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David Whyte - Poet, author
David Whyte writes at the intersection of interior and exterior worlds, what he calls the conversational nature of reality, bringing new territory into view with his distinctly personal style.

Why you should listen

David Whyte grew up amid the grounded practicalities of Yorkshire, England, of a very imaginative, storytelling Irish mother. Not choosing between these two sides is what perhaps gave him his first insight into the complexities of human identity. He is quoted as saying that all of his poetry and philosophy is based on what he calls "the conversational nature of reality." His time as a scientist and naturalist fuide in the Galapagos Islands led him to explore what he calls the frontier nature of human identity. Whyte draws from this diverse background and a deep philosophical curiosity to craft poetry and prose that is at once highly relatable, yet altogether new. His work spans the worlds of literature, philosophy and organizational leadership, making him a clear, wise voice in an increasingly complex world. 

His books include The Sea in You: Twenty Poems of Requited and Unrequited Love; The Three Marriages: Reimagining Work, Self and Relationship; River Flow: New & Selected Poems; Consolations: The Solace, Nourishment and Underlying Meaning of Everyday Words and Pilgrim.

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David Whyte: A lyrical bridge between past, present and future

大卫·怀特 David Whyte: 过去，现在，未来之间的诗歌的桥梁

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大卫怀特以他独特的魅力和洞察力，在过去，未来，和未来的前沿冥想，为大家分享了两首他受侄女在西班牙的圣地亚哥-德孔波斯特拉徒步旅行启发而创作的诗歌。
- Poet, author
David Whyte writes at the intersection of interior and exterior worlds, what he calls the conversational nature of reality, bringing new territory into view with his distinctly personal style. Full bio

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The youthful青春的 perspective透视 on the future未来,
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用年轻人的眼光来看待未来，
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the present当下 perspective透视 on the future未来
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用当前的眼光来看待未来，
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and the future未来, mature成熟
perspective透视 on the future未来 --
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用成熟的眼光来看待未来
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I'd like to try and bring带来
all those three三 tenses时态 together一起
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今天晚上，我会尝试去把这三个时态放在
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in one identity身分 tonight今晚.
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同一个个体上
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And you could say
that the poet诗人, in many许多 ways方法,
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你可以用很多不同的方法说那是一个诗人，
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looks容貌 at what I call
"the conversational对话的 nature性质 of reality现实."
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看到了“现实的对话本质”
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And you ask问 yourself你自己:
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你可以问自己
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What is the conversational对话的
nature性质 of reality现实?
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什么是现实的对话本质
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The conversational对话的 nature性质
of reality现实 is the fact事实
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事实上，现实的对话本质是
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that whatever随你 you desire欲望 of the world世界 --
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不论你对这个世界有何渴望--
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whatever随你 you desire欲望 of your partner伙伴
in a marriage婚姻 or a love relationship关系,
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不论你对婚姻或者爱情对你的伴侣有何渴望，
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whatever随你 you desire欲望 of your children孩子,
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不论你对你的小孩有何渴望，
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whatever随你 you desire欲望 of the people
who work for you or with you,
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不论你对跟你工作或者为你工作的人有何渴望
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or your world世界 --
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或者是你的世界
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will not happen发生 exactly究竟
as you would like it to happen发生.
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不会跟你想像的完全一样地实现
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But equally一样,
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但公平地说
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whatever随你 the world世界 desires欲望 of us --
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世界对我们的渴望
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whatever随你 our partner伙伴,
our child儿童, our colleague同事,
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我们的伴侣，小孩，同事
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our industry行业,
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工作，
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our future未来 demands需要 of us,
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未来对我们的需求
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will also也 not happen发生.
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也并不会都得到实现
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And what actually其实 happens发生
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其实真正发生的
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is this frontier边境
between之间 what you think is you
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是一个前沿，是“你认为的你”
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and what you think is not you.
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和那个“你认为不是你的你”的边界地
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And this frontier边境 of actual实际 meeting会议
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这个边境的相遇
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between之间 what we call a self自
and what we call the world世界
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我们所谓的自我， 所谓的世界
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is the only place地点, actually其实,
where things are real真实.
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两者相交的边界才是唯一真实的地方
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But it's quite相当 astonishing惊人,
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但非常惊人的是
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how little time we spend花
at this conversational对话的 frontier边境,
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我们在这个对话边界上话的时间太少了
01:43
and not abstracted抽象 away from it
in one strategy战略 or another另一个.
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没有用这样那样的策略来从中抽取什么
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I was coming未来 through通过 immigration移民,
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我是移民來的
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which哪一个 is quite相当 a dramatic戏剧性
border边境 at the moment时刻,
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当时是很富有戏剧化的边境
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into the US last year年,
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去年到了美國
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and, you know, you get off
an international国际 flight飞行
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及想必你也知道，当由国际航班起程
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across横过 the Atlantic大西洋,
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飞越大西洋
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and you're not in the best最好 place地点;
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你不是在最好的地方
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you're not at your most最
spiritually灵性 mature成熟.
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你的心智也不是处于最佳状态
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You're quite相当 impatient不耐烦
with the rest休息 of humanity人性, in fact事实.
