil hkrati nelagoden.
04:01
In fourth grade, she decided
that I should attend a private school
that I should attend a private school
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V četrtem razredu se je odločila,
da bi moral hoditi na privatno šolo,
da bi moral hoditi na privatno šolo,
04:05
in order to receive
the best education possible.
the best education possible.
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kjer bi lahko dobil
najboljšo možno izobrazbo.
najboljšo možno izobrazbo.
04:08
As a black student attending
predominantly white private schools,
predominantly white private schools,
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Bil sem eden redkih temnopoltih učencev
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I've encountered attitudes and behaviors
that reflected racial stereotypes.
that reflected racial stereotypes.
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in srečeval sem se z rasnimi stereotipi.
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Several of my friends' parents
assumed within minutes of meeting me
assumed within minutes of meeting me
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Veliko staršev mojih prijateljev
je predvidevalo, ko so me spoznali,
je predvidevalo, ko so me spoznali,
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that my best skill was playing basketball.
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da je moje najmočnejša spretnost
igranje košarke.
igranje košarke.
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And it really upset me to think
that my race made it harder for them
that my race made it harder for them
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Res me je jezilo to,
da so me zaradi moje rase
da so me zaradi moje rase
04:28
to see me as a student who loved
reading, writing and speaking.
reading, writing and speaking.
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težje videli kot študenta,
ki rad bere, piše in govori.
ki rad bere, piše in govori.
04:32
Experiences like this motivated me
to work tirelessly
to work tirelessly
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Take izkušnje so me motivirale
k trdemu delu,
k trdemu delu,
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to disprove what I knew
people had assumed.
people had assumed.
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da sem lahko dokazal nasprotno
od splošnega predvidevanja.
od splošnega predvidevanja.
04:42
My mother even said that,
in order to put my best foot forward,
in order to put my best foot forward,
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Moja mama mi je tudi rekla,
če se hočem zares potruditi,
če se hočem zares potruditi,
04:46
I had to be patient, alert
and excruciatingly well-mannered.
and excruciatingly well-mannered.
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moram biti potrpežljiv, pozoren
in se moram brezhibno obnašati.
in se moram brezhibno obnašati.
04:50
To prove that I belonged,
I had to show poise and confidence,
I had to show poise and confidence,
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Da bi dokazal, da spadam mednje, sem moral
izkazati uravnovešenost in samozavest,
izkazati uravnovešenost in samozavest,
04:54
the ability to speak well
and listen closely.
and listen closely.
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sposobnost govorništva
in sposobnost dobrega poslušalca.
in sposobnost dobrega poslušalca.
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Only then would my peers see
that I deserved to be there
that I deserved to be there
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Šele takrat bodo moji vrstniki videli,
da si zaslužim biti tam,
da si zaslužim biti tam,
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as much as they did.
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tako kot oni.
05:02
Despite this racial stereotyping
and the discomfort I often felt,
and the discomfort I often felt,
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Kljub rasnim predsodkom
in nelagodju, ki sem ga pogosto čutil,
in nelagodju, ki sem ga pogosto čutil,
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the learning I gained from other aspects
of being at an elite private school
of being at an elite private school
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je bilo učenje, ki sem ga prejel
z drugih vidikov obiskovanja elitne šole
z drugih vidikov obiskovanja elitne šole
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were incredibly valuable.
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neverjetno dragoceno.
05:14
I was encouraged by my teachers
to explore my curiosity,
to explore my curiosity,
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Učitelji so me spodbujali
v moji radovednosti,
v moji radovednosti,
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to challenge myself in new ways
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da sem se preizkušal na nove načine
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and to deepen my understanding
of subjects that fascinated me the most.
of subjects that fascinated me the most.
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in se izpopolnjeval v razumevanju
predmetov, ki so me najbolj zanimali.
predmetov, ki so me najbolj zanimali.
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And going to college was the next step.
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Vpis na fakulteto je bil naslednji korak.
05:30
I was excited to take my intellectual
drive and interest in the world of ideas
drive and interest in the world of ideas
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Veselil sem se, da bom svojo intelektualno
lakoto in zanimanja v svetu idej
lakoto in zanimanja v svetu idej
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to the next level.
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popeljal na višjo raven.
05:35
I was eager to engage in lively debate
with peers and professors
with peers and professors
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Komaj sem čakal živahnih razprav
z vrstniki in profesorji
z vrstniki in profesorji
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and with outside speakers;
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ter z zunanjimi predavatelji;
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to listen, to learn and gain
a deeper understanding of myself
a deeper understanding of myself
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poslušanja, učenja in globljega
spoznavanja sebe
spoznavanja sebe
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and of others.
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in drugih.
