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Emily Quinn: The way we think about biological sex is wrong
Emili Kvin (Emily Quinn): Način na koji razmišljamo o biološkom polu je pogrešan
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Da li ste znali da je skoro 150 miliona ljudi širom sveta rođeno kao interseksualno - sa karakteristikama koje biološki ne odgovaraju standardnoj definiciji muškarca ili žene? (Što je isto kao populacija Rusije.) Kada je imala 10 godina, Emili Kvin je saznala da je interseksualna, i u ovom mudrom, duhovitom govoru, ona priča o neverovatnim lekcijama koje je stekla vođena nesmotrenim očekivanjima društva, o lekarima koji su zahtevali nepotrebne operacije, i zalaže se za sebe i za neverovatnu raznolikost ljudi. (Sadrži sadržaj za odrasle)
Emily Quinn - Artist, activist, author
Emily Quinn describes herself as "a ballsy intersex activist who uses humor and storytelling to create a more welcoming world for people who don’t fit in a box." Full bio
Emily Quinn describes herself as "a ballsy intersex activist who uses humor and storytelling to create a more welcoming world for people who don’t fit in a box." Full bio
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00:12
[This talk contains mature content]
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I have a vagina.
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Ja imam vaginu.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Just thought you should know.
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Samo sam mislila da treba da znate.
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That might not come
as a surprise to some of you.
as a surprise to some of you.
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To nekima od vas neće biti iznenađenje.
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I look like a woman.
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Izgledam kao žena.
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I'm dressed like one, I guess.
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Obučena sam kao žena, valjda.
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The thing is, I also have balls.
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Stvar je u tome što imam i muda.
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And it does take a lot of nerve
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I potrebno je dosta hrabrosti
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to come up here and talk to you
about my genitalia.
about my genitalia.
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doći ovde i pričati vam
o svojim genitalijama.
o svojim genitalijama.
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Just a little.
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Samo malo.
00:39
But I'm not talking
about bravery or courage.
about bravery or courage.
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Ne pričam o hrabrosti ili odvažnosti.
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I mean literally -- I have balls.
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Mislim, bukvalno - imam testise.
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Right here,
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Baš ovde,
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right where a lot of you have ovaries.
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gde većina od vas ima jajnike.
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I'm not male or female.
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Nisam ni muško ni žensko.
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I'm intersex.
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Ja sam interseksualna.
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Most people assume that you're
biologically either a man or a woman,
biologically either a man or a woman,
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Većina ljudi pretpostavlja
da ste biološki ili muško ili žensko,
da ste biološki ili muško ili žensko,
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but it's actually a lot more
complex than that.
complex than that.
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ali, stvari su zapravo mnogo složenije.
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There are so many ways
somebody could be intersex.
somebody could be intersex.
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Možete biti interseksualni
na mnogo načina.
na mnogo načina.
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In my case, it means
I was born with XY chromosomes,
I was born with XY chromosomes,
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U mom slučaju, to znači
da sam rođena sa XY hromozomima,
da sam rođena sa XY hromozomima,
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which you probably know
as male chromosomes.
as male chromosomes.
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koji su vam poznati kao muški hromozomi.
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And I was born with a vagina
and balls inside my body.
and balls inside my body.
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I rođena sam sa vaginom
i testisima unutar tela.
i testisima unutar tela.
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I don't respond to testosterone,
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Ne reagujem na testosteron,
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so during puberty, I grew breasts,
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pa sam, tokom puberteta, dobila grudi,
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but I never got acne
or body hair, body oil.
or body hair, body oil.
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ali nikada nisam dobila akne
niti malje, telesnu masnoću.
niti malje, telesnu masnoću.
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You can be jealous of that.
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Možete biti ljubomorni zbog toga.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:27
But even though I don't
actually have a uterus --
actually have a uterus --
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Ipak, ja u stvari nemam matericu -
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I was born without one,
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rođena sam bez nje,
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so I don't menstruate,
I can't have biological children.
I can't have biological children.
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tako da ne dobijam menstruaciju,
i ne mogu da imam biološku decu.
i ne mogu da imam biološku decu.
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We put people in boxes
based on their genitalia.
based on their genitalia.
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Ljude svrstavamo u kategorije
na osnovu njihovih genitalija.
na osnovu njihovih genitalija.