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事实上你没耐心关心他人
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So when you get up to immigration移民
with your shirt衬衫 collar领 out
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所以当你衣领不整地去见移民官
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and a day's天 growth发展 of beard胡子,
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一天都没刮胡子
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and you have very little patience忍耐,
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你有点不耐烦
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and the immigration移民 officer官
looked看着 at my passport护照
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移民官看了你的护照
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and said, "What do you do, Mr先生. Whyte怀特?"
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问："Whyte先生，你是从事什么工作的？
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I said, "I work with the conversational对话的
nature性质 of reality现实."
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我回答："我是搞现实的对话本质工作的"
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(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
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And he leaned凑近 forward前锋 over his podium讲台
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他向前靠了一下
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and he said, "I needed需要 you last night."
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说：“我昨晚需要你。”
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(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
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(Applause掌声)
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（掌声）
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And I said, "I'm sorry,
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我说：“对不起，
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my powers权力 as a poet诗人
and philosopher哲学家 only go so far远.
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诗人和哲学家的能力是有限的
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I'm not sure I can --"
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恐怕我帮不上忙。。。”
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But before we knew知道 it,
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但不知不觉
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we were into a conversation会话
about his marriage婚姻.
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我们聊起了他的婚姻
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Here he was in his uniform制服,
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他穿着制服
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and the interesting有趣 thing was,
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有趣的是
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he was looking up and down
the row行 of officers长官
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他不停打量着整排的移民官们，
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to make sure his supervisor监 didn't see
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确保他的上司没看见他
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that we was having有 a real真实 conversation会话.
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正在进行一次真实的交流
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But all of us live生活
at this conversational对话的 frontier边境
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但我们所有人都生活在这个
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with the future未来.
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与未来的交谈边界上。
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I'd like to put you in the shoes鞋
of my Irish爱尔兰的 niece侄女,
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我希望在座各位想象成是我的爱尔兰侄女
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Marlene马琳 McCormack麦科马克,
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Marlene McCormack,
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standing常设 on a cliff悬崖 edge边缘
on the western西 coast滨 of Spain西班牙,
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站在西班牙西岸的悬崖边，
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overlooking俯瞰 the broad广阔 Atlantic大西洋.
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眺望着广大的大西洋
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Twenty-three二十三 years年份 old旧,
she's just walked走 500 miles英里
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她二十三岁，刚走了500英里
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from Saint圣 Jean吉恩 Pied斑驳的 de德 Port港口
on the French法国 side侧 of the Pyrenees比利牛斯,
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从位在庇里牛斯山法国那一面的圣让皮耶德波尔，
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all the way across横过 Northern北方 Spain西班牙,
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一路走到西班牙北部，
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on this very famous著名,
old旧 and contemporary现代的 pilgrimage朝圣
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这是一趟非常著名、古老、现代的朝圣之旅
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called叫 the Camino卡米诺 de德 Santiago圣地亚哥
de德 Compostela孔波斯特拉 --
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西班牙文叫「Camino de Santiago de Compostela」
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the Path路径 to Santiago圣地亚哥 of Compostela孔波斯特拉.
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意思是：通往康波斯特拉之圣雅各的道路
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And when you get to Santiago圣地亚哥, actually其实,
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事实上当你到了圣雅各，
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it can be something of an anticlimax虎头蛇尾,
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你可能感到有些扫兴
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because there are 100,000
people living活的 there
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因为这里有100,000人居住
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who are not necessarily一定 applauding鼓掌 you
as you're coming未来 into town镇.
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他们不会对你夹道欢迎
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(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
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And 10,000 of them are trying试 to sell卖 you
a memento纪念 of your journey旅程.
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其中10000人会向你推销这趟旅行的纪念品
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But you do have the possibility可能性
of going on for three三 more days天
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但你很有机会在未来三天继续
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to this place地点 where Marlene马琳 stood站在,
called叫, in Spanish西班牙语, Finisterre菲尼斯泰尔,
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去到這Marlene站立的地方，在西班牙文称为菲尼斯泰爾，
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in English英语, Finisterre菲尼斯泰尔,
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英文称作菲尼斯泰尔，
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from the Latin拉丁,
meaning含义 "the ends结束 of the earth地球,"
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拉丁文意思为"地球的尽头"
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the place地点 where ground地面 turns圈 to ocean海洋;
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一个由陆地连接到海洋的地方；
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the place地点 where your present当下
turns圈 into the future未来.
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一个帮你从现在转变为未来的地方。
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And Marlene马琳 had walked走 this way --
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而玛琳走过了这段路–
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she just graduated毕业 as a 23-year-old-岁
from the University大学 of Sligo斯莱戈
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她23岁， 刚从斯莱戈大学毕业，
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with a degree度 in Irish爱尔兰的 drama戏剧.
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取得了爱尔兰戏剧学位。
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And she said to me, "I don't think
the major重大的 corporations公司 of the world世界
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她对我说：我不认为世界上的大企业
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will be knocking敲门 on my door门."