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While I was fortunate to meet
peers and professors
peers and professors
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Čeprav sem imel srečo spoznati
vrstnike in profesorje
vrstnike in profesorje
05:51
who were interested
in doing the same thing,
in doing the same thing,
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ki so jih zanimale enake stvari,
05:54
my desire to engage with difficult ideas
was also met with resistance.
was also met with resistance.
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pa je moja želja soočati se s težavnimi
idejami, naletela tudi na odpor.
idejami, naletela tudi na odpor.
06:00
To prepare myself to engage
with controversy in the real world,
with controversy in the real world,
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Da bi se pripravil na spopad
s kontroverznostjo v resničnem svetu,
s kontroverznostjo v resničnem svetu,
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I joined a group that brought
controversial speakers to campus.
controversial speakers to campus.
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sem se pridružil skupini, ki je na šolo
vabila kontroverzne govornike.
vabila kontroverzne govornike.
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But many people fiercely
opposed this group,
opposed this group,
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Toda mnogo ljudi je
močno nasprotovalo tej skupini,
močno nasprotovalo tej skupini,
06:12
and I received significant pushback
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deležen sem bil zelo negativnega odziva
06:14
from students, faculty
and my administration.
and my administration.
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s strani študentov, fakultete in uprave.
06:20
For many, it was difficult to see
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Mnogi niso mogli razumeti
06:23
how bringing controversial
speakers to campus could be valuable,
speakers to campus could be valuable,
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kako bi bilo lahko poslušanje
teh govornikov dragoceno,
teh govornikov dragoceno,
06:26
when they caused harm.
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če pa so povzročali škodo.
06:28
And it was disappointing to me
facing personal attacks,
facing personal attacks,
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Doživljal sem osebne napade
in bil razočaran,
in bil razočaran,
06:32
having my administration cancel speakers
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ko je uprava odpovedala nastope
teh govorcev
teh govorcev
06:34
and hearing my intentions
distorted by those around me.
distorted by those around me.
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in ko so ljudje okoli mene
napačno razlagali moje namene.
napačno razlagali moje namene.
06:39
My work also hurt the feelings of many,
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Moje delo je prizadelo marsikoga,
06:42
and I understood that.
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to sem razumel.
06:45
Of course, no one likes being offended,
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Seveda nihče ne mara, da ga žalijo
06:47
and I certainly don't like hearing
controversial speakers
controversial speakers
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in sam zagotovo ne maram poslušati
problematičnih govornikov,
problematičnih govornikov,
06:50
argue that feminism has become
a war against men
a war against men
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ki trdijo, da je feminizem postal
vojna proti moškim
vojna proti moškim
06:54
or that blacks have lower IQs than whites.
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ali, da imajo temnopolti
nižji IQ od belcev.
nižji IQ od belcev.
06:57
I also understand
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Razumem tudi,
06:59
that some people have experienced
traumatic experiences in their lives.
traumatic experiences in their lives.
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da so nekateri ljudje doživeli
travmatične izkušnje v svojih življenjih.
travmatične izkušnje v svojih življenjih.
07:05
And for some, listening to offensive views
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Za nekatere lahko poslušanje
žaljivih stališč pomeni
žaljivih stališč pomeni
07:08
can be like reliving the very traumas
that they've worked so hard to overcome.
that they've worked so hard to overcome.
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ponovno doživljanje travm, za preseganje
katerih so se morali zelo potruditi.
katerih so se morali zelo potruditi.
07:13
Many argue that by giving
these people a platform,
these people a platform,
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Mnogi trdijo, da s tem, ko ponudiš
prostor tem ljudem,
prostor tem ljudem,
07:16
you're doing more harm than good,
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delaš več škode kot koristi.
07:18
and I'm reminded of this every time
I listen to these points of view
I listen to these points of view
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Vsakič se spomnim na to,
ko poslušam taka stališča
ko poslušam taka stališča
07:22
and feel my stomach turn.
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in čutim, kako se mi obrača želodec.
07:25
Yet, tuning out opposing viewpoints
doesn't make them go away,
doesn't make them go away,
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Pa vendar, ignoriranje nasprotnih mnenj,
teh ne odstrani,
teh ne odstrani,
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because millions of people
agree with them.
agree with them.
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saj se milijoni ljudi strinjajo z njimi.
07:31
In order to understand
the potential of society
the potential of society
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Da bi razumeli potencial družbe,
07:33
to progress forward,
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da bi napredovali,
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we need to understand the counterforces.
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moramo razumeti tudi nasprotne sile.
07:39
By engaging with controversial
and offensive ideas,
and offensive ideas,
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Če se posvetimo
problematičnim in žaljivim idejam,
problematičnim in žaljivim idejam,
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I believe that we can find common ground,
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verjamem, da bomo
lahko našli skupno točko,
lahko našli skupno točko,
07:46
if not with the speakers themselves,
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če ne z govorci samimi,
07:49
then with the audiences
they may attract or indoctrinate.
they may attract or indoctrinate.
