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Lýdia Machová: The secrets of learning a new language
Lidiya Maxova: Yangi tillar o'rganish sirlari
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Yangi til o'rganishni xoxlaysiz, lekin nimadan boshlashni bilmaysizmi? Sizga buning uchun alohida qobiliyatga ega bo'lish yoki sizda "til o'rganish geni" bo'lishi shart emas, ta'kidlaydi Lidiya Maxova. O'zining optimistik va ilhomlantiruvchi chiqishida ma'ruzachi poliglotlarning sirlari bilan ulashadi va sizning til o'rganishga bo'lgan yashirin qobiliyatingizni kashf etishga va bundan zavq olishga yordam beradigan to'rtta qoida bilan tanishtiradi.
Lýdia Machová - Language mentor
Lýdia Machová teaches people how they can learn any language by themselves. Full bio
Lýdia Machová teaches people how they can learn any language by themselves. Full bio
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00:13
I love learning foreign languages.
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Men chet tillarini o'rganishni yoqtiraman.
00:16
In fact, I love it so much that I like
to learn a new language every two years,
to learn a new language every two years,
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Menga bu mashg'ulot shunchalik yoqadiki,
men har ikki yilda yangi til o'rganaman.
men har ikki yilda yangi til o'rganaman.
00:20
currently working on my eighth one.
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Hozirda esa sakkizinchisini o'rganayapman.
00:22
When people find that out about me,
they always ask me,
they always ask me,
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Odamlar bu haqda xabar topganlarida
doim so'rashadi:
doim so'rashadi:
00:25
"How do you do that? What's your secret?"
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"Buni qanday qilasan? Siring nimada?"
00:27
And to be honest, for many years,
my answer would be,
my answer would be,
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To'g'risini aytsam, yillar davomida
shunday deb kelganman:
shunday deb kelganman:
00:30
"I don't know. I simply
love learning languages."
love learning languages."
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"Bilmadim. Men til o'rganishni
yoqtiraman xolos".
yoqtiraman xolos".
00:33
But people were never
happy with that answer.
happy with that answer.
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Ammo bu javob odamlarni hech
ham qoniqtirmasdi.
ham qoniqtirmasdi.
00:36
They wanted to know why they are spending
years trying to learn even one language,
years trying to learn even one language,
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Ular bitta til o'rganish uchun yillarni
sarflasa ham, nega yuqori darajaga erisha
sarflasa ham, nega yuqori darajaga erisha
00:40
never achieving fluency,
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olmasligini bilishni istashardi.
00:41
and here I come, learning
one language after another.
one language after another.
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Shunday bir holatda ular oldida ko'p
tillarni o'rganuvchi men...
tillarni o'rganuvchi men...
00:44
They wanted to know
the secret of polyglots,
the secret of polyglots,
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Ular poliglotlar, ko'p tillarda
so'zlay oluvchi
so'zlay oluvchi
00:46
people who speak a lot of languages.
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insonlar sirini bilishni xohlashadi.
00:49
And that made me wonder, too,
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Bunga men ham qiziqib qoldim,
00:50
how do actually other polyglots do it?
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aslida poliglotlar buni qanday
uddalashadi?
uddalashadi?
00:53
What do we have in common?
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Umumiy tomonlarimiz nimada?
00:54
And what is it that enables us
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Bizga boshqa insonlarga nisbatan tilni
00:56
to learn languages
so much faster than other people?
so much faster than other people?
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tezroq tilni o'zlashtirishga nima
yordam beradi?
yordam beradi?
00:59
I decided to meet other people
like me and find that out.
like me and find that out.
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Poliglotlar bilan ko'rishib,
buni aniqlashga qaror qildim.
buni aniqlashga qaror qildim.
01:03
The best place to meet a lot of polyglots
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Eng oson yo'li - bir vaqtning o'zida bir
01:05
is an event where hundreds
of language lovers
of language lovers
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nechasini uchratish, yuzlab poliglotlar
bir joyda
bir joyda
01:08
meet in one place
to practice their languages.
to practice their languages.