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会找上我的门来。
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I said, "Listen, I've worked工作
in corporations公司 all over the world世界
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我说：听着，我数十年来曾在全世界的
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for decades几十年;
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大企业中工作；
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a degree度 in drama戏剧 is what would most最
prepare准备 you for the adult成人 --
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戏剧的学位为你进入成人世界做好了最好的准备
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(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
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corporate企业 world世界."
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企业世界。
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(Applause掌声)
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（掌声）
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But she said, "I'm not
interested有兴趣 in that, anyway无论如何.
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但她说：反正我对那也没有兴趣。
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I don't want to teach教 drama戏剧,
I want to become成为 a dramatist剧作家.
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我不想要教戏剧，我想要成为剧作家。
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I want to write写 plays播放.
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我想要写剧本。
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So I walked走 the Camino卡米诺
in order订购 to give myself我 some courage勇气,
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所以我走了圣雅各的道路，想给我自己一些勇气，
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in order订购 to walk步行 into my future未来."
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才能走入我的未来。
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And I said, "What was the most最 powerful强大
moment时刻 you had on the whole整个 Camino卡米诺,
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我说：在圣雅各的道路上，你经历到最强大
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the very most最 powerful强大 moment时刻?"
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的时刻是什么？
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She said, "I had many许多 powerful强大 moments瞬间,
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她说：有许多强大的时刻，
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but you know, the most最 powerful强大
moment时刻 was post-Camino后卡米诺,
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但，最强大的时刻是在走完圣雅各的道路之后，
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was the three三 days天 you go on from Santiago圣地亚哥
and come to this cliff悬崖 edge边缘.
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是从圣雅各到那悬崖边缘的那三天。
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And you go through通过 three三 rituals仪式.
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你要经过三个仪式。
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The first ritual仪式 is to eat吃
a tapas小吃 plate盘子 of scallops扇贝" --
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第一个仪式是要吃一小盘扇贝肉
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or if you're vegetarian素,
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如果你吃素，
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to contemplate沉思 the scallop扇贝 shell贝壳.
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那就凝视着扇贝壳就好。
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(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
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Because the scallop扇贝 shell贝壳 has been
the icon图标 and badge徽章 of your walk步行,
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因为扇贝壳是你这段步行的象征和标记，
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and every一切 arrow箭头
that you have seen看到 along沿 that way
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而你一路上所见到的每一个箭头，
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has been pointing指点 underneath下
a scallop扇贝 shell贝壳.
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都是放在一个扇贝壳的下方。
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So really, this first ritual仪式 is saying话:
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所以，其实第一个仪式在说的是：
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How did you get to this place地点?
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你怎么到达这个地方的？
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How did you follow跟随 the path路径 to get here?
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你怎么循着路到达这里的？
05:56
How do you hold保持 the conversation会话 of life
when you feel unbesiegedunbesieged,
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当在没有被人围绕时，没有被欺负时，独自一人时，
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when you're unbulliedunbullied,
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你如何跟自己进行
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when you're left to yourself你自己?
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人生的谈话？
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How do you hold保持 the conversation会话 of life
that brings带来 you to this place地点?
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你如何跟那个把你带到此地的人生谈话？
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And the second第二 ritual仪式 is that you burn烧伤
something that you've brought带.
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而第二个仪式，是你要把你带来的某样东西烧掉。
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I said, "What did you burn烧伤, Marlene马琳?"
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我说：“玛琳，你烧掉了什么？”
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She said, "I burned烧 a letter信
and two postcards明信片."
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她说：“我烧掉了一封信和两张明信片。”
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I said, "Astonishing惊人.
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我说：“好惊人。
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Twenty-three二十三 years年份 old旧 and you have paper纸.
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23 岁的人会带纸。
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I can't believe it."
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我都不敢相信。 ”
06:25
(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
06:26
I'm sure there's a Camino卡米诺 app应用
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我相信一定有圣雅各道路 app，
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where you can just delete删除
a traumatic创伤 text文本, you know?
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让你可以删除创伤性文字，你知道吗？
06:32
(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
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It will engage从事 the flashlight手电筒,
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它会配上闪光，
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imbue渐 it with color颜色
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充满了颜色，
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and disappear消失 in a firework焰火 of flames火焰.
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在火焰中当中消失。
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But you either或 bring带来 a letter信
or you write写 one there,
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但你若没有带信到那里，你可以在那里写一封，
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and you burn烧伤 it.
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然后烧掉它。
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And of course课程 we know intuitively直观地
what is on those letters信 and postcards明信片.
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当然，我们凭直觉都知道信上和明信片上写的是什么。
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It's a form形成 of affection感情 and love
that is now no longer长 extant现存, yeah?
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是现在已经不复存在的感情与爱的一种形式，对吗？
06:58
And then the third第三 ritual仪式:
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接着，第三个仪式：
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between之间 all these fires火灾
are large大 piles痔 of clothes衣服.
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在这些火当中的是大堆大堆的衣物。
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And you leave离开 an item项目 of clothing服装
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你留下一件帮你抵达
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that has helped帮助 you to get to this place地点.
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这个地方的衣着物品。
07:12
And I said to Marlene马琳,
"What did you leave离开 at the cliff悬崖 edge边缘?"