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Before a baby's even born,
we ask whether it's a boy or a girl,
we ask whether it's a boy or a girl,
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Čak i pre nego što se dete rodi,
pitamo da li je dečak ili devojčica,
pitamo da li je dečak ili devojčica,
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as if it actually matters;
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kao da je to uopšte važno;
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as if you're going to be less excited
about having a baby
about having a baby
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kao da ćete biti manje uzbuđeni zbog bebe
ako nema genitalije koje ste želeli;
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if it doesn't have
the genitals you wanted;
the genitals you wanted;
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as if what's between somebody's legs
tells you anything about that person.
tells you anything about that person.
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kao da ono što je nekome među nogama
govori nešto o ličnosti te osobe.
govori nešto o ličnosti te osobe.
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Are they kind, generous, funny?
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Da li su dobri, plemeniti, duhoviti?
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Smart?
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Pametni?
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Who do they want to be when they grow up?
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Šta žele da budu kad odrastu?
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Genitals don't actually tell you anything.
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Genitalije vam zapravo ne govore ništa.
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Yet, we define ourselves by them.
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Ipak, njima definišemo ljude.
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In this society, we love
putting people into boxes
putting people into boxes
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U ovom društvu, volimo
da kategorizujemo ljude
da kategorizujemo ljude
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and labeling each other.
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i da ih etiketiramo.
02:12
It kind of gives us a sense of belonging
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To nam, na neki način,
pruža osećaj pripadanja
pruža osećaj pripadanja
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and teaches us how to interact
with one another.
with one another.
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i uči nas kako da međusobno komuniciramo.
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But there's one really big problem:
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Ali, tu postoji
jedan stvarno veliki problem:
jedan stvarno veliki problem:
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biological sex is not black or white.
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biološki pol nije crn ili beo.
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It's on a spectrum.
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Nalazi se na spektru.
02:28
Besides your genitalia,
you also have your chromosomes,
you also have your chromosomes,
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Osim genitalija, vi imate i hromozome,
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your gonads, like ovaries or testicles.
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polne žlezde kao što su
jajnici ili testisi.
jajnici ili testisi.
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You have your internal sex organs,
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Imate i unutrašnje polne organe,
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your hormone production,
your hormone response
your hormone response
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proizvodnju hormona, hormonsku reakciju
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and your secondary sex characteristics,
like breast development, body hair, etc.
like breast development, body hair, etc.
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i sekundarne polne karakteristike,
kao što je razvoj grudi, malja, itd.
kao što je razvoj grudi, malja, itd.
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Those seven areas of biological sex
all have so much variation,
all have so much variation,
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Tih sedam područja biološkog pola
imaju toliko varijacija,
imaju toliko varijacija,
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yet we only get two options:
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a ipak imamo samo dve opcije:
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male or female.
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muško ili žensko.
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Which is kind of absurd to me,
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Što mi je pomalo apsurdno,
jer mi ne pada na pamet
nijedna druga ljudska karakteristika
nijedna druga ljudska karakteristika
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because I can't think
of a single other human trait
of a single other human trait
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that there's only two options for:
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za koju imamo samo dve opcije:
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skin color, hair, height, eyes.
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boja kože, kose, očiju, visina.
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You can either have nose A or nose B,
that's it, no other options.
that's it, no other options.
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Možete imati ili nos A ili nos B,
to je to, nema drugih opcija.
to je to, nema drugih opcija.
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If there are infinite ways
for our bodies to look,
for our bodies to look,
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Ako postoje beskrajne mogućnosti
u smislu izgleda tela,
u smislu izgleda tela,
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our minds to think,
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načina razmišljanja,
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personalities to act,
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načina ponašanja,
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wouldn't it make sense
that there's that much variety
that there's that much variety
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zar ne bi bilo smisla da postoji
i raznolikost u pogledu biološkog pola?
i raznolikost u pogledu biološkog pola?
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in biological sex, too?
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03:22
Did you know that besides
XX or XY chromosomes,
XX or XY chromosomes,
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Da li znate da, osim hromozoma XX ili XY,
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you could have XX and XY chromosomes?
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možete imati hromozome XX i XY?
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Or you could have an extra X -- XXY.
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Ili možete imati hromozom X više - XXY.
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Or two extra -- XXXY.
