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Eve Pearlman: How to lead a conversation between people who disagree
Iv Perlman (Eve Pearlman): Kako povesti razgovor između ljudi koji se ne slažu
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U svetu koji je duboko podeljen, kako da vodimo teške razgovore sa suptilnošću, znatiželjom, poštovanjem? Novinarka veteran Iv Perlman predstavlja „novinarstvo dijaloga“, projekat u kojem novinari idu u središte socijalnih i političkih podela kako bi podržali razgovore među ljudima koji se ne slažu. Pogledajte šta se desilo kada se grupa koja se inače ne bi susrela - 25 liberala iz Kalifornije i 25 konzervativaca iz Alabame - okupila radi razgovora o spornim pitanjima. „Stvarna povezanost između različitosti - to je melem koji je jako potreban našoj demokratiji,“ kaže Perlman.
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Eve Pearlman is committed to the work of reinventing and reinvigorating journalistic practice. Full bio
Eve Pearlman is committed to the work of reinventing and reinvigorating journalistic practice. Full bio
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00:13
So in the run-up to the 2016 election,
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Uoči izbora 2016. godine,
00:16
I was, like most of us,
watching the rise in discord and vitriol
watching the rise in discord and vitriol
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kao i većina nas, gledala sam
sve veću neslogu, osude
sve veću neslogu, osude
00:20
and nastiness in our public spaces.
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i gadosti u našim javnim prostorima.
00:23
It was this crazy uptick in polarization.
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Bio je to ludački porast polarizacije.
00:26
It was both disheartening and distressing.
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Bilo je obeshrabrujuće i uznemirujuće.
Pa sam počela da razmišljam,
sa kolegom novinarem, Džeremijem Hejem,
sa kolegom novinarem, Džeremijem Hejem,
00:30
And so I started thinking,
with a fellow journalist, Jeremy Hay,
with a fellow journalist, Jeremy Hay,
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00:33
about how we might practice
our craft differently.
our craft differently.
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o tome kako se možemo
drugačije baviti svojim zanatom.
drugačije baviti svojim zanatom.
00:36
How we might go to the heart of divides,
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Kako bismo mogli da stignemo
do srca podela, do mesta konflikta,
do srca podela, do mesta konflikta,
00:39
to places of conflict,
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kao što su novinari oduvek radili,
00:40
like journalists always have,
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00:41
but then, once there,
do something really different.
do something really different.
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ali onda, kada stignemo tamo,
uradimo nešto zaista drugačije.
uradimo nešto zaista drugačije.
00:46
We knew we wanted to take
the core tools of our craft --
the core tools of our craft --
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Znali smo da želimo da uzmemo
osnovne alate svog zanata -
osnovne alate svog zanata -
00:49
careful vetting of information,
diligent research, curiosity,
diligent research, curiosity,
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pažljivo proveravanje informacija,
marljivo istraživanje, radoznalost,
marljivo istraživanje, radoznalost,
00:53
a commitment to serving the public good --
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posvećenost služenju javnom dobru,
00:55
to serving our democracy --
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služenju našoj demokratiji -
00:56
and do something new.
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i uradimo nešto novo.
00:58
And so we mapped out this process,
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I tako smo mapirali ovaj proces
01:00
what we call dialogue journalism,
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koji nazivamo novinarstvom dijaloga,
01:02
for going to the heart
of social and political divides,
of social and political divides,
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radi dolaženja do srži
društvenih i političkih podela,
društvenih i političkih podela,
01:05
and then, once there, building
journalism-supported conversations
journalism-supported conversations
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a zatim, kada se nađemo tamo,
izgradnje razgovora podržanih novinarstvom
izgradnje razgovora podržanih novinarstvom
01:09
between people on opposite sides
of polarizing issues.
of polarizing issues.
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među ljudima na suprotnim stranama
polarizovanih pitanja.
polarizovanih pitanja.
01:15
But how actually to do this
in a world that's so divided,
in a world that's so divided,
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Ali kako to zapravo uraditi
u svetu koji je toliko podeljen,
u svetu koji je toliko podeljen,
01:19
so deeply divided --
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toliko duboko podeljen,
01:20
when we live in a world
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kada živimo u svetu
01:22
in which cousins and aunts and uncles
can't talk to one another,
can't talk to one another,
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u kome rođaci, tetke i stričevi
ne mogu da razgovaraju jedni sa drugima,
ne mogu da razgovaraju jedni sa drugima,
01:25
when we often live in separate
and distinct news ecosystems,
and distinct news ecosystems,
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kada često živimo u odvojenim
i zasebnim ekosistemima vesti,
i zasebnim ekosistemima vesti,
01:29
and when we reflexively
and habitually malign and dismiss
and habitually malign and dismiss
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i kada refleksno i po navici
opanjkavamo i odbacujemo
opanjkavamo i odbacujemo
01:33
those with whom we disagree?