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pa z njihovim občinstvom.
07:53
Through engaging, I believe
that we may reach a better understanding,
that we may reach a better understanding,
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Verjamem, da lahko na ta način
pridemo do boljšega razumevanja,
pridemo do boljšega razumevanja,
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a deeper understanding,
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globljega razumevanja
08:00
of our own beliefs
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naših prepričanj
08:01
and preserve the ability
to solve problems,
to solve problems,
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in da ohranimo sposobnost
reševanja problemov,
reševanja problemov,
08:05
which we can't do
if we don't talk to each other
if we don't talk to each other
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kar ni mogoče,
če se ne pogovarjamo med seboj
če se ne pogovarjamo med seboj
08:08
and make an effort to be good listeners.
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in se ne potrudimo biti dobri poslušalci.
08:12
But soon after I announced
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Toda kmalu po naznanitvi,
08:13
that John Derbyshire
would be speaking on campus,
would be speaking on campus,
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da bo John Derbyshire predaval na kampusu,
08:16
student backlash erupted on social media.
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je na družabnih omrežjih študentov
izbruhnil močen odpor.
izbruhnil močen odpor.
08:19
The tide of resistance,
in fact, was so intense,
in fact, was so intense,
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Odpor je bil tako velik,
08:22
that my college president
rescinded the invitation.
rescinded the invitation.
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da je vodstvo fakultete
preklicalo povabilo.
preklicalo povabilo.
08:25
I was deeply disappointed by this
because, as I saw it,
because, as I saw it,
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Zelo sem bil razočaran, ker se mi zdi,
08:28
there would be nothing
that any of my peers or I could do
that any of my peers or I could do
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da ne bomo mogli storiti ničesar,
ne jaz, ne moji vrstniki,
ne jaz, ne moji vrstniki,
08:32
to silence someone who agreed with him
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da bi ustavili nekoga,
ki se strinja z njim,
ki se strinja z njim,
08:34
in the office environment
of our future employers.
of our future employers.
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v pisarnah naših bodočih delodajalcev.
08:38
I look out at what's happening
on college campuses,
on college campuses,
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Ko gledam kaj se dogaja na kampusih,
08:41
and I see the anger.
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vidim jezo.
08:42
And I get it.
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Razumem jo.
08:44
But what I wish I could tell people
is that it's worth the discomfort,
is that it's worth the discomfort,
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Rad pa bi povedal ljudem,
da je vredno nelagodja,
da je vredno nelagodja,
08:48
it's worth listening,
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da je vredno poslušati
08:49
and that we're stronger,
not weaker, because of it.
not weaker, because of it.
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in da smo zaradi tega močnejši,
ne šibkejši.
ne šibkejši.
08:54
When I think about my experiences
with uncomfortable learning,
with uncomfortable learning,
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Ko pomislim na svoje izkušnje
z nelagodnim učenjem
z nelagodnim učenjem
08:59
and I reflect upon them,
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in ko razmišljam o njih,
09:02
I've found that it's been very difficult
to change the values
to change the values
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ugotavljam, da je zelo težko
spreminjati vrednote
spreminjati vrednote
09:06
of the intellectual community
that I've been a part of.
that I've been a part of.
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intelektualne skupnosti,
ki ji pripadam.
ki ji pripadam.
09:10
But I do feel a sense of hope
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Vendar čutim upanje,
09:12
when I think about the individual
interactions that I've been able to have
interactions that I've been able to have
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ko pomislim na svoja sodelovanja
09:15
with students who both support
the work that I'm doing
the work that I'm doing
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s študenti, ki podpirajo moje delo
09:18
and who feel challenged by it
and who do not support it.
and who do not support it.
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in s tistimi, ki mi nasprotujejo.
09:23
What I've found is that,
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Ugotovil sem,
09:24
while it can be difficult to change
the values of a community,
the values of a community,
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da je sicer težko
spremeniti vrednote skupnosti,
spremeniti vrednote skupnosti,
09:27
we can gain a lot
from individual interactions.
from individual interactions.
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lahko pa veliko pridobimo
preko sodelovanja s posamezniki.
preko sodelovanja s posamezniki.
09:31
While I didn't get to engage
with John Derbyshire
with John Derbyshire
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Čeprav nisem dobil priložnosti
pogovora z Johnom Derbyshirem
pogovora z Johnom Derbyshirem
09:34
due to my president's disinvitation,
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saj je bilo vabilo preklicano
09:36
I was able to have dinner
with Charles Murray before his talk.
with Charles Murray before his talk.
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pa sem večerjal s Charlesom Murrayem
pred njegovim nastopom.
pred njegovim nastopom.
