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Catherine Mohr: How I became part sea urchin
Catherine Mohr: Kako sam postala djelomičan morski ježinac
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Kao mlada znanstvenica, Catherine Mohr je bila na svojem ronilačkom putovanju iz snova -- tada je nabola ruku na morskog ježinca. Dok je skupina morskih pasa kružila iznad nje. Što se zatim dogodilo? Više no što možete uopće i zamisliti. Poslušajte ovu sjajnu priču s daškom znanosti.
Catherine Mohr - Roboticist
Catherine Mohr loves what she does -- she's just not ever sure what it will be next. Full bio
Catherine Mohr loves what she does -- she's just not ever sure what it will be next. Full bio
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00:12
My story starts in the northern
Galapagos Islands,
Galapagos Islands,
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Moja priča započinje
na sjeveru Galapagosa,
na sjeveru Galapagosa,
00:16
under 50 feet of water
and a big school of sharks.
and a big school of sharks.
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15 m ispod površine
i velike skupine morskih pasa.
i velike skupine morskih pasa.
00:20
I'd been scuba diving with a group
of friends for about a week,
of friends for about a week,
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Ronila sam s prijateljima tjedan dana
00:23
and it had been glorious:
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i bilo je prekrasno:
00:24
manta rays, whale sharks,
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mante, kitopsine,
00:27
penguins and, of course,
hammerhead sharks.
hammerhead sharks.
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pingvini i, naravno, morski psi čekićari.
00:30
Today's dive was particularly tricky.
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Toga dana je ronjenje bilo posebno teško.
00:34
The surge was terrible.
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Struja je bila snažna.
00:35
You had to have your camera rig tight in
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Morao si fotoaparat
čvrsto držati jednom rukom,
čvrsto držati jednom rukom,
00:37
and your arm out,
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drugu držati ispruženom,
00:38
because the surge kept
throwing you into the rocks
throwing you into the rocks
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jer te struja bacala prema stijenama,
dok gledaš kako ćeš napraviti
savršenu fotografiju.
savršenu fotografiju.
00:41
while you're scanning up
for that beautiful photograph.
for that beautiful photograph.
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00:43
It was going OK, until ...
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Sve je bilo u redu dok...
00:46
not OK.
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nije prestalo biti.
00:47
Something was terribly, terribly wrong.
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Nešto stvarno nije bilo u redu.
00:51
I pulled my hand back,
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Povukla sam ruku,
00:53
and I had long, black sea urchin spines
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a duge, crne bodlje morskog ježinca
00:56
all the way through my gloves,
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virile su iz moje rukavice,
00:57
which meant all the way through my hand.
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odnosno prolazile kroz cijelu moju šaku.
01:00
Now, this is bad.
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To nije dobro.
01:02
I mean, obviously when you have something
all the way through your hand,
all the way through your hand,
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Kada vam nešto prođe kroz šaku,
to je uvijek loše,
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it's kind of bad anyway,
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01:07
but in this case, sea urchins
have a venom on them that,
have a venom on them that,
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ali u ovom slučaju,
morski ježevi imaju otrov koji,
morski ježevi imaju otrov koji,
01:11
if you've ever tangled with them,
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ako ste ikad imali posla s njima,
01:12
you know that a sea urchin spine in you
gives you horrible, painful inflammation.
gives you horrible, painful inflammation.
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znate da vam njihove bodlje zadaju
strašnu, bolnu upalu.
strašnu, bolnu upalu.
01:17
But that wasn't even topmost
in my mind at this point.
in my mind at this point.
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No, to mi tada čak
nije bilo toliko na pameti.
nije bilo toliko na pameti.
01:20
This did not look real.
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Sve je izgledalo nestvarno.
01:22
I could not believe that this was my hand.
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Nisam mogla vjerovati da je to moja šaka.
01:25
Now, in a crisis, I tend to disassociate
into, like, little scientists,
into, like, little scientists,
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U kriznim situacijama
razmišljam poput znanstvenika
razmišljam poput znanstvenika
01:29
and I start talking very analytically.