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one sa kojima se ne slažemo?
01:36
But we wanted to try.
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Ali hteli smo da probamo.
01:38
And so right after the 2016 election,
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I tako odmah nakon izbora 2016. godine,
01:40
in that time between the election
and the inauguration,
and the inauguration,
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u ono vreme između izbora i inauguracije,
01:44
we partnered with the Alabama Media Group
to do something really different.
to do something really different.
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udružili smo se sa Medijskom grupom
Alabame da uradimo nešto zaista drugačije.
Alabame da uradimo nešto zaista drugačije.
01:48
We brought 25 Trump supporters
from Alabama together
from Alabama together
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Spojili smo 25 Trampovih pristalica
iz Alabame u razgovoru
iz Alabame u razgovoru
01:51
in conversation with
25 Clinton supporters from California.
25 Clinton supporters from California.
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sa 25 pristalica Klintonove
iz Kalifornije.
iz Kalifornije.
01:55
And we brought them together
in a closed, moderated Facebook group
in a closed, moderated Facebook group
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Spojili smo ih u zatvorenu,
moderiranu grupu na Fejsbuku
moderiranu grupu na Fejsbuku
01:59
that we kept open for a month.
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koju smo držali otvorenom mesec dana.
02:03
What we wanted to do
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Hteli smo da postignemo
02:04
was to give them a place to engage
with genuine curiosity and openness.
with genuine curiosity and openness.
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da im pružimo mesto da komuniciraju
sa istinskom radoznalošću i otvorenošću.
sa istinskom radoznalošću i otvorenošću.
02:08
And we wanted to support them
in building relationships,
in building relationships,
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Hteli smo i da ih podržimo
u izgradnji odnosa,
u izgradnji odnosa,
ne samo jednih sa drugima,
već i sa nama kao novinarima.
već i sa nama kao novinarima.
02:11
not just with each other
but with us as journalists.
but with us as journalists.
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02:14
And then we wanted to supply
facts and information --
facts and information --
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A zatim smo hteli da dostavimo
činjenice i informacije -
činjenice i informacije -
02:17
facts and information that they could
actually receive and process
actually receive and process
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činjenice i informacije
koje bi oni mogli primiti, obraditi
koje bi oni mogli primiti, obraditi
02:21
and use to undergird their conversations.
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i koristiti da učvrste svoje razgovore.
02:25
And so as a prelude to this conversation,
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Kao uvod u ovaj razgovor,
02:27
the first step in what we call
dialogue journalism,
dialogue journalism,
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prvi korak u onome što nazivamo
novinarstvom dijaloga,
novinarstvom dijaloga,
02:30
we asked what they thought
the other side thought of them.
the other side thought of them.
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pitali smo ih šta misle
da druga strana misli o njima.
da druga strana misli o njima.
02:35
So when we asked
the Trump supporters from Alabama
the Trump supporters from Alabama
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Kada smo pitali
Trampove pristalice iz Alabame
Trampove pristalice iz Alabame
02:39
what they thought the Clinton supporters
in California thought of them,
in California thought of them,
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šta su mislili da pristalice Klintonove
u Kaliforniji misle o njima,
u Kaliforniji misle o njima,
ovo je nešto od onoga što su rekli.
02:42
this is some of what they said.
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02:44
"They think we are religious
Bible thumpers."
Bible thumpers."
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„Oni misle da smo religiozni
biblijski zaluđenici.“
biblijski zaluđenici.“
02:46
"That we're backwards
and hickish, and stupid."
and hickish, and stupid."
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„Da smo zaostali, seljačine i glupi.“
„Misle da svi imamo
zastavu Konfederacije u dvorištu,
zastavu Konfederacije u dvorištu,
02:50
"They think that we all have
Confederate flags in our yards,
Confederate flags in our yards,
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da smo rasiste, seksiste i neobrazovani.“
02:53
that we're racist
and sexist and uneducated."
and sexist and uneducated."
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02:55
"They think we're barefoot and pregnant,
with dirt driveways."
with dirt driveways."