09:42
I knew the conversation
would be difficult.
would be difficult.
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Vedel sem, da bo najin pogovor naporen.
09:44
And I didn't expect it to be pleasant.
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Nisem pričakoval, da bo prijeten.
09:47
But it was cordial, and I did gain
a deeper understanding of his arguments.
a deeper understanding of his arguments.
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Vendar je bil srčen in zdaj bolje
razumem njegove argumente.
razumem njegove argumente.
09:53
I found that he, like me,
believed in creating a more just society.
believed in creating a more just society.
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Ugotovil sem, da verjame v ustvarjanje
pravičnejše družbe, tako kot jaz.
pravičnejše družbe, tako kot jaz.
09:58
The thing is, his understanding
of what justice entailed
of what justice entailed
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Toda najino razumevanje pravičnosti
10:02
was very different from my own.
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se je zelo razlikovalo.
10:04
The way in which he wanted
to understand the issue,
to understand the issue,
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Tudi način na katerega razume
10:07
the way in which he wanted
to approach the issue of inequality
to approach the issue of inequality
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in se loteva
problema neenakosti
problema neenakosti
10:10
also differed from my own.
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je drugačen od mojega.
10:12
And I found that his understanding
of issues like welfare
of issues like welfare
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Ugotovil sem, da je
njegovo pojmovanje blaginje
njegovo pojmovanje blaginje
10:15
and affirmative action
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in pozitivne diskriminacije
10:17
was tied and deeply rooted
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povezano in zakoreninjeno
v njegovem razumevanju različnih
libertarnih in konzervativnih prepričanj
libertarnih in konzervativnih prepričanj
10:19
in his understanding of various
libertarian and conservative beliefs,
libertarian and conservative beliefs,
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10:23
what diminishes and increases
their presence in our society.
their presence in our society.
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glede tega, kaj povečuje
in zmanjšuje njuno prisotnost v družbi.
in zmanjšuje njuno prisotnost v družbi.
10:27
While he expressed
his viewpoints eloquently,
his viewpoints eloquently,
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Čeprav je spretno zagovarjal
svoja stališča,
svoja stališča,
10:30
I remained thoroughly unconvinced.
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me ni prepričal.
10:32
But I did walk away
with a deeper understanding.
with a deeper understanding.
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Sem pa odšel z globljim razumevanjem.
10:36
It's my belief
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Verjamem,
10:39
that to achieve progress
in the face of adversity,
in the face of adversity,
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da je za napredek v težavah
10:43
we need a genuine commitment
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potrebno iskreno prizadevanje
10:46
to gaining a deeper
understanding of humanity.
understanding of humanity.
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za večje razumevanja človeštva.
10:50
I'd like to see a world with more leaders
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Rad bi živel v svetu z več voditelji
10:52
who are familiar with
the depths of the views
the depths of the views
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ki v globino poznajo stališča
10:54
of those they deeply disagree with,
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tistih, ki jim nasprotujejo,
10:58
so that they can understand the nuances
of everyone they're representing.
of everyone they're representing.
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da potem lahko razumejo odtenke vseh,
ki jih predstavljajo.
ki jih predstavljajo.
11:03
I see this as an ongoing process
involving constant learning,
involving constant learning,
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To vidim kot nenehen proces,
ki vključuje neprestano učenje,
ki vključuje neprestano učenje,
11:07
and I'm confident that I'll be able
to add value down the line
to add value down the line
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in prepričan sem, da bom lahko
nekaj prispeval k temu procesu,
nekaj prispeval k temu procesu,
11:11
if I continue building empathy
and understanding
and understanding
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če bom nadaljeval s spodbujanjem
empatije in razumevanja
empatije in razumevanja
11:13
through engaging
with unfamiliar perspectives.
with unfamiliar perspectives.
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skozi soočanje s tujimi perspektivami.
11:16
Thank you.
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Hvala.
11:17
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Zachary R. Wood - Crusader for dialogueAs the head of a student group called Uncomfortable Learning, Zachary R. Wood made a point of engaging in conversation with people he disagreed with.
Why you should listen
Zachary R. Wood wants to encourage open conversations about hard topics. He is a Robert L. Bartley Fellow at The Wall Street Journal and a class of 2018 graduate of Williams College, where he served as president of Uncomfortable Learning, a student group that sparked national controversy for inviting provocative speakers to campus, from John Derbyshire to Charles Murray. Wood's defense of such conversations led him to give Senate testimony in the summer of 2017.
His recent writing has appeared in The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The Huffington Post, The Nation, The Weekly Standard, Times Higher Education, Inside Higher Ed, Jet and SLAM Magazine. In 2018, he'll publish Uncensored, a book that tells his own personal story to enrich and deepen his work as an advocate for difficult conversations. You can reach him at zachwood2448@gmail.com.
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