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i počnem analizirati.
01:32
All analysis was gone,
adrenaline brain kicked in,
adrenaline brain kicked in,
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Sve analize su nestale,
adrenalin je počeo djelovati
adrenalin je počeo djelovati
01:35
and I just yanked the spines out.
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i samo sam istrgnula bodlje.
01:38
I don't remember doing it.
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Uopće se ne sjećam da sam to napravila.
01:41
I just remember thinking, "I can't
get my glove off with these in here."
get my glove off with these in here."
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Sjećam se da sam razmišljala, "Ne mogu
skinuti rukavicu s bodljama u ruci."
skinuti rukavicu s bodljama u ruci."
01:45
I do remember taking the glove off
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Sjećam se kako sam skinula rukavicu
01:47
and a big plume of black
coming up in front of my face.
coming up in front of my face.
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i veliki crni oblak
krenuo je prema mom licu.
krenuo je prema mom licu.
01:51
And biologist brain now shows up
and starts freaking out.
and starts freaking out.
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Sada se javlja razmišljanje biologa
koji počinje ludjeti.
koji počinje ludjeti.
01:56
"How could all that toxin
have gotten into that wound already?"
have gotten into that wound already?"
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"Kako je već toliko otrova
uspjelo ući u ranu?"
uspjelo ući u ranu?"
01:59
Well, physicist brain then shows up
and very calmly explains,
and very calmly explains,
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Tada se pojavljuje fizičar
i smireno objašnjava,
i smireno objašnjava,
02:03
"No, no, no, we're at 50 feet,
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"Nalazimo se na 15 metara,
02:05
red wavelengths are attenuated.
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crvena je slabije vidljiva.
02:06
That's blood -- not black.
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To je krv - nije crna boja.
02:10
And sharks.
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I morski psi.
02:12
So what are you gonna do?"
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Što ćeš napraviti?"
02:14
Well, I cranked my cummerbund
down really hard over my hand,
down really hard over my hand,
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Pritisnula sam ronilački pojas
čvrsto preko ruke
čvrsto preko ruke
02:19
and I simply swam away.
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i jednostavno otplivala.
02:23
"Let's let that big old cloud of blood
dissipate a bit before we have to surface
dissipate a bit before we have to surface
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"Neka se oblak krvi rasprši prije izrona
02:28
through all of these sharks."
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kroz morske pse."
02:30
So when I did surface,
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Kada sam izronila,
02:31
my warm-blooded-mammal brain
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moj mozak sisavca je bio
02:33
was in an absolute gibbering panic:
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u potpunoj panici:
02:35
"They don't feed when they're schooling.
They don't feed when they're schooling.
They don't feed when they're schooling.
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"Ne hrane se kad su u skupinama.
02:39
All the way up."
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Cijelim putem izrona."
02:41
And they didn't.
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I nisu.
02:42
So apparently, they have read
the same books that I have.
the same books that I have.
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Čini se da su pročitali
iste knjige kao i ja.
iste knjige kao i ja.
02:45
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:47
Now, it turns out,
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Ispostavilo se,
02:48
when you've been stabbed
with sea urchin spines,
with sea urchin spines,
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ukoliko ste se naboli na morskog ježa
02:50
and you're two days away
from any medical help,
from any medical help,
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i udaljeni ste dva dana
od ikakve medicinske pomoći,
od ikakve medicinske pomoći,
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the thing that you've got to do
is, unfortunately, cook your hand.
is, unfortunately, cook your hand.
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morate, nažalost, skuhati vlastitu šaku.
02:58
So you put it in water
as hot as you can stand,
as hot as you can stand,
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Stavite je u čim topliju vodu
03:01
and you keep adding boiling water
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i dodajete kipuću vodu
03:02
until you think you will go
absolutely insane.
absolutely insane.
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dok ne pomislite da ćete poludjeti.
03:06
Now, it worked --
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Upalilo je --
03:08
the hand itself did not work so well
for several weeks after that,
for several weeks after that,
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šaka nije baš funkcionirala
nekoliko tjedana nakon toga,
nekoliko tjedana nakon toga,
03:12
but eventually,
fine motor skills returned.
fine motor skills returned.