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Ili dva više - XXXY.
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Goes on from there.
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I tako dalje.
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And for those "normal"
people with XX or XY,
people with XX or XY,
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Za „normalne“ ljude
sa XX ili XY hromozomima,
sa XX ili XY hromozomima,
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what does that mean?
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šta to znači?
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I have XY chromosomes.
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Ja imam XY hromozome.
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If my DNA is found
at the scene of a crime --
at the scene of a crime --
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Ako bi moj DNK pronašli na mestu zločina -
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not saying it will,
but, you know, we'll see.
but, you know, we'll see.
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ne kažem da hoće, ali, znate,
još ćemo videti.
još ćemo videti.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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If my skeleton is discovered
thousands of years from now,
thousands of years from now,
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Ako bi pronašli moj skelet
hiljadama godina od sada,
hiljadama godina od sada,
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I'll be labeled male.
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označili bi me kao muškarca.
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Is that the truth?
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Da li je to istina?
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My balls would say so.
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Moji testisi bi to rekli.
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But what about the rest of me?
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A šta je sa ostalim delovima?
04:02
And what if a woman has ovarian cancer
and has to have her ovaries removed?
and has to have her ovaries removed?
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A šta ako žena ima rak jajnika
i mora da ih otkloni?
i mora da ih otkloni?
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Does she still qualify as a woman?
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Da li se još uvek kvalifikuje kao žena?
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What about other intersex people
who are born without balls or ovaries
who are born without balls or ovaries
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Šta je sa interseksualnim ljudima
koji su rođeni bez testisa ili jajnika
koji su rođeni bez testisa ili jajnika
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or with just one
or a combination of the two?
or a combination of the two?
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ili sa jednim od to dvoje
ili kombinacijom ta dva?
ili kombinacijom ta dva?
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Where do they go?
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Gde oni spadaju?
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Do you have to have a uterus
to be a woman?
to be a woman?
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Da li morate imati matericu
da biste bili žena?
da biste bili žena?
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There's a lot of us
who are born without one.
who are born without one.
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Mnogo je nas koji smo rođeni bez nje.
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And everyone's favorite part, genitalia:
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I omiljeni deo svih, genitalije:
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you either have one or the other, right?
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imate ili jedne ili druge, zar ne?
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You either have a six-inch-long penis
that's exactly this thick,
that's exactly this thick,
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Ili imate penis od 15 centimentara
koji je tačno ove debljine,
koji je tačno ove debljine,
i koji vam štrči iz tela
pod uglom od 90 stepeni,
pod uglom od 90 stepeni,
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jutting straight out of the body
at a 90-degree angle,
at a 90-degree angle,
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ili vaginu koja je baš ove širine iznutra
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or you have a vagina
that's this wide internally
that's this wide internally
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and a clitoris that's half an inch
above the vaginal opening
above the vaginal opening
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i klitoris oko 1 centimetar
iznad vaginalnog otvora,
iznad vaginalnog otvora,
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and labia that look exactly
like they're supposed to look like,
like they're supposed to look like,
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i usmine koje izgledaju
baš kako treba da izgledaju,
baš kako treba da izgledaju,
sudeći po onom porno snimku
koji ste onomad gledali.
koji ste onomad gledali.
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according to that one porn video
you watched that one time.
you watched that one time.
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Znate kojem.
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You know the one.
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Ako ste bili sa više
seksualnih partnera u životu,
seksualnih partnera u životu,
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If you've been with more than one
sexual partner in your lifetime,
sexual partner in your lifetime,
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04:50
and you line them up, one by one,
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i ako ih poređate, jednog po jednog,
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I guarantee you can identify them
just by their genitalia.
just by their genitalia.
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sigurno ih možete identifikovati
samo prema njihovim genitalijama.
samo prema njihovim genitalijama.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
04:56
Think about it.
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Razmislite.
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Go on.
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Hajde.
04:59
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:00
I see you.
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Razumem vas.
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No judging.
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Bez osuđivanja.
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Just notice.
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Samo razmislite.
05:05
All different, right?
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Svi se razlikuju, zar ne?
05:08
The sex and gender binary
are both so ingrained in our society,
are both so ingrained in our society,
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I pol i rodna binarnost su toliko
ukorenjeni u našem društvu,
ukorenjeni u našem društvu,
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that we never stop to think about it.