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yig'ilib, tajriba almashadigan tadbirda.
01:11
There are several such polyglot events
organized all around the world,
organized all around the world,
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Dunyo miqyosida o'tkaziladigan bir nechta
poliglotlar tadbirlari bor.
poliglotlar tadbirlari bor.
01:14
and so I decided to go there
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Men shu tadbirlarga bordim,
01:15
and ask polyglots
about the methods that they use.
about the methods that they use.
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poliglotlardan o'zlarining metodlari
haqda so'radim.
haqda so'radim.
01:19
And so I met Benny from Ireland,
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Men irlandiyalik Benni bilan tanishdim.
01:21
who told me that his method
is to start speaking from day one.
is to start speaking from day one.
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Aytishicha, uning metodi birinchi kundanoq
muloqot qilishga intilishdan iborat.
muloqot qilishga intilishdan iborat.
01:26
He learns a few phrases
from a travel phrasebook
from a travel phrasebook
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U so'zlashgichdan bir necha iboralarni
o'rganadi va shu tilda
o'rganadi va shu tilda
01:29
and goes to meet native speakers
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gaplashuvchi odam bilan tanishib,
01:30
and starts having conversations
with them right away.
with them right away.
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ortga surmasdan darrov muloqot
qilishni boshlaydi.
qilishni boshlaydi.
01:33
He doesn't mind making
even 200 mistakes a day,
even 200 mistakes a day,
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U kuniga 200 marta xato qilsa ham
bundan havotir olmaydi.
bundan havotir olmaydi.
01:36
because that's how he learns,
based on the feedback.
based on the feedback.
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Chunki u shunday o'rganadi,
muloqot orqali.
muloqot orqali.
01:39
And the best thing is, he doesn't
even need to travel a lot today,
even need to travel a lot today,
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Hozirgi kunda buning uchun sayohat qilish
ham shartmas, bu ajoyib!
ham shartmas, bu ajoyib!
01:42
because you can easily have
conversations with native speakers
conversations with native speakers
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Chunki hozir boshqa tilda gapiruvchilar
bilan so'zlashish oson
bilan so'zlashish oson
01:45
from the comfort of
your living room, using websites.
your living room, using websites.
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va buni o'z xonangizdan chiqmasdan
ham qila olasiz.
ham qila olasiz.
01:48
I also met Lucas from Brazil
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Men braziliyalik Lukasni uchratdim,
01:50
who had a really interesting
method to learn Russian.
method to learn Russian.
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uning rus tilini o'rganish metodi
bilan tanishdim.
bilan tanishdim.
01:53
He simply added a hundred random
Russian speakers on Skype as friends,
Russian speakers on Skype as friends,
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U Skype'da istalgan yuzlab ruslarga
do'stlik takliflari yuboradi,
do'stlik takliflari yuboradi,
01:58
and then he opened
a chat window with one of them
a chat window with one of them
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va istalgan bittasini tanlab chat
oynasini ochadi.
oynasini ochadi.
02:02
and wrote "Hi" in Russian.
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Va "Привет" deb yozadi.
02:05
And the person replied, "Hi, how are you?"
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U inson "Привет, как дела?" javob yozadi.
02:07
Lucas copied this and put it
into a text window with another person,
into a text window with another person,
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Lukas buni "копировать" qiladi va boshqa
bir chatga tashlaydi,
bir chatga tashlaydi,
02:12
and the person replied,
"I'm fine, thank you, and how are you?"
"I'm fine, thank you, and how are you?"
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u chatdagi inson esa bunga: "Я хорошо,
спасибо, а как ты?" deb yozadi.
спасибо, а как ты?" deb yozadi.
02:15
Lucas copied this
back to the first person,
back to the first person,
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Lukas buni ham nusxalaydi va birinchi
insonga yuboradi.
insonga yuboradi.