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„Misle da smo bosi i trudni,
sa prljavim prilazima pred kućom.“
sa prljavim prilazima pred kućom.“
02:59
"And they think we're all prissy butts
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„Misle i da smo svi seka perse
i da idemo okolo u krinolinama,
sa poljima pamuka u pozadini“.
sa poljima pamuka u pozadini“.
03:01
and that we walk around in hoop skirts
with cotton fields in the background."
with cotton fields in the background."
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Zatim smo to isto pitanje
postavili stanovnicima Kalifornije:
postavili stanovnicima Kalifornije:
03:05
And then we asked that same question
of the Californians:
of the Californians:
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03:07
"What do you think
the Alabamians think about you?"
the Alabamians think about you?"
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„Šta mislite da ljudi
iz Alabame misle o vama?“
iz Alabame misle o vama?“
03:10
And they said this:
"That we're crazy, liberal Californians."
"That we're crazy, liberal Californians."
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Rekli su ovo: „Misle da smo ludi,
liberalni Kalifornijci.“
liberalni Kalifornijci.“
03:14
"That we're not patriotic."
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„Da nismo patriote.“
03:15
"We're snobby and we're elitist."
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„Snobovi smo i elitiste.“
03:17
"We're godless and we're permissive
with our children."
with our children."
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„Bezbožnici smo i popustljivi
prema svojoj deci.“
prema svojoj deci.“
03:20
"And that we're focused
on our careers, not our family."
on our careers, not our family."
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„I da smo usmereni na karijeru,
a ne na porodicu.“
a ne na porodicu.“
03:23
"That we're elitist,
pie-in-the-sky intellectuals,
pie-in-the-sky intellectuals,
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„Da smo elitiste, intelektualci
sa glavom u oblacima,
sa glavom u oblacima,
03:25
rich people, Whole Foods-eating,
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bogataši koji se hrane
u prodavnicama zdrave hrane,
u prodavnicama zdrave hrane,
03:28
very out of touch."
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van dodira sa realnošću.“
03:31
So by asking questions like this
at the start of every conversation
at the start of every conversation
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Postavljanjem ovakvih pitanja
na početku svakog razgovora,
na početku svakog razgovora,
03:35
and by identifying
and sharing stereotypes,
and sharing stereotypes,
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utvrđivanjem i iznošenjem stereotipa,
03:38
we find that people --
people on all sides --
people on all sides --
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nalazimo da ljudi na svim stranama
03:40
begin to see the simplistic and often
mean-spirited caricatures they carry.
mean-spirited caricatures they carry.
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počinju da uviđaju da nose
uprošćene i često zlobne karikature.
uprošćene i često zlobne karikature.
03:46
And in that --
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A time -
03:47
after that, we can move
into a process of genuine conversation.
into a process of genuine conversation.
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nakon toga možemo da nastavimo
sa procesom istinskog razgovora.
sa procesom istinskog razgovora.
03:52
So in the two years since that launch --
California/Alabama Project --
California/Alabama Project --
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Tokom dve godine od tog pokretanja
projekta Kalifornija/Alabama,
projekta Kalifornija/Alabama,
03:56
we've gone on to host
dialogues and partnerships
dialogues and partnerships
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nastavili smo da vodimo
dijaloge i partnerstva
dijaloge i partnerstva
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with media organizations
across the country.
across the country.
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sa medijskim organizacijama širom zemlje.
04:01
And they've been about
some of our most contentious issues:
some of our most contentious issues:
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Bavili su se nekim
od naših najspornijih pitanja:
od naših najspornijih pitanja:
oružjem, imigracijom, rasom, obrazovanjem.
04:03
guns, immigration, race, education.
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04:07
And what we found,
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Otkrili smo,
04:09
remarkably,
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što je bilo neverovatno,
04:10
is that real dialogue is in fact possible.
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da je stvarni dijalog zaista moguć.
04:13
And that when given a chance
and structure around doing so,
and structure around doing so,
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I da, kada im se pruži šansa
i struktura oko toga,
i struktura oko toga,
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many, not all,
but many of our fellow citizens
but many of our fellow citizens
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mnogi, ne svi, ali mnogi naši sugrađani
04:19
are eager to engage with the other.
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rado se uključuju u razgovor sa drugima.
04:24
Too often journalists
have sharpened divides
have sharpened divides
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Prečesto novinari imaju izoštrene podele
04:27
in the name of drama or readership
or in service to our own views.
or in service to our own views.
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u ime drame ili čitalaca
ili u službi ličnih stavova.
ili u službi ličnih stavova.