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da nikada ne razmišljamo o tome,
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We just automatically place each other
into one box or the other,
into one box or the other,
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već automatski smestimo ljude
u jednu ili drugu kategoriju,
u jednu ili drugu kategoriju,
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as if it actually matters.
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kao da je to u stvari bitno.
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Until somebody comes along
to make you question it.
to make you question it.
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Dok vas neko ne natera da se zapitate.
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And if you're thinking that
I'm the exception, an anomaly, an outlier:
I'm the exception, an anomaly, an outlier:
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I ako mislite da sam ja izuzetak,
anomalija, autsajder:
anomalija, autsajder:
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intersex people represent
around two percent of the population.
around two percent of the population.
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interseksualni ljudi čine
dva procenta populacije.
dva procenta populacije.
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That's the same percentage
as genetic redheads.
as genetic redheads.
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To je isti procenat
kao i prirodno riđokosi ljudi.
kao i prirodno riđokosi ljudi.
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It's about 150 million people, roughly,
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To je oko 150 miliona ljudi, otprilike,
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which is more than
the entire population of Russia.
the entire population of Russia.
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što je više nego cela populacija Rusije.
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So there's a lot of us, needless to say.
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Dakle, nepotrebno je reći da nas je mnogo.
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We're not new or rare.
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Mi nismo novost ili retkost.
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We're just invisible.
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Samo smo nevidljivi.
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We've existed throughout
every culture in history.
every culture in history.
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Postojimo u svakoj kulturi u istoriji.
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Yet, we never talk about it.
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Ipak, nikada ne pričamo o tome.
06:04
In fact, a lot of people might not know
that they're intersex.
that they're intersex.
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U stvari, mnogi ljudi možda ne znaju
da su interseksualni.
da su interseksualni.
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Have you had a karyotype test
to determine your chromosomes?
to determine your chromosomes?
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Jeste li radili test kariotipa
da utvrdite koje hromozome imate?
da utvrdite koje hromozome imate?
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What about a full blood panel
for all of your hormone levels?
for all of your hormone levels?
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A kompletnu krvnu sliku
da utvrdite nivo hormona?
da utvrdite nivo hormona?
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A friend of mine found out
last year, in his 50s.
last year, in his 50s.
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Moj prijatelj je saznao prošle godine,
u 50-im godinama.
u 50-im godinama.
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The executive director of interACT,
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Izvršna direktorka interACT-a,
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which is the leading organization
for intersex human rights here in the US,
for intersex human rights here in the US,
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koja je vodeća organizacija za prava
interseksualnih osoba u SAD-u,
interseksualnih osoba u SAD-u,
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she found out she was intersex at age 41.
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je saznala u 41. godini
da je interseksualna.
da je interseksualna.
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Her doctors found out when she was 15,
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Njeni lekari su saznali
kada je ona imala 15 godina,
kada je ona imala 15 godina,
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but they didn't tell her.
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ali joj nisu rekli.
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They lied and said that she had cancer,
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Lagali su je i rekli da ima rak,
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because that seemed like an easier option
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jer je to delovalo kao bolja opcija
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than finding out
she wasn't "fully" a woman.
she wasn't "fully" a woman.
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od saznanja da nije „u potpunosti“ žena.
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This kind of thing happens a lot,
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Ovakve stvari se dešavaju često,
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where intersex people are lied to
or kept in the dark about our bodies,
or kept in the dark about our bodies,
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kada interseksualne ljude lažu
ili drže u mraku po pitanju njihovih tela,
ili drže u mraku po pitanju njihovih tela,
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which comes as a surprise
to a lot of people.
to a lot of people.
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što je mnogim ljudima iznenađujuće.
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But we live in a society that doesn't talk
about sex or bodies at all,
about sex or bodies at all,
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Ali, mi živimo u društvu koje uopšte
ne priča o seksu i telu,
ne priča o seksu i telu,
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unless it's to mock or shame each other.
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osim kada se rugamo
ili hoćemo da postidimo jedni druge.
ili hoćemo da postidimo jedni druge.
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I found out I was intersex at age 10,
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Ja sam saznala kada sam imala 10 godina,
07:03
and for the most part,
I was fine with that information.
I was fine with that information.
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i, uglavnom, mi je to bilo u redu.