02:18
and in this way, he had two strangers
have a conversation with each other
have a conversation with each other
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Va shu yo'l bilan u orqali ikkita inson
o'zlari bilmagan holda
o'zlari bilmagan holda
02:22
without knowing about it.
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bir-biri bilan gaplashadi.
02:23
(Laughter)
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(Kulgu)
02:24
And soon he would start typing himself,
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Tez orada o'zi ham yozishni boshlaydi.
02:26
because he had so many
of these conversations
of these conversations
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Suhbatlar soni ko'payib,
02:28
that he figured out how
the Russian conversation usually starts.
the Russian conversation usually starts.
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endi uning o'zi ham tushuna boshlaydi.
02:32
What an ingenious method, right?
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Mohirona metod, shunday emasmi?
02:34
And then I met polyglots who always start
by imitating sounds of the language,
by imitating sounds of the language,
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Keyin men o'rganishni shu tildagi
tovushlarni qo'llash bilan boshlaydigan,
tovushlarni qo'llash bilan boshlaydigan,
02:38
and others who always learn the 500
most frequent words of the language,
most frequent words of the language,
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shu tilda eng ko'p ishlatiladigan 500 ta
so'zdan boshlaydigan, va hattoki
so'zdan boshlaydigan, va hattoki
02:43
and yet others who always start
by reading about the grammar.
by reading about the grammar.
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grammatikasini o'rganish bilan
boshlaydiganlarni ham ko'rdim.
boshlaydiganlarni ham ko'rdim.
02:47
If I asked a hundred different polyglots,
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Yuzlab poliglotlardan so'rab,
02:49
I heard a hundred different
approaches to learning languages.
approaches to learning languages.
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siz yuzta tur xil usullarni eshitishingiz
mumkin.
mumkin.
02:53
Everybody seems to have a unique way
they learn a language,
they learn a language,
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Har birining o'zining til o'rganish
metodi bor,
metodi bor,
02:57
and yet we all come to the same result
of speaking several languages fluently.
of speaking several languages fluently.
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lekin hammamiz bir xil natijaga erishamiz:
bir necha tilda oson gapiramiz.
bir necha tilda oson gapiramiz.
03:02
And as I was listening to these polyglots
telling me about their methods,
telling me about their methods,
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O'z usullari haqida gapirayotgan barcha
poliglotlarni tinglayotib,
poliglotlarni tinglayotib,
03:06
it suddenly dawned on me:
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men shuni tushundim,
03:08
the one thing we all have in common
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bizni bir narsa bog'laydi:
03:11
is that we simply found ways to enjoy
the language-learning process.
the language-learning process.
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biz til o'rganish jarayonidan zavq
olishning yo'llarini topganmiz xolos.
olishning yo'llarini topganmiz xolos.
03:17
All of these polyglots
were talking about language learning
were talking about language learning
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Barcha poliglotlar o'zlarining til
o'rganishlari haqida
o'rganishlari haqida
03:20
as if it was great fun.
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zavqlanib gapirishardi.
03:21
You should have seen their faces
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Ularni bir ko'rsangiz edi.
03:23
when they were showing me
their colorful grammar charts
their colorful grammar charts
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Rangli grammatik jadvallarini
namoyish etishlari,
namoyish etishlari,
03:25
and their carefully handmade flash cards,
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qo'lda yasalgan yangi so'zlar yozilgan
kartochkalar,
kartochkalar,
03:28
and their statistics
about learning vocabulary using apps,
about learning vocabulary using apps,
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va ularning dasturlar orqali so'z
o'rganish statistikalarini.
o'rganish statistikalarini.
03:31
or even how they love to cook
based on recipes in a foreign language.
based on recipes in a foreign language.
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Hattoki chet tilida yozilgan retseptlar
bo'yicha ovqatlar tayyorlashar edi.
bo'yicha ovqatlar tayyorlashar edi.
03:36
All of them use different methods,
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Har kim har xil metodlar qo'llaydi.