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我对玛琳说：“你在悬崖边缘留下了什么？”
07:15
She said, "I left my boots靴子 --
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她说：我留下了我的靴子–
07:16
the very things
that I walked走 in, actually其实.
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就是我穿着走到那里的靴子。
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They were beautiful美丽 boots靴子,
I loved喜爱 those boots靴子,
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那双靴子很漂亮，我很爱它，
07:21
but they were finished完
after seven七 weeks周 of walking步行.
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但经过七周的行走之后，它已经没用了。
07:24
So I walked走 away in my trainers培训师,
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所以我穿着运动鞋离开，
07:25
but I left my boots靴子 there."
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把我的靴子留在那里。
07:27
She said, "It was really incredible难以置信.
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她说：那真的很难以置信。
07:29
The most最 powerful强大 moment时刻 was,
the sun太阳 was going down,
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最强大的时刻是太阳西下，
07:33
but the full充分 moon月亮 was coming未来 up behind背后 me.
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但满月却从我后面升起。
07:37
And the full充分 moon月亮 was illuminated发光的
by the dying垂死 sun太阳 in such这样 a powerful强大 way
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而满月被落日用一种很强大的方式给照亮，
07:42
that even after the sun太阳
had dropped下降 below下面 the horizon地平线,
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即使太阳已经落到地平线之下，
07:45
the moon月亮 could still see that sun太阳.
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月亮仍然能够看见太阳。
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And I had a moon月亮 shadow阴影,
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而我有个月影，
07:52
and I was looking at my moon月亮 shadow阴影
walking步行 across横过 the Atlantic大西洋,
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我看着这个被月亮照出的影子走过大西洋，
07:57
across横过 this ocean海洋.
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走过这海洋。
07:59
And I thought,
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我心想：
08:00
'Oh! That's my new新 self自
going into the future未来.'
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『喔！那就是我的新自我，走入未来。 』
08:03
But suddenly突然 I realized实现
the sun太阳 was falling落下 further进一步.
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但，突然间，我发现到，太阳又落下更多。
08:09
The moon月亮 was losing失去 its reflection反射,
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月亮失去了它的反射，
08:13
and my shadow阴影 was disappearing消失.
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而我的影子消失了。
08:15
The most最 powerful强大 moment时刻
I had on the whole整个 Camino卡米诺
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我在这整段道路上经历到最强大的时刻，
08:18
was when I realized实现 I myself我
had to walk步行 across横过 that unknown未知 sea海
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就是当我了解到，我自己需要走过这个未知的海洋，
08:24
into my future未来."
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走入了我的未来。
08:27
Well, I was so taken采取 by this story故事,
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我对这个故事非常着迷，
08:29
I wrote写 this piece片 for her.
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我为她写了这个作品。
08:31
We were driving主动 at the time;
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当时我们在开车，
08:32
we got home, I satSAT on the couch长椅,
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我们回到家，我坐在沙发上，
08:34
I wrote写 until直到 two in the morning早上 --
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我一直写到半夜两点–
08:36
everyone大家 had gone走了 to bed床 --
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每个人都入睡了–
08:37
and I gave给 it to Marlene马琳
at breakfast早餐 time.
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我在早餐的时候把它给了玛琳。
08:40
It's called叫, "Finisterre菲尼斯泰尔,"
for Marlene马琳 McCormack麦科马克.
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它叫做 ”菲尼斯特雷“，献给玛琳马可麦克。
08:46
"The road路 in the end结束
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“道路到了尽头，
08:47
the road路 in the end结束
taking服用 the path路径 the sun太阳 had taken采取
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道路到了尽头，走过了太阳的旅程，
08:52
the road路 in the end结束
taking服用 the path路径 the run跑 had taken采取
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道路到了尽头，走过必经的途径，
08:56
into the western西 sea海
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进入西方的海洋，
08:58
the road路 in the end结束
taking服用 the path路径 the sun太阳 had taken采取
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道路到了尽头，走过了太阳的旅程，
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into the western西 sea海
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进入西方的海洋，
09:03
and the moon月亮
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而月亮，
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the moon月亮 rising升起 behind背后 you
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月亮从你身后升起，
09:07
as you stood站在 where ground地面 turned转身 to ocean海洋:
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当你站在陆地海洋交界的地方
09:11
no way to your future未来 now
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现在没了通往你未来的道路，
09:13
no way to your future未来 now
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现在没了通往你未来的道路，
09:14
except除 the way your shadow阴影 could take,
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除了你的影子能走上的路，
09:17
walking步行 before you across横过 water水,
going where shadows阴影 go,
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走在你前面，跨越水面，去到影子所去之处，
09:20
no way to make sense感 of a world世界
that wouldn't不会 let you pass通过
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无法了解一个不让你通过的世界，
09:25
except除 to call an end结束
to the way you had come,
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除了宣称你所走过的路到了尽头，
09:30
to take out each每 letter信 you had brought带
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只能取出你带来的信件
09:35
and light光 their其 illumined照亮 corners角落;
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点燃它们的发光的一角
09:38
and to read读 them as they drifted漂流
on the late晚了 western西 light光;
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借夕阳掠过的光芒再一次阅读上面的文字
09:43
to empty空 your bags包装袋
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清空你的袋子，
09:44
to empty空 your bags包装袋;
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清空你的袋子；
09:45
to sort分类 this and to leave离开 that
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把这个分类、把那个留下，
09:48
to sort分类 this and to leave离开 that;
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把这个分类、把那个留下；
09:52
to promise诺言 what you needed需要
to promise诺言 all along沿
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承诺你所需要的，打从开始就一直承诺，
09:56
to promise诺言 what you needed需要
to promise诺言 all along沿,
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承诺你所需要承诺的，一如既往地承诺，
09:59
and to abandon放弃 the shoes鞋
that brought带 you here
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丢弃那带你来到这里的鞋子，
10:03
right at the water's水的 edge边缘,
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丢弃在水的边缘，
10:05
not because you had given特定 up
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不是因为你已经放弃，
10:07
not because you had given特定 up
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不是因为你已经放弃，
10:09
but because now,
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而是因为现在，
10:10
you would find a different不同 way to tread踏,
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你会找到一条不同的归途
10:13
and because, through通过 it all,
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也因为，透过它，
10:14
part部分 of you would still walk步行 on,
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你的一部份将会继续走下去，
10:17
no matter物 how,
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不论如何，
10:18
over the waves波浪."