07:08
It didn't really faze me;
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Nije me stvarno zbunilo;
07:09
I was still developing
my understanding of the world.
my understanding of the world.
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još uvek sam razvijala
svoje razumevanje sveta.
svoje razumevanje sveta.
07:13
It wasn't until I got older
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Tek kada sam odrasla,
07:15
and realized I didn't fit
society's expectations of me,
society's expectations of me,
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shvatila sam da se ne uklapam
u društvena očekivanja,
u društvena očekivanja,
07:19
that I didn't belong, that I was abnormal.
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da tu ne pripadam, da sam abnormalna.
07:22
And that's when the shame started.
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I tada je počeo stid.
07:25
How many times have you seen kids
play with the "wrong" toys
play with the "wrong" toys
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Koliko često vidite
da se deca igraju igračkama
da se deca igraju igračkama
koje „ne odgovaraju“ njihovom polu?
07:28
for their gender?
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Or try on the "wrong" clothes?
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Ili da isprobavaju „pogrešnu“ odeću?
07:31
All the time, right?
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Stalno, zar ne?
07:33
Kids don't have these ideas
about gender norm,
about gender norm,
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Deca nemaju pojam o rodnim normama,
07:36
they don't have shame
about who they're supposed to be
about who they're supposed to be
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ne osećaju stid
zbog onoga što treba da budu
zbog onoga što treba da budu
07:39
or what they're supposed to like or love.
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ili onoga što treba
da im se sviđa ili da vole.
da im se sviđa ili da vole.
07:43
They don't care about any of this stuff.
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Oni ne mare za ove stvari.
07:46
They don't have shame
until we put it on them.
until we put it on them.
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Oni ne osete stid
dok im ga mi ne nametnemo.
dok im ga mi ne nametnemo.
07:50
I also had doctors lie to me.
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I mene su doktori lagali.
07:52
At age 10, they told me
that I would also get cancer
that I would also get cancer
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U 10. godini su mi rekli da ću dobiti rak
07:57
unless I removed my balls.
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ako ne odstranim testise.
07:59
Then they proceeded
to tell me that every year.
to tell me that every year.
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I to su mi govorili svake godine.
08:02
Until today, there are still doctors
who want me to remove them.
who want me to remove them.
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Čak i danas ima doktora
koji žele da ih uklonim.
koji žele da ih uklonim.
08:06
But there's literally no reason.
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Ali za to bukvalno nema razloga.
08:09
If a typical XY male,
like yourself, has testicles,
like yourself, has testicles,
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Ako tipičan muškarac sa XY hromozomima,
kao što ste vi, ima testise,
kao što ste vi, ima testise,
08:14
and one is undescended,
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i jedan nije spušten,
08:16
there's a high chance of it
becoming cancerous --
becoming cancerous --
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postoji velika šansa
da on postane kancerogen -
da on postane kancerogen -
08:19
or a higher chance
of it becoming cancerous.
of it becoming cancerous.
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ili veća šansa da postane kancerogen.
Potrebna im je termoregulacija.
08:21
They need to thermoregulated.
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08:23
So they drop down
away from the body to cool off,
away from the body to cool off,
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Oni se spuste da bi se ohladili,
08:26
or they shrink back up to get warm.
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ili se skupe da se ugreju.
08:29
Mine don't need to do that.
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Moji ne moraju to da rade.
08:31
They're not responding to testosterone,
they're not producing sperm.
they're not producing sperm.
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Ne reaguju na testosteron,
ne proizvode spermu.
ne proizvode spermu.
08:35
They're fine right here inside my body.
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Dobro im je baš ovde u mom telu.
08:38
Yet, because there's such a lack
of information about intersex people,
of information about intersex people,
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Ipak, pošto postoji nedostatak
informacija o interseksualnim osobama,
informacija o interseksualnim osobama,
08:42
my doctors never understood
the difference.
the difference.
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moji lekari nikada nisu razumeli razliku.
08:44
They never really understood my body.
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Nikada nisu stvarno razumeli moje telo.
08:47
As I got older,
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Kada sam postala starija,
08:48
I had another doctor tell me that
I needed to have surgery on my vagina.
I needed to have surgery on my vagina.
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još jedan lekar mi je rekao
da moram da operišem vaginu.
da moram da operišem vaginu.