03:38
but they always make sure
it's something that they personally enjoy.
it's something that they personally enjoy.
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Shu bilan birga ular tanlagan metod
ularga zavq olibn kelishiga untilishadi.
ularga zavq olibn kelishiga untilishadi.
03:42
I realized that this is actually
how I learn languages myself.
how I learn languages myself.
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Aslida men ham shunga o'xshash yo'l
bilan til o'rganishimni tushundim.
bilan til o'rganishimni tushundim.
03:46
When I was learning Spanish,
I was bored with the text in the textbook.
I was bored with the text in the textbook.
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Men ispan tilini o'rganayotganimda
darslikdagi matnlardan zerikkan edim.
darslikdagi matnlardan zerikkan edim.
03:49
I mean, who wants to read about Jose
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Temiryo'l bekatiga qanday o'tish
03:51
asking about the directions
to the train station. Right?
to the train station. Right?
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haqida so'rayotgan Xose haqida o'qish
kimga qiziq, to'g'rimi?
kimga qiziq, to'g'rimi?
03:54
I wanted to read "Harry Potter" instead,
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O'rniga men "Garri Potter"ni
o'qishni xoxladim,
o'qishni xoxladim,
03:57
because that was
my favorite book as a child,
my favorite book as a child,
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juda ko'p marotaba o'qigan, bolalik
03:59
and I have read it many times.
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davrimdagi eng sevimli kitobim.
04:00
So I got the Spanish translation
of "Harry Potter" and started reading,
of "Harry Potter" and started reading,
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"Garri Potter"ning ispancha tarjimasini
topdim va o'qishi boshladim.
topdim va o'qishi boshladim.
04:04
and sure enough, I didn't understand
almost anything at the beginning,
almost anything at the beginning,
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Boshida, albatta, men deyarli hech
narsani tushunmadim, lekin bu
narsani tushunmadim, lekin bu
04:07
but I kept on reading
because I loved the book,
because I loved the book,
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kitobni yoqtirganim uchun o'qishda
davom etdim.
davom etdim.
04:10
and by the end of the book, I was able
to follow it almost without any problems.
to follow it almost without any problems.
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Va oxiriga kelganimda muammolarsiz
tushuna boshladim.
tushuna boshladim.
04:14
And the same thing happened
when I was learning German.
when I was learning German.
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Xuddi shu holat nemis tilini
boshlaganimda ham bo'ldi.
boshlaganimda ham bo'ldi.
04:16
I decided to watch "Friends,"
my favorite sitcom, in German,
my favorite sitcom, in German,
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Sevimli serialim "Friends"ni nemis tilida
ko'rishga qaror qildim,
ko'rishga qaror qildim,
04:20
and again, at the beginning
it was all just gibberish.
it was all just gibberish.
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va yana boshida hammasi tushunarsiz edi.
04:23
I didn't know where one word finished
and another one started,
and another one started,
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Qachon bitta so'z tugab, boshqasi
boshlanayotganini tushunmasdim.
boshlanayotganini tushunmasdim.
04:26
but I kept on watching every day
because it's "Friends."
because it's "Friends."
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Lekin har kuni ko'rishda davom etdim,
chunki bu Friends.
chunki bu Friends.
04:29
I can watch it in any language.
I love it so much.
I love it so much.
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Men uni istalgan tilda ko'rishim mumkin,
juda
juda
04:31
And after the second or third season,
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yoqtiraman.
Va nihoyat 2-3 fasldan keyin
Va nihoyat 2-3 fasldan keyin
04:33
seriously, the dialogue
started to make sense.
started to make sense.
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men ular nima deyotganini tushuna
boshladim.
boshladim.
04:37
I only realized this
after meeting other polyglots.
after meeting other polyglots.
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Boshqa poliglotlar bilan ko'rishgach,
shuni tushundim:
shuni tushundim:
04:40
We are no geniuses
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bizlar daho emasmiz, bizda tezkor
04:41
and we have no shortcut
to learning languages.
to learning languages.