04:31
And too often we've gone to each side
quoting a partisan voice on one side
quoting a partisan voice on one side
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Prečesto prilazimo svakoj strani
citirajući pristalice sa jedne strane
citirajući pristalice sa jedne strane
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and a partisan voice on the other
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i pristalice sa druge strane,
sa upečatljivim anegdotskim glavnim likom
i konciznim krajnjim navodom
i konciznim krajnjim navodom
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with a telling anecdotal lead
and a pithy final quote,
and a pithy final quote,
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04:40
all of which readers
are keen to mine for bias.
are keen to mine for bias.
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u čemu su čitaoci
skloni da nađu predrasude.
skloni da nađu predrasude.
04:43
But our dialogue-based process
has a slower pace and a different center.
has a slower pace and a different center.
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Ali naš proces zasnovan na dijalogu
ima sporiji tempo i drugačije jezgro.
ima sporiji tempo i drugačije jezgro.
04:49
And our work is guided by the principle
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Naš rad se rukovodi principom
da je dijalog među različitim stranama
da je dijalog među različitim stranama
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that dialogue across difference
is essential to a functioning democracy,
is essential to a functioning democracy,
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suštinski bitan
za funkcionalnu demokratiju,
za funkcionalnu demokratiju,
04:55
and that journalism and journalists
have a multifaceted role to play
have a multifaceted role to play
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i da novinarstvo i novinari
imaju višestruku ulogu
imaju višestruku ulogu
05:00
in supporting that.
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u pružanju potpore tome.
05:03
So how do we work?
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Pa, kako radimo?
05:05
At every stage,
we're as transparent as possible
we're as transparent as possible
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U svakoj fazi, transparentni smo
što je više moguće
što je više moguće
05:08
about our methods and our motives.
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u pogledu naših metoda i motiva.
05:10
At every stage, we take time
to answer people's questions --
to answer people's questions --
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U svakoj fazi izdvajamo vreme
da odgovorimo na pitanja ljudi -
da odgovorimo na pitanja ljudi -
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explain why we're doing what we're doing.
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da objasnimo zašto radimo to što radimo.
05:16
We tell people that it's not a trap:
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Govorimo ljudima da nije u pitanju zamka -
05:18
no one's there to tell you you're stupid,
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niko vam neće reći da ste glupi,
niko nije tu da vam kaže
da vaše iskustvo nije bitno.
da vaše iskustvo nije bitno.
05:20
no one's there to tell you
your experience doesn't matter.
your experience doesn't matter.
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05:24
And we always ask
for a really different sort of behavior,
for a really different sort of behavior,
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I uvek tražimo zaista drugačije ponašanje,
05:27
a repatterning away
from the reflexive name-calling,
from the reflexive name-calling,
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udaljavanje od refleksnog etiketiranja,
05:30
so entrenched in our discourse
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toliko ukorenjenog u našem govoru
05:31
that most of us, on all sides,
don't even notice it anymore.
don't even notice it anymore.
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da ga većina nas, na svim stranama,
više ni ne primećuje.
više ni ne primećuje.
05:37
So people often come
into our conversations a bit angrily.
into our conversations a bit angrily.
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Ljudi često pomalo ljutito stupaju
u naše razgovore.
u naše razgovore.
Govore stvari kao što su:
„Kako možete da verujete X?“
„Kako možete da verujete X?“
05:41
They say things like,
"How can you believe X?"
"How can you believe X?"
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05:43
and "How can you read Y?"
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„Kako možete da čitate Y?“
05:45
and "Can you believe that this happened?"
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i „Možete li da verujete
da se ovo desilo?“
da se ovo desilo?“
05:49
But generally, in this miracle
that delights us every time,
that delights us every time,
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Ali uopšteno, u ovom čudu
koje nas svaki put oduševi,
koje nas svaki put oduševi,
05:52
people begin to introduce themselves.
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ljudi počinju da se predstavljaju.
Počinju da objašnjavaju
ko su i odakle dolaze,
ko su i odakle dolaze,
05:54
And they begin to explain
who they are and where they come from,
who they are and where they come from,
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i počinju da jedni drugima
postavljaju pitanja.
postavljaju pitanja.
05:57
and they begin to ask
questions of one another.
questions of one another.
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06:00
And slowly, over time, people circle back
again and again to difficult topics,
again and again to difficult topics,
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I polako, vremenom,
ljudi se stalno vraćaju na teške teme,
ljudi se stalno vraćaju na teške teme,
06:04
each time with a little more empathy,
a little more nuance,
a little more nuance,
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svaki put sa malo više empatije,
malo više suptilnosti,
malo više suptilnosti,
06:07
a little more curiosity.