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走过波浪。 “
10:22
"Finisterre菲尼斯泰尔."
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「菲尼斯特雷」。
10:23
For Marlene马琳 McCormack麦科马克 --
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献给玛琳马可麦克–
10:25
(Applause掌声)
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（掌声）
10:35
who has already已经 had
her third第三 play玩 performed执行
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她已经有三部戏剧作品上演了
10:37
in off-off-off-off-Broadway外外外外百老汇 --
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在远离百老汇的剧界，
10:41
in Dublin都柏林.
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在都柏林。
10:42
(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
10:43
But she's on her way.
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但她在向前进了。
10:45
This is the last piece片.
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这是最后一件作品。
10:47
This is about the supposed应该 arrival到达
at the sum和 of all of our endeavors努力.
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它说的是在我们努力的顶点，应当的抵达。
10:53
In Santiago圣地亚哥 itself本身 --
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在圣雅各本身–
10:55
it could be Santiago圣地亚哥,
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可以是圣雅各，
10:56
it could be Mecca麦加,
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可以是麦加，
10:57
it could be Varanasi瓦拉纳西,
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可以是瓦拉纳西，
10:59
it could be Kyoto京都,
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可以是京都，
11:00
it could be that threshold阈
you've set组 for yourself你自己,
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可以是你为你自己设定的门槛，
11:05
the disturbing烦扰的 approach途径
to the consummation完善 of all your goals目标.
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用让人不安的方法，用来完成你所有目标。
11:13
And one of the difficulties困难
about walking步行 into your life,
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要走入你的人生，要来到这身体内，
11:17
about coming未来 into this body身体,
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完全进入这世界，
11:19
into this world世界 fully充分,
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困难点之一就是
11:22
is you start开始 to realize实现
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你开始了解到
11:24
that you have manufactured制成的
three三 abiding守法 illusions幻想
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你已经制造出了三个持久的幻觉，
11:30
that the rest休息 of humanity人性 has shared共享
with you since以来 the beginning开始 of time.
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打从一开始，其他的人类就与你共享这些幻觉。
11:34
And the first illusion错觉
is that you can somehow不知何故 construct构造 a life
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第一个幻觉就是你可以以某种方式建立一个人生，
11:39
in which哪一个 you are not vulnerable弱势.
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且你身在其中不会脆弱。
11:42
You can somehow不知何故 be immune免疫的
to all of the difficulties困难
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你可以对所有的困难、病痛和失去的东西
有免疫能力
11:47
and ill生病 health健康 and losses损失
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11:51
that humanity人性 has been subject学科 to
since以来 the beginning开始 of time.
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这些都是人类从一开始就会要遭受的。
11:56
If we look out at the natural自然 world世界,
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如果你向外看看自然世界，
11:57
there's no part部分 of that world世界
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那个世界的每一部份
11:59
that doesn't go through通过 cycles周期
of, first, incipience发端,
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都会要经过循环，从最初，
12:03
or hiddenness隐藏性,
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或隐藏，
12:04
but then growth发展, fullness充满,
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然后成长、健全
12:07
but then a beautiful美丽,
to begin开始 with, disappearance消失,
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接着，首先，是一个美好的消失，
12:11
and then a very austere简朴的,
full充分 disappearance消失.
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然后是非常朴素的完整消失。
12:14
We look at that, we say,
"That's beautiful美丽,
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我们看着它，我们说："那真美
12:16
but can I just have the first half半
of the equation方程, please?
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但能不能只给我这个公式的前半部分？
12:20
And when the disappearance消失 is happening事件,
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当消失发生时，
12:22
I'll close关 my eyes眼睛 and wait
for the new新 cycle周期 to come around."