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va oddiy til o'rganish
usullari ham yo'q.
usullari ham yo'q.
04:44
We simply found ways
how to enjoy the process,
how to enjoy the process,
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Biz faqat bu jarayondan zavqlana olamiz.
04:48
how to turn language learning
from a boring school subject
from a boring school subject
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Til o'rganishni zerikarli maktab darsidan
04:51
into a pleasant activity
which you don't mind doing every day.
which you don't mind doing every day.
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har kungi yoqimli mashg'ulotga
aylantirgan holda. Agar siz
aylantirgan holda. Agar siz
04:55
If you don't like writing
words down on paper,
words down on paper,
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so'zlarni qog'ozga yozishni
yoqtirmasangiz,
yoqtirmasangiz,
04:57
you can always type them in an app.
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ularni dasturda saqlashingiz
mumkin.
mumkin.
04:59
If you don't like listening
to boring textbook material,
to boring textbook material,
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Agar darslikdagi zerikarli materiallarni
eshitishni
eshitishni
05:02
find interesting content on YouTube
or in podcasts for any language.
or in podcasts for any language.
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xohlamasangiz, unda YouTube yoki
podkastlarni shu tilda topishingiz mumkin.
podkastlarni shu tilda topishingiz mumkin.
05:06
If you're a more introverted person
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Agar siz introvert bo'lsangiz,
05:08
and you can't imagine speaking
to native speakers right away,
to native speakers right away,
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va kim bilandir muloqotni tasavvur
qila olmasangiz, unda
qila olmasangiz, unda
05:11
you can apply the method of self-talk.
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ichki monolog metodidan foydalanishingiz
mumkin.
mumkin.
05:13
You can talk to yourself
in the comfort of your room,
in the comfort of your room,
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O'z xonangizda hotirjam o'z-o'zingiz
bilan gaplashing,
bilan gaplashing,
05:16
describing your plans for the weekend,
how your day has been,
how your day has been,
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hafta rejasini, kun qanday o'tganini
gapirib bergan,
gapirib bergan,
05:19
or even take a random
picture from your phone
picture from your phone
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yoki telefondagi istalgan bir rasmni olib,
05:21
and describe the picture
to your imaginary friend.
to your imaginary friend.
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uni tasvirlab bergan holda.
05:25
This is how polyglots learn languages,
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Mana poliglotlar tillarni qanday
o'rganadi.
o'rganadi.
05:27
and the best news is,
it's available to anyone
it's available to anyone
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Eng yaxshi tomoni shuki, bu til
o'rganishni xoxlagan
o'rganishni xoxlagan
05:30
who is willing to take the learning
into their own hands.
into their own hands.
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barcha uchun qulaydir.
05:34
So meeting other polyglots
helped me realize
helped me realize
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Boshqa poliglotlar bilan uchrashuv menga
05:36
that it is really crucial
to find enjoyment
to find enjoyment
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til o'rganishdan zavqlana olish juda muhim
05:39
in the process of learning languages,
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ekanligini tushunishimga yordam berdi.
05:41
but also that joy in itself is not enough.
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Lekin bitta buning o'zi kamlik qiladi.
05:45
If you want to achieve fluency
in a foreign language,
in a foreign language,
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Agar ma'lum bir tilda erkin muloqot
qilishni xoxlasangiz,
qilishni xoxlasangiz,
05:48
you'll also need to apply
three more principles.
three more principles.
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siz yana uchta qoidaga amal qilishingiz
kerak.
kerak.
05:51
First of all, you'll need
effective methods.
effective methods.
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Birinchidan, samarali metodlardan
foydalaning.
foydalaning.
05:55
If you try to memorize a list of words
for a test tomorrow,
for a test tomorrow,
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Agar siz ertaga testda tushadigan
so'zlarni yodlashga harakat qilsangiz,
so'zlarni yodlashga harakat qilsangiz,
05:58
the words will be stored
in your short-term memory
in your short-term memory
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so'zlar sizning qisqa xotirangizga
joylashadi,
joylashadi,
06:01
and you'll forget them after a few days.