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malo više radoznalosti.
06:09
And our journalists and moderators
work really hard to support this
work really hard to support this
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Naši novinari i moderatori
naporno rade da to podrže
naporno rade da to podrže
jer to nije debata, nije borba,
06:13
because it's not a debate,
it's not a battle,
it's not a battle,
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06:15
it's not a Sunday morning talk show.
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nije nedeljni jutarnji program.
06:18
It's not the flinging of talking points.
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Nije nabacivanje argumenata.
06:20
It's not the stacking of memes and gifs
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To nije gomilanje memova, gifova
06:22
or articles with headlines
that prove a point.
that prove a point.
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ili članaka sa naslovima
da bi neko dokazao da je u pravu.
da bi neko dokazao da je u pravu.
06:25
And it's not about scoring
political victories with question traps.
political victories with question traps.
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Ne radi se ni o ostvarivanju
političkih pobeda nezgodnim pitanjima.
političkih pobeda nezgodnim pitanjima.
06:31
So what we've learned is that our state
of discord is bad for everyone.
of discord is bad for everyone.
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Naučili smo da je naše stanje
neslaganja loše za sve.
neslaganja loše za sve.
06:36
It is a deeply unhappy state of being.
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To je duboko nesrećno stanje postojanja.
06:39
And people tell us this again and again.
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Ljudi nam to uvek iznova govore.
06:42
They say they appreciate the chance
to engage respectfully,
to engage respectfully,
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Kažu da cene priliku
da komuniciraju sa poštovanjem,
da komuniciraju sa poštovanjem,
06:45
with curiosity and with openness,
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sa radoznalošću i otvorenošću,
06:47
and that they're glad and relieved
for a chance to put down their arms.
for a chance to put down their arms.
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da im je drago i da im je lakše
jer imaju mogućnost da spuste oružje.
jer imaju mogućnost da spuste oružje.
06:52
And so we do our work in direct challenge
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Mi radimo svoj posao
direktno se suprotstavljajući
direktno se suprotstavljajući
06:54
to the political climate
in our country right now,
in our country right now,
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aktuelnoj političkoj klimi u našoj zemlji,
06:57
and we do it knowing
that it is difficult, challenging work
that it is difficult, challenging work
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i to radimo znajući
da je težak i zahtevan posao
da je težak i zahtevan posao
obuzdati i podržati ljude
suprotstavljenih strana u razgovoru.
suprotstavljenih strana u razgovoru.
07:00
to hold and support people
in opposing backgrounds in conversation.
in opposing backgrounds in conversation.
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07:05
And we do it knowing
democracy depends on our ability
democracy depends on our ability
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Radimo to znajući da demokratija
zavisi od naše sposobnosti
zavisi od naše sposobnosti
07:08
to address our shared problems together.
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da se udruženo bavimo
našim zajedničkim problemima.
našim zajedničkim problemima.
To radimo tako što postavimo zajednicu
u središte našeg novinarskog procesa,
u središte našeg novinarskog procesa,
07:11
And we do this work by putting community
at the heart of our journalistic process,
at the heart of our journalistic process,
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tako što stavimo ego na stranu
da bismo najpre slušali, duboko saslušali,
da bismo najpre slušali, duboko saslušali,
07:15
by putting our egos to the side
to listen first, to listen deeply,
to listen first, to listen deeply,
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07:19
to listen around
and through our own biases,
and through our own biases,
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slušali pored i naspram svojih predrasuda,
07:22
our own habits of thought,
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svojih navika u razmišljanju,
07:23
and to support others in doing the same.
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i da bismo podržali druge
da učine to isto.
da učine to isto.
Bavimo se ovim poslom
07:27
And we do this work
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znajući da se novinarstvo
kao institucija bori sa problemima,
kao institucija bori sa problemima,
07:29
knowing that journalism
as an institution is struggling,
as an institution is struggling,
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07:31
and that it has always had a role to play
and will continue to have a role to play
and will continue to have a role to play
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da je uvek igralo ulogu
i da će nastaviti da igra ulogu
i da će nastaviti da igra ulogu
u podržavanju razmene ideja i gledišta.
07:35
in supporting the exchange
of ideas and views.
of ideas and views.
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07:40
For many of the participants
in our groups,
in our groups,
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Za mnoge učesnike u našim grupama,
07:42
there are lasting reverberations.
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postoje trajni ishodi.