08:52
She said that until I had an operation,
until she operated,
until she operated,
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Rekla mi je da, dok se ne operišem,
dok me ona ne operiše,
dok me ona ne operiše,
08:56
I would not be able to have
"normal sex" with my husband one day.
"normal sex" with my husband one day.
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neću moći da jednog dana imam
„normalne“ seksualne odnose sa suprugom.
„normalne“ seksualne odnose sa suprugom.
09:02
Her words.
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To su njene reči.
09:05
I didn't end up going through
with the operation,
with the operation,
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Na kraju nisam uradila operaciju,
09:07
and I'm incredibly grateful for that.
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i zbog toga sam neverovatno zahvalna.
Nisam ovde da pričam
o svom seksualnom životu.
o svom seksualnom životu.
09:11
I'm not here to talk about my sex life.
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09:13
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:15
But let's just say it's fine.
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Recimo da je on u redu.
09:18
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:20
I'm fine, my body is fine.
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Ja sam u redu, moje telo je u redu.
09:22
You actually wouldn’t be able
to tell the difference
to tell the difference
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Zapravo, ne biste mogli da uočite razliku
između mene i nekog drugog
osim ako vam kažem;
osim ako vam kažem;
09:25
between me and another person
unless I told you;
unless I told you;
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09:28
you wouldn't be able to tell
that I was intersex unless I told you.
that I was intersex unless I told you.
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ne biste mogli da uočite
da sam interseksualna osim ako vam kažem.
da sam interseksualna osim ako vam kažem.
09:32
But again, because of the lack
of understanding about bodies,
of understanding about bodies,
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Ali opet, usled nerazumevanja naših tela,
09:35
my doctor didn't understand
the difference.
the difference.
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moj lekar nije razumeo razliku.
09:38
And for the most part,
my sex life is fine.
my sex life is fine.
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I, uglavnom, moj seksualni život je okej.
09:41
The only issue that really comes up
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Jedini problem koji iskrsne
09:43
is that sometimes, sexual situations
bring up memories of doctors touching me,
bring up memories of doctors touching me,
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je da ponekad seksualne situacije
izazivaju uspomene na to
izazivaju uspomene na to
kako su me lekari neprestano
dodirivali od 10. godine.
dodirivali od 10. godine.
09:49
over and over again since I was 10.
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09:53
I've been really lucky to escape --
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Jako sam srećna što sam izbegla -
09:56
I didn't think I would get emotional --
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mislila sam da neću biti emotivna -
09:59
I've been really lucky to escape
the physical harm
the physical harm
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jako sam srećna
što sam izbegla fizičku štetu
što sam izbegla fizičku štetu
10:03
that comes from these
unnecessary surgeries.
unnecessary surgeries.
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koja proizilazi
iz ovih nepotrebnih operacija.
iz ovih nepotrebnih operacija.
10:07
But no intersex person is free
from the emotional harm
from the emotional harm
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Ali nijedna interseksualna osoba
nije oslobođena emotivne štete
nije oslobođena emotivne štete
10:11
that comes from living in a society
that tries to cover up your existence.
that tries to cover up your existence.
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koja proizilazi iz života u društvu
koje pokušava da prikrije vaše postojanje.
koje pokušava da prikrije vaše postojanje.
10:17
Most of my intersex friends
have had operations like these.
have had operations like these.
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Većina mojih interseksualnih prijatelja
je imala ove operacije.
je imala ove operacije.
10:21
Oftentimes, they will remove
testes like mine,
testes like mine,
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Često uklanjaju testise kao što su moji,
10:24
even though my risk of testicular cancer
is lower than the risk of breast cancer
is lower than the risk of breast cancer
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iako je rizik od dobijanja raka testisa
niži od rizika od dobijanja raka grudi
niži od rizika od dobijanja raka grudi
10:31
in a typical woman with
no predisposition, no family history.
no predisposition, no family history.
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kod tipične žene bez predispozicija,
bez istorije raka u porodici.
bez istorije raka u porodici.
10:36
But we don't tell her
to remove her breasts, do we?
to remove her breasts, do we?
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Ali, ne govorimo ženama
da uklone grudi, zar ne?
da uklone grudi, zar ne?
10:42
It's rare to meet an intersex person
that hasn't been operated on.
that hasn't been operated on.