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siz ularni bir necha kun o'tib unutasiz.
06:03
If you, however,
want to keep words long term,
want to keep words long term,
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Agar so'zlar uzoq xotirada saqlanishini
xoxlasangiz,
xoxlasangiz,
06:06
you need to revise them
in the course of a few days repeatedly
in the course of a few days repeatedly
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siz ularni bir necha kun davomida
takrorlab yurishingiz kerak,
takrorlab yurishingiz kerak,
06:09
using the so-called space repetition.
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intervalli takrorlash yordamida.
06:11
You can use apps which are based
on this system such as Anki or Memrise,
on this system such as Anki or Memrise,
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Siz buning uchun Anki yoki Memrise
kabi dasturlarni qo'llashingiz mumkin.
kabi dasturlarni qo'llashingiz mumkin.
06:15
or you can write lists of word
in a notebook using the Goldlist method,
in a notebook using the Goldlist method,
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Yoki poliglotlar orasida keng
qo'llaniladigan "Oltin ro'yhat" metodi
qo'llaniladigan "Oltin ro'yhat" metodi
06:19
which is also very popular
with many polyglots.
with many polyglots.
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ya'ni daftarga so'zlarni yozib borishdan
foydalaning.
foydalaning.
06:21
If you're not sure which methods are
effective and what is available out there,
effective and what is available out there,
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Agar qaysidir metod samarali yoki
qulayligiga ishonchingiz komil bo'lmasa,
qulayligiga ishonchingiz komil bo'lmasa,
06:25
just check out polyglots'
YouTube channels and websites
YouTube channels and websites
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poliglotlarning YouTube kanallari va
vebsaytlarini kuzating,
vebsaytlarini kuzating,
06:28
and get inspiration from them.
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ulardan ilhomlanish mumkin.
06:30
If it works for them,
it will most probably work for you too.
it will most probably work for you too.
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Agar bu usullar ularda ishlasa,
sizga ham asqotishi kerak.
sizga ham asqotishi kerak.
06:34
The third principle to follow
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Uchinchi qoida, bu o'rganish jarayonda
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is to create a system in your learning.
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tizimli yondashuvni qo'llay olish.
06:39
We're all very busy and no one
really has time to learn a language today.
really has time to learn a language today.
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Biz hammamiz juda bandmiz va odatda
bizga til o'rganish uchun vaqt yetmaydi.
bizga til o'rganish uchun vaqt yetmaydi.
06:43
But we can create that time
if we just plan a bit ahead.
if we just plan a bit ahead.
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Lekin biz agar hammasini oldindan
rejalashtirsak bo'sh vaqt topa olamiz.
rejalashtirsak bo'sh vaqt topa olamiz.
06:47
Can you wake up 15 minutes earlier
than you normally do?
than you normally do?
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Siz odatdagidan 15 daqiqa oldinroq
uyg'ona olasizmi?
uyg'ona olasizmi?
06:51
That would be the perfect time
to revise some vocabulary.
to revise some vocabulary.
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Bu so'zlarni takrorlash uchun eng qulay
vaqt bo'lgan bo'lardi.
vaqt bo'lgan bo'lardi.
06:54
Can you listen to a podcast
on your way to work while driving?
on your way to work while driving?
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Ishga ketayotib yoki mashina boshqarayotib
podkastlarni tinglay olasizmi?
podkastlarni tinglay olasizmi?
06:58
Well, that would be great
to get some listening experience.
to get some listening experience.
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Chet tilidagi nutqni eshita boshlash siz
uchun foydali bo'ladi.
uchun foydali bo'ladi.
07:01
There are so many things we can do
without even planning that extra time,
without even planning that extra time,
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Rejalashtirmasdan ham qilsa bo'ladigan
ko'plab mashg'ulotlar bor.
ko'plab mashg'ulotlar bor.