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ali s vremenom su se vratile
fine motoričke sposobnosti.
fine motoričke sposobnosti.
03:15
All except for one spot, that stayed
stiff and painful for weeks
stiff and painful for weeks
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Sve osim jednog mjesta
koje je ostalo kruto i bolno,
koje je ostalo kruto i bolno,
03:20
after the other things had gotten better.
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još tjednima nakon toga.
03:22
So it turned out, I'd broken off
a tip of the urchin spine
a tip of the urchin spine
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Ispostavilo se da je vrh bodlje
03:26
in the joint itself,
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ostao u samom zglobu
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and that's why it wasn't getting better.
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te stoga nije bilo poboljšanja.
03:30
So the orthopedist says,
"You know, we should get this out.
"You know, we should get this out.
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Ortoped je rekao,
"Znate, moramo to izvaditi.
"Znate, moramo to izvaditi.
03:33
Nothing too urgent, not an emergency."
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Nije ništa hitno."
03:36
So we scheduled a small surgery
for a few weeks out on a Monday.
for a few weeks out on a Monday.
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Zakazali smo operaciju
za ponedjeljak za nekoliko tjedana.
za ponedjeljak za nekoliko tjedana.
03:40
And on the Friday before,
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U petak prije toga,
03:42
I broke my pelvis
in a horseback riding accident.
in a horseback riding accident.
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slomila sam zdjelicu nakon pada s konja.
03:46
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
03:47
Yeah.
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Tako je.
03:49
So we kind of postponed that surgery.
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Pa smo odgodili operaciju.
03:52
My broken pelvis and I were now
facing six weeks on the couch,
facing six weeks on the couch,
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Moju slomljenu zdjelicu i mene
sad je čekalo 6 tjedana ležanja
sad je čekalo 6 tjedana ležanja
03:57
and I would have gone absolutely insane
if it hadn't been for my friends.
if it hadn't been for my friends.
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i mislim da bih poludjela
da nije bilo mojih prijatelja.
da nije bilo mojih prijatelja.
04:02
Spontaneous parties broke out
at my house every night for weeks.
at my house every night for weeks.
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Spontane zabave su bile
kod mene svake večeri.
kod mene svake večeri.
04:05
I was fed. I was entertained.
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Hranili su me. Zabavljali.
04:07
It was great.
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Bilo je odlično.
04:10
But that kind of enthusiasm is sort of
hard to sustain over the long term,
hard to sustain over the long term,
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No, takav entuzijazam je teško
održati duže vrijeme
održati duže vrijeme
04:13
and eventually it petered down
to just one friend,
to just one friend,
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pa se s vremenom svelo
na jednog prijatelja,
na jednog prijatelja,
04:17
who would send me jokes during the day
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koji bi mi slao šale tijekom dana
04:19
and come and keep me company
in the evenings --
in the evenings --
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i dolazio me zabavljati navečer --
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someone I got to know a whole lot better
during this period of convalescence.
during this period of convalescence.
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netko koga sam dobro upoznala
tijekom razdoblja oporavka.
tijekom razdoblja oporavka.
04:26
And when I was finally
pronounced well enough
pronounced well enough
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Kada sam konačno postala dovoljno zdrava
04:28
to do weight-bearing activities,
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da mogu podizati teret,
04:30
we loaded a telescope in the car
and drove up into the mountains
and drove up into the mountains
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utovarili smo teleskop u auto
i odvezli se u planine
i odvezli se u planine
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to look at the Hale–Bopp comet.
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gledati Hale-Boppov komet.
04:35
Yes, we are geeks.
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Da, mi smo geekovi.
04:37
And got caught in a landslide.
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Zatekli smo se na klizištu tla.
04:39
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
04:41
I know -- like, really?
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Znam, da, ono, stvarno?
04:44
No. Just kidding.
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Ne. Samo se šalim.
04:45
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
04:46
No more disasters. No.
Just the opposite, in fact.