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Retkost je sresti interseksualnu osobu
koja nije operisana.
koja nije operisana.
10:48
Oftentimes, these surgeries are done
to improve intersex kids' lives,
to improve intersex kids' lives,
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Često, ove operacije se izvode kako bi
poboljšale život interseksualne dece,
poboljšale život interseksualne dece,
10:53
but they usually end up
doing the opposite,
doing the opposite,
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ali u stvari imaju suprotan efekat,
10:55
causing more harm and complications,
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i izazovu više štete i komplikacija,
10:59
both physical and emotional.
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i fizički i emotivno.
11:04
I'm not saying that
doctors are bad or evil.
doctors are bad or evil.
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Ne kažem da su lekari loši ili zli.
11:07
It's just that we live in a society
that causes some doctors to "fix"
that causes some doctors to "fix"
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Samo živimo u društvu
u kojem neki lekari „popravljaju“
u kojem neki lekari „popravljaju“
11:12
those of us who don't fit
their definition of normal.
their definition of normal.
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one koji se ne uklapaju
u njihovu definiciju normalnog.
u njihovu definiciju normalnog.
11:17
We're not problems that need to be fixed.
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Mi nismo problemi kojima treba rešenje.
11:21
We just live in a society
that needs to be enlightened.
that needs to be enlightened.
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Samo živimo u društvu
koje mora biti osvešćeno.
koje mora biti osvešćeno.
11:26
One of the ways I'm doing that
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Jedan od načina na koji to radim
11:27
is by creating a genderless
puberty guidebook
puberty guidebook
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je stvaranje bezrodnog
pubertetskog priručnika
pubertetskog priručnika
11:31
that can teach kids
about their bodies as they grow up.
about their bodies as they grow up.
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koji može da nauči decu
o njihovim telima dok odrastaju.
o njihovim telima dok odrastaju.
11:34
Not their girl bodies
or their boy bodies --
or their boy bodies --
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Ne o telima devojčica ili dečaka -
11:36
just their bodies.
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već samo o njihovim telima.
11:38
We often place unrealistic expectations
on the things that our bodies do
on the things that our bodies do
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Često postavljamo nerealna očekivanja
od stvari koja naša tela rade
od stvari koja naša tela rade
11:42
that are outside of our control.
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koje su izvan naše kontrole.
11:44
I mean, if one man can grow
a full, luxurious, hipster beard,
a full, luxurious, hipster beard,
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Mislim, ako jedan muškarac može
da ima pravu, raskošnu, hipstersku bradu,
da ima pravu, raskošnu, hipstersku bradu,
11:48
and the other can only grow
a few mustache hairs,
a few mustache hairs,
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a drugi samo nekoliko dlačica,
11:52
what does that mean
about who they are as men?
about who they are as men?
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šta to govori o tome
ko su oni kao muškarci?
ko su oni kao muškarci?
11:55
Nothing.
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Ništa.
11:57
It literally, most likely, just means
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To bukvalno, najverovatnije, samo znači
11:58
that their hair follicles
respond to testosterone in different ways.
respond to testosterone in different ways.
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da njihovi folikuli dlake
drugačije reaguju na testosteron.
drugačije reaguju na testosteron.
12:03
Yet, how many times have you heard
a man ashamed about something like this?
a man ashamed about something like this?
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Ipak, koliko puta ste čuli da se muškarac
postidi zbog nečega ovakvog?
postidi zbog nečega ovakvog?
12:10
Imagine a world where
we could live in a society
we could live in a society
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Zamislite svet u kome bismo mogli
da živimo u društvu
da živimo u društvu
12:13
that teaches us not to have shame
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koje nas uči da se ne stidimo
12:16
about the things
that our bodies do or do not do.
that our bodies do or do not do.
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stvari koje naša tela rade ili ne rade.
12:23
I want to change the way that we think
about biological sex in this society --
about biological sex in this society --
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Želim da promenim način razmišljanja
o biološkom polu u ovom društvu -
o biološkom polu u ovom društvu -
12:29
which is a lot to ask for.
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što je mnogo.
12:31
You could say it's ballsy, I guess.
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Mogli biste reći da je kuražno.
12:33
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:36
But eventually we accepted
the world as round, right?
the world as round, right?