07:44
Many people have become Facebook friends
and in-real-life friends too,
and in-real-life friends too,
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Mnogi su postali prijatelji na Fejsbuku,
kao i u stvarnom životu,
kao i u stvarnom životu,
prelazeći političke granice.
07:48
across political lines.
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07:49
After we closed that first
Trump/Clinton project,
Trump/Clinton project,
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Nakon što smo okončali
taj prvi projekat Tramp/Klinton,
taj prvi projekat Tramp/Klinton,
07:53
about two-thirds of the women went on
to form their own Facebook group
to form their own Facebook group
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oko dve trećine žena je formiralo
svoju grupu na Fejsbuku,
svoju grupu na Fejsbuku,
odabrale su moderatora iz svake države
07:56
and they chose a moderator from each state
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07:58
and they continue to talk
about difficult and challenging issues.
about difficult and challenging issues.
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i nastavile da razgovaraju
o teškim i problematičnim pitanjima.
o teškim i problematičnim pitanjima.
08:02
People tell us again and again
that they're grateful for the opportunity
that they're grateful for the opportunity
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Ljudi nam stalno iznova govore
da su zahvalni na prilici
da su zahvalni na prilici
da budu deo ovog rada,
08:05
to be a part of this work,
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zahvalni jer znaju da ljudi
sa druge strane nisu ludi,
sa druge strane nisu ludi,
08:07
grateful to know that people
on the other side aren't crazy,
on the other side aren't crazy,
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08:10
grateful that they've had a chance
to connect with people
to connect with people
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zahvalni što su imali priliku
da se povežu sa ljudima
da se povežu sa ljudima
08:13
they wouldn't have otherwise talked to.
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sa kojima inače ne bi razgovarali.
Veliki deo onoga što smo videli i naučili,
08:16
A lot of what we've seen and learned,
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08:18
despite the fact that we call
ourselves Spaceship Media,
ourselves Spaceship Media,
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uprkos činjenici da se zovemo
Mediji svemirskog broda,
Mediji svemirskog broda,
uopšte nije nuklearna fizika.
08:21
is not at all rocket science.
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08:22
If you call people names,
if you label them, if you insult them,
if you label them, if you insult them,
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Ako nazivate ljude ružnim imenima,
ako ih etiketirate, ako ih vređate,
ako ih etiketirate, ako ih vređate,
08:25
they are not inclined to listen to you.
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neće vas rado slušati.
Oštra kritika ne pomaže,
posramljivanje ne pomaže,
posramljivanje ne pomaže,
08:28
Snark doesn't help, shame doesn't help,
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08:30
condescension doesn't help.
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snishodljivost ne pomaže.
08:33
Genuine communication
takes practice and effort
takes practice and effort
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Istinska komunikacija zahteva vežbu, trud,
08:37
and restraint and self-awareness.
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suzdržanost i samosvest.
08:40
There isn't an algorithm
to solve where we are.
to solve where we are.
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Ne postoji algoritam
za rešavanje situacije u kojoj smo.
za rešavanje situacije u kojoj smo.
08:44
Because real human connection
is in fact real human connection.
is in fact real human connection.
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Jer prava ljudska veza
je u stvari prava ljudska veza.
je u stvari prava ljudska veza.
08:49
So lead with curiosity,
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Dakle, vodite se radoznalošću,
naglašavajte diskusiju, a ne raspravu,
08:51
emphasize discussion not debate,
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08:52
get out of your silo,
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izađite iz svojih okvira,
08:56
because real connection
across difference ...
across difference ...
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jer prava povezanost
između različitosti...
između različitosti...
08:59
this is a salve
that our democracy sorely needs.
that our democracy sorely needs.
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to je melem koji je jako potreban
našoj demokratiji.
našoj demokratiji.
09:04
Thank you.
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Hvala.
09:05
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Eve Pearlman - JournalistEve Pearlman is committed to the work of reinventing and reinvigorating journalistic practice.
Why you should listen
Eve Pearlman is a journalistic innovator, public speaker, writer and thought leader. A lifelong journalist with a deep commitment to serving and building communities, she cofounded Spaceship Media in 2016 with a mission to reduce polarization, build communities and restore trust in journalism.
Earlier in her career, Pearlman was a reporter, blogger, columnist and social media strategist. She is the veteran of two startups: Patch, AOL's effort at serving local news markets; and State, a London-based social media platform connecting people around shared interests and views. She holds a bachelor's from Cornell University and a master's in journalism from Northwestern University.
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