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我会闭上眼睛等待新的循环再次开始。”
12:25
Which哪一个 means手段 most最 human人的 beings众生
are at war战争 with reality现实
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这意味着，大部份的人类都和现实交战，
12:29
50 percent百分 of the time.
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50% 的时间都是如此。
12:32
The mature成熟 identity身分
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而成熟的人，
12:37
is able能够 to live生活 in the full充分 cycle周期.
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能走过完整的循环。
12:40
The second第二 illusion错觉 is,
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第二个幻觉是，
12:42
I can construct构造 a life
in which哪一个 I will not have my heart心 broken破碎.
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我可以建立一个人生，且身在其中我的心不会碎。
12:47
Romance浪漫 is the first place地点
we start开始 to do it.
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我们最先开始这么做的地方是恋爱。
12:49
When you're at the beginning开始
of a new新 romance浪漫 or a new新 marriage婚姻,
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当你在一段新恋情或新婚的开始，
12:53
you say, "I have found发现 the person人
who will not break打破 my heart心."
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你说：“ 我找到了不会让我心碎的人。”
12:57
I'm sorry;
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很抱歉；
12:59
you have chosen选择 them out unconsciously不知不觉
for that exact精确 core核心 competency能力.
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你在无意识中，就是根据那让你心碎的核心能力而选中他们的。
13:04
(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
13:05
They will break打破 your heart心.
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他们会让你心碎。
13:07
Why?
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为什么？
13:08
Because you care关心 about them.
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因为你在乎他们。
13:10
You look at parenting育儿, yeah?
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来看看养育子女的过程吧？
养育子女时，大家以为 “ 我会是个完美的父母亲。”
13:12
Parenting育儿: "I will be
the perfect完善 mother母亲 and father父亲."
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13:16
Your children孩子 will break打破 your heart心.
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你的孩子会让你心碎。
13:18
And they don't even have to do
anything spectacular壮观 or dramatic戏剧性.
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他们甚至不用做什么出格或戏剧性的事，就可以办到。
13:23
But usually平时, they do do something
spectacular壮观 or dramatic戏剧性 --
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但，通常他们会做些出格或戏剧性的事–
13:27
(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
13:28
to break打破 your heart心.
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来让你心碎。
13:30
And then they live生活 with you
as spies间谍 and saboteurs破坏者 for years年份,
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接着，他们会以间谍和蓄意破坏者的身份与你同住数年，
13:33
watching观看 your every一切 psychological心理 move移动,
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监看你的每一项心理对策，
13:36
and spotting斑点 your every一切 weakness弱点.
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发现你的每一个弱点。
13:39
And one day,
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有一天，
13:40
when they're about 14 years年份 old旧,
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当他们大约 14 岁时，
13:42
with your back turned转身 to them,
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当你背对他们时，
13:43
in the kitchen厨房,
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在厨房中，
13:45
while you're making制造 something for them --
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当你在为他们做食物时
13:47
(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
13:48
the psychological心理 stiletto短剑 goes去 in.
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心理的短剑就会插入
13:50
(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
13:53
(Applause掌声)
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（掌声）
13:58
And you say, "How did you know
exactly究竟 where to place地点 it?"
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你说：「你怎么知道要把它插在哪？」
14:02
(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
14:03
And they say,
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他们说：
14:04
"I've been watching观看 you for --
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「我一直在看着你，已经有–
14:06
(Laughter笑声)
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（笑声）
14:07
a good few少数 years年份."
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好多年了。 」
14:11
And then we hope希望 that our armored装甲,
professional专业的 personalities个性
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接着，我们希望武装起来的职业素养
14:17
will prevent避免 us from having有 our
heart心 broken破碎 in work.
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能让我们避免在工作时心碎。
14:20
But if you're sincere真诚 about your work,
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但如果你对你的工作是真诚的，
14:23
it should break打破 your heart心.
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它应该会让你心碎。
14:26
You should get to thresholds阈值
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你应该会达到你
14:27
where you do not know how to proceed继续.
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不知该怎么进行下去的那个槛。
14:32
You do not know how to get
from here to there.
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你不知道要如何从这里到那里。
14:36
What does that do?
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那会有什么影响？
14:37
It puts看跌期权 you into a proper正确
relationship关系 with reality现实.
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它会让你与现实有个适当的关系。
14:41
Why?
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为什么？
14:42
Because you have to ask问 for help.
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因为你必须寻求帮助。
14:50
Heartbreak心碎.
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心碎。
14:52
We don't have a choice选择 about heartbreak心碎,
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心碎不是我们能选择要不要的。
14:54
we only have a choice选择
of having有 our hearts心中 broken破碎
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心碎是我们唯一的选择
14:58
over people and things and projects项目
that we deeply深 care关心 about.
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人们都会为他们深深在乎的人、事物、项目而心碎。
15:05
And the last illusion错觉 is,
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最后一个幻觉是，
15:07
I can somehow不知何故 plan计划 enough足够
and arrange安排 things
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我能够做足够的计划与安排，
15:11
that I will be able能够 to see
the path路径 to the end结束
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让我能够看见从现在到未来
15:15
right from where I'm standing常设,
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一路通往终点的路，
15:17
right to the horizon地平线.