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Ali na kraju smo prihvatili
da je zemlja okrugla, zar ne?
da je zemlja okrugla, zar ne?
12:40
We no longer diagnose gay people
with mental disorders
with mental disorders
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Gej ljudima ne dijagnostikujemo
mentalne poremećaje
mentalne poremećaje
12:43
or women with hysteria.
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ili ženama histeriju.
12:46
We don't think epilepsy is caused
by the devil anymore, so that's cool.
by the devil anymore, so that's cool.
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Više ne mislimo da epilepsiju
izaziva đavo, tako da je to okej.
izaziva đavo, tako da je to okej.
12:51
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:52
We constantly change and evolve,
the more we understand as a society.
the more we understand as a society.
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Mi se stalno menjamo i razvijamo,
što više razumevanja imamo kao društvo.
što više razumevanja imamo kao društvo.
12:57
And biological sex is on a spectrum.
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A biološki pol se nalazi na spektru.
12:59
It's not black or white.
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Nije crn ili beo.
13:01
Not only could that knowledge
save intersex kids
save intersex kids
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Ne samo da bi to saznanje
spasilo interseksualnu decu
spasilo interseksualnu decu
13:04
from physical and emotional harm,
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fizičke i emotivne štete,
13:06
I think it would help everyone else, too.
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nego bi i pomoglo svima.
13:09
Who here has ever felt
inadequate or ashamed
inadequate or ashamed
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Ko od vas se ikada osećao
neprikladno ili posramljeno
neprikladno ili posramljeno
13:13
because you weren't girly enough,
you were too girly,
you were too girly,
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jer niste bile dovoljno ženstvene,
jer ste bile previše ženstvene,
jer ste bile previše ženstvene,
13:16
you weren't manly enough, or too manly?
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jer niste bili dovoljno muževni,
ili ste bili previše muževni?
ili ste bili previše muževni?
13:19
We constantly shame people
for not fitting into a box,
for not fitting into a box,
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Stalno posramljujemo ljude
jer se ne uklapaju u kategoriju,
jer se ne uklapaju u kategoriju,
13:23
but the reality is,
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ali realnost je da,
13:24
I think we shame others
because it prevents them from seeing
because it prevents them from seeing
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po mom mišljenju, posramljujemo druge
da oni ne bi videli
da oni ne bi videli
13:28
that we don't fit
inside our boxes, either.
inside our boxes, either.
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da se ni mi ne uklapamo u našu kategoriju.
13:31
And the truth is that
nobody actually fits in a box,
nobody actually fits in a box,
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Istina je da se niko ne uklapa,
13:35
because they don't exist.
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jer kategorije ne postoje.
13:37
This binary, this false male-female facade
is something we constructed,
is something we constructed,
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Ova binarnost, lažna muško-žensko fasada
je nešto što smo mi stvorili,
je nešto što smo mi stvorili,
13:43
we built ourselves.
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sami smo je izgradili.
13:44
But it doesn't have to exist.
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Ali ne mora da postoji.
13:48
We can break it down.
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Možemo je uništiti.
13:50
And that's what I want to do.
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To je ono što želim da uradim.
13:54
Will you join me?
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Hoćete li mi se pridružiti?
13:57
Thanks.
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Hvala.
13:58
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Emily Quinn - Artist, activist, authorEmily Quinn describes herself as "a ballsy intersex activist who uses humor and storytelling to create a more welcoming world for people who don’t fit in a box."
Why you should listen
At age 10, Emily Quinn learned she was intersex. As she writes: "Doctors said not to tell anyone, poking and prodding at me like I was a science experiment. It was lonely, shameful, and I had nowhere to turn. I needed someone to tell me that it would be OK, but no one was there.
"Fourteen years later, I discovered an intersex support group, meeting hundreds of intersex people who endured trauma like mine. I knew it had to stop. I was working at Cartoon Network and decided to help create the first intersex main character on television: Lauren on MTV's 'Faking It.' I publicly came out as intersex alongside her debut, and suddenly I was bombarded with interviews, appearing in content across the web. The impact was so great that I quit my job, created a YouTube channel, began speaking globally about intersex experiences, and am now writing a YA novel. In ways I could have never imagined, I became the person I needed as a kid -- showing myself that one day it would be OK."
Emily Quinn | Speaker | TED.com