Just the opposite, in fact.
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Nije više bilo nesreća.
Zapravo, posve suprotno.
Zapravo, posve suprotno.
04:49
That was 21 years ago,
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To je bilo prije 21 godinu,
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and for 19 of those years,
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od čega sam 19 godina udana
04:53
I have been married
to that marvelous introvert
to that marvelous introvert
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za tog predivnog introverta,
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who never in a million years
would have approached me
would have approached me
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koji mi nikad ne bi pristupio
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under other circumstances.
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da su okolnosti bile drugačije.
05:01
We have a wonderful 14-year-old daughter,
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Imamo predivnu 14-godišnju kćer,
05:03
who did all my illustrations.
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koja je napravila sve ilustracije.
05:04
(Cheers and applause)
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(Pljesak)
05:06
Yeah.
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Da.
05:07
So, pro tip:
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Dakle, profesionalni savjet:
05:08
apparently, nothing makes you sexier
than needing a walker
than needing a walker
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ništa nije više seksi,
nego štap za hodanje
nego štap za hodanje
05:11
on your first date.
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na prvom spoju.
05:13
So this isn't a story about piercings
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Ovo nije priča o ubodima,
05:16
or sharks or boilings or breakings.
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morskim psima, kuhanju ili prekidima.
05:18
It's a love story.
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Ovo je ljubavna priča.
05:20
It's a love story with
a funny little epilogue.
a funny little epilogue.
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Ljubavna priča sa smiješnim epilogom.
05:24
Now I was weight-bearing again,
I could reschedule that surgery,
I could reschedule that surgery,
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Sad kad sam opet mogla nositi teret,
mogla sam zakazati operaciju
mogla sam zakazati operaciju
05:28
get the spine out.
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i izvaditi bodlju.
05:30
But I didn't need it anymore.
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Ali nije mi više bila potrebna.
05:32
Turns out, when you break a bone,
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Ispostavilo se, kada slomite kost,
05:34
your body scavenges calcium
from all the bones in your body --
from all the bones in your body --
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vaše tijelo skuplja kalcij
iz svih kostiju vašeg tijela --
iz svih kostiju vašeg tijela --
05:38
and from the little sea urchin spine
that you happen to have lodged
that you happen to have lodged
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pa i iz bodlje morskog ježa
koja se nalazila
koja se nalazila
05:41
in the joint of your finger.
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u zglobu vašeg prsta.
05:44
So yes,
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Dakle, da,
05:46
my pelvis is now part sea urchin.
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moja zdjelica je sada
djelomično morski ježinac.
djelomično morski ježinac.
05:49
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
05:51
So to biology brain, physicist brain,
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Mozgu biologa, mozgu fizičara,
05:54
adrenaline brain,
warm-blooded-mammal brain,
warm-blooded-mammal brain,
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adrenalinskom mozgu, mozgu sisavca,
05:56
I get to add "urchin brain,"
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sada mogu dodati i
"mozak morskog ježa",
"mozak morskog ježa",
05:58
with all of the superpowers
that that confers.
that that confers.
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sa svim moćima koje on donosi.
06:02
You don't need to worry, though:
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Ali, ne trebate brinuti:
06:03
that I am not fully human
is one of the things
is one of the things
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to što nisam posve ljudsko biće,
moja obitelj na meni najviše voli.
06:06
that my family loves the most about me.
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06:08
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
06:09
Thank you very much.
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Puno hvala.
06:10
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Catherine Mohr - RoboticistCatherine Mohr loves what she does -- she's just not ever sure what it will be next.
Why you should listen
An engineer turned surgeon turned strategist, Catherine Mohr is always on the lookout for new technologies to help improve patient outcomes while trying to stay in her sweet spot -- the steep part of the learning curve.
As VP of Strategy for Intuitive Surgical in Silicon Valley, faculty at Singularity University and advisor to med-tech startups in the UK, the US and her native New Zealand, Mohr follows her self-admittedly geeky passions wherever they lead her, as she designs, makes, writes, tinkers, plays and travels all over the world.
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