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一路到达地平线。
15:20
But when you think about it,
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但当你仔细想想，
15:22
the only environment环境
in which哪一个 that would be true真正
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只有在一个环境中，这个说法会成立，
15:25
would be a flat平面 desert沙漠,
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那就是平坦的沙漠，
15:28
empty空 of any other life.
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没有其他生命的空旷之地。
15:33
But even in a flat平面 desert沙漠,
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但即使在平坦的沙漠，
15:34
the curvature曲率 of the earth地球
would take the path路径 away from you.
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地球的曲度也会让你看不见路。
15:38
So, no;
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所以，不；
15:40
you see the path路径,
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你会看见路，
15:41
and then you don't
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接着又看不见，
15:43
and then you see it again.
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然后又会再看见。
15:45
So this is "Santiago圣地亚哥,"
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所以，这是「圣雅各」，
15:48
the supposed应该 arrival到达,
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所谓的抵达，
15:51
which哪一个 is a kind类 of return返回
to the beginning开始 all at the same相同 time.
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仿佛是同时返回到最初。
15:55
We have this experience经验 of the journey旅程,
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我们拥有旅程的经历，
15:58
which哪一个 is in all of our great
spiritual精神 traditions传统,
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在所有我们伟大的朝圣灵性
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of pilgrimage朝圣.
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传统当中。
16:02
But just by actually其实 standing常设
in the ground地面 of your life fully充分,
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但实际上完全地坚守你人生的阵地，
16:06
not trying试 to abstract抽象 yourself你自己
into a strategic战略 future未来
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不试图将你自己抽象化成策略性的未来，
16:10
that's actually其实 just an escape逃逸
from present当下 heartbreak心碎;
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那其实是种逃避当前心碎的方式；
16:14
the ability能力 to stand站
in the ground地面 of your life
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坚守你人生阵地的能力，
16:16
and to look at the horizon地平线
that is pulling拉 you --
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看着拉着你的地平线
16:20
in that moment时刻,
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在那一刻，
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you are the whole整个 journey旅程.
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你就是整个旅程。
16:23
You are the whole整个 conversation会话.
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你就是整个交谈。
16:27
"Santiago圣地亚哥."
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「圣雅各」。
16:28
"The road路 seen看到, then not seen看到
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“ 看见的道路，接着便消失了
16:31
the road路 seen看到, then not seen看到
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看见的道路，接着便消失了
16:36
the hillside山坡 hiding藏 then revealing揭示
the way you should take
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山坡隐藏了你应该走的路，接着又揭示了它，
16:40
the road路 seen看到, then not seen看到
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看见的道路，接着看不见了，
16:43
the hillside山坡 hiding藏 then revealing揭示
the way you should take,
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山坡隐藏了你应该走的路，接着又揭示了它，
16:48
the road路 dropping落下 away from you
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道路离开了你，
16:52
as if leaving离开 you to walk步行 on thin瘦 air空气,
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仿佛让你独自在走在稀薄的空气上，
16:57
then catching捕 you,
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然后接住你，
16:58
catching捕 you,
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接住你，
16:59
holding保持 you up,
when you thought you would fall秋季,
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在你以为你会落下的时候，扶住你，
17:02
catching捕 you,
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接住你，
17:03
holding保持 you up,
when you thought you would fall秋季,
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在你以为你会落下的时候，扶住你，
17:05
and the way forward前锋
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而向前的路，
17:07
the way forward前锋 always in the end结束
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向前的路最后总是
17:11
the way that you came来了,
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你来的路，
17:12
the way forward前锋 always in the end结束
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向前的路最后总是
17:14
the way that you came来了,
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你来的路，
17:15
the way that you followed其次,
the way that carried携带的 you into your future未来,
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你遵循的路，带你进入未来的路，
17:19
that brought带 you to this place地点,
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带你来到这个地方的路，
17:20
that brought带 you to this place地点,
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带你来到这个地方的路，
17:23
no matter物 that it sometimes有时
had to take your promise诺言 from you,
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尽管它有时必须要夺去你的承诺，
17:28
no matter物 that it always
had to break打破 your heart心 along沿 the way:
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尽管它必然要在过程中让你心碎；
17:34
the sense感
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这感觉，
17:35
the sense感 of having有 walked走
from deep深 inside内 yourself你自己
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这已经走过自己内在深处，
17:40
out into the revelation启示,
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走出来后得到启示的感觉，
17:43
to have risked冒险 yourself你自己
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已经自己冒过险，
17:45
for something that seemed似乎 to stand站
both都 inside内 you and far远 beyond外 you,
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为了某样东西冒险，它似乎同时在你内在以及远在你之外，
17:51
and that called叫 you back in the end结束
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最终呼唤你回来
17:53
to the only road路 you could follow跟随,
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到你可以遵循的唯一道路，
17:56
walking步行 as you did, in your rags碎布 of love
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像你之前那样行走，穿着爱的褴褛衣衫，
像你之前那样行走，穿着爱的褴褛衣衫，
18:00
walking步行 as you did, in your rags碎布 of love
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说话的声音在晚上变成安全抵达的祈祷，
18:03
and speaking请讲 in the voice语音 that by night
became成为 a prayer祷告 for safe安全 arrival到达,
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18:10
so that one day
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所以，有一天，
18:12
one day you realized实现
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有一天你了解到
18:14
that what you wanted
had actually其实 already已经 happened发生
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你所想要的其实已经发生了，
18:18
one day you realized实现
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1952
有一天你了解到
18:20
that what you wanted
had actually其实 already已经 happened发生
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你所想要的其实已经发生了，
很早就发生了，
18:22
and long ago前
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18:23
and in the dwelling住宅 place地点
in which哪一个 you lived生活 before you began开始,
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在有你之前就存在的你居住过的地方，
18:27
and that
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以及
18:28
and that every一切 step步 along沿 the way,
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以及路上的每一步，
18:31
every一切 step步 along沿 the way,
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路上的每一步，
18:33
you had carried携带的 the heart心
and the mind心神 and the promise诺言
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你都可以带着那心、那精神、那承诺，
18:36
that first set组 you off
and then drew德鲁 you on,
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最初是它们让你启程的，吸引你靠近的，
18:39
and that
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而且
18:41
and that you were more marvelous奇妙
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而且你想要找到一条路的简单愿望，
18:45
in your simple简单 wish希望 to find a way
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让你更显非凡，
18:48
you were more marvelous奇妙
in your simple简单 wish希望 to find a way
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3977
你想要找到一条路的简单愿望，让你更显非凡，
18:52
than the gilded镀金 roofs屋顶
of any destination目的地 you could reach达到
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比起你所能到达之任何目的地的镀金屋顶还要更非凡，
18:56
you were more marvelous奇妙
in that simple简单 wish希望 to find a way
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你想要找到一条路的简单愿望，让你更显非凡，
19:00
than the gilded镀金 roofs屋顶
of any destination目的地 you could reach达到:
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比起你所能到达之任何目的地的镀金屋顶还要更非凡；
19:03
as if, all along沿,
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仿佛，自始至终，
19:04
you had thought the end结束 point点
might威力 be a city市 with golden金色 domes圆顶,
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你认为终点可能是个有着黄金圆屋顶以及
19:07
and cheering欢呼 crowds人群,
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欢呼群众的城市，
19:08
and turning车削 the corner角
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就在你认为是
19:10
at what you thought
was the end结束 of the road路,
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道路尽头的地方，转过转角，
19:15
you found发现 just a simple简单 reflection反射,
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你发现的只是一个简单的反射，
19:19
and a clear明确 revelation启示
beneath下面 the face面对 looking back
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以及那回望的面孔底下的清楚启示，
19:22
and beneath下面 it another另一个 invitation请帖,
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在它底下有着另一项邀请，
19:27
all in one glimpse一瞥
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全都在一瞥之间，
19:29
all in one glimpse一瞥:
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全都在一瞥之间：
19:31
like a person人
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就像一个人，
19:33
like a person人 or a place地点
you had sought追捧 forever永远
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就像你永远在寻找的一个人或一个地方，
19:37
like a person人 or a place地点
you had sought追捧 forever永远,
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就像你永远在寻找的一个人或一个地方，
19:40
like a bold胆大 field领域 of freedom自由
that beckoned招手 you beyond外;
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就像一个英勇的原野，在更远处召唤着你；
19:45
like another另一个 life
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就像另一个人生，
19:46
like another另一个 life,
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就像另一个人生，
19:48
and the road路
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以及道路，
19:49
the road路 still stretching拉伸 on."
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仍然在延续下去的道路。
19:54
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（掌声）
19:55
Thank you.
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谢谢。
19:56
(Applause掌声)
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（掌声）
20:01
Thank you.
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谢谢。
20:02
(Applause掌声)
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（掌声）
20:07
Thank you very much. Thank you.
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非常谢谢，谢谢。
20:10
You're very kind类. Thank you.
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你们真好，谢谢。
20:11
(Applause掌声)
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Translated by Josephine Chau
Reviewed by Jenny Yang

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
David Whyte - Poet, author
David Whyte writes at the intersection of interior and exterior worlds, what he calls the conversational nature of reality, bringing new territory into view with his distinctly personal style.

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David Whyte grew up amid the grounded practicalities of Yorkshire, England, of a very imaginative, storytelling Irish mother. Not choosing between these two sides is what perhaps gave him his first insight into the complexities of human identity. He is quoted as saying that all of his poetry and philosophy is based on what he calls "the conversational nature of reality." His time as a scientist and naturalist fuide in the Galapagos Islands led him to explore what he calls the frontier nature of human identity. Whyte draws from this diverse background and a deep philosophical curiosity to craft poetry and prose that is at once highly relatable, yet altogether new. His work spans the worlds of literature, philosophy and organizational leadership, making him a clear, wise voice in an increasingly complex world. 

His books include The Sea in You: Twenty Poems of Requited and Unrequited Love; The Three Marriages: Reimagining Work, Self and Relationship; River Flow: New & Selected Poems; Consolations: The Solace, Nourishment and Underlying Meaning of Everyday Words and Pilgrim.

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