07:05
such as listening to podcasts
on our way to work
on our way to work
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Masalan, podkastlarni siz ishga
ketayotib yoki uyingizni
ketayotib yoki uyingizni
07:07
or doing our household chores.
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tozalayotib tinglashingiz mumkin.
07:09
The important thing is
to create a plan in the learning.
to create a plan in the learning.
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Til o'rganish rejasini tuzish muhimdir.
07:12
"I will practice speaking
every Tuesday and Thursday
every Tuesday and Thursday
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"Men har seshanba va payshanba
o'rtog'im bilan
o'rtog'im bilan
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with a friend for 20 minutes.
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muloqot qilishni 20 daqiqa mashq qilamiz.
07:17
I will listen to a YouTube video
while having breakfast."
while having breakfast."
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Nonushta payti YouTubeda videolarni
tinglayman".
tinglayman".
07:21
If you create a system in your learning,
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Agar siz tizimli yondashuvni qo'llasangiz,
07:24
you don't need to find that extra time,
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vaqt yetishmovchiligini his qilmaysiz,
07:26
because it will become
a part of your everyday life.
a part of your everyday life.
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til o'rganish hayotingizni bir bo'lagiga
aylanadi.
aylanadi.
07:29
And finally, if you want to learn
a language fluently,
a language fluently,
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Va so'ngida siz bu tilni mukammal
bilishni xoxlasangiz,
bilishni xoxlasangiz,
07:33
you need also a bit of patience.
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sizdan yanada sabr talab etiladi.
07:36
It's not possible to learn
a language within two months,
a language within two months,
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Ikki oy ichida tilni o'rganishning
iloji yo'q,
iloji yo'q,
07:39
but it's definitely possible to make
a visible improvement in two months,
a visible improvement in two months,
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lekin ikki oy ichida sezilarli progressga
erishish mumkin.
erishish mumkin.
07:43
if you learn in small chunks every day
in a way that you enjoy.
in a way that you enjoy.
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Albatta har kuni oz-ozdan, jarayondan
zavqlangan holda o'rgangan bo'lsangiz.
zavqlangan holda o'rgangan bo'lsangiz.
07:47
And there is nothing
that motivates us more
that motivates us more
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Va bizni shaxsiy rivojlanishimizdanda
ko'proq
ko'proq
07:49
than our own success.
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motivatsiyani o'zi yo'q.
07:51
I vividly remember the moment
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Men "Friends" serialida birinchi marta
07:53
when I understood the first joke
in German when watching "Friends."
in German when watching "Friends."
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nemis tilidagi hazilni tushungan lahzamni
juda yaxshi eslayman.
juda yaxshi eslayman.
07:57
I was so happy and motivated
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Men juda baxtiyor va ilhomlangan edim.
07:59
that I just kept on watching that day
two more episodes,
two more episodes,
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Men shu kuni odatdagidan ikki seriya
ko'proq ko'rdim,
ko'proq ko'rdim,
08:02
and as I kept watching,
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va ko'rayotib
08:03
I had more and more of those moments
of understanding, these little victories,
of understanding, these little victories,
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men sahnalarni yanada yaxshi tushunishni
boshladim.
boshladim.
08:08
and step by step, I got to a level
where I could use the language
where I could use the language
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Mening kichkina g'alabam meni qadamma-
qadam yangi darajaga,
qadam yangi darajaga,
08:11
freely and fluently to express anything.
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bu tilni qo'llay olishimga olib keldi.
08:14
This is a wonderful feeling.
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Bu ajoyib hissoyot!
08:16
I can't get enough of that feeling,
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Menga bu his shunchalik yoqdiki,
08:18
and that's why I learn
a language every two years.
a language every two years.
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men har ikki yilda yangi til o'rganaman.
08:21
So this is the whole polyglot secret.
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Mana poliglotlarning asosiy siri.
08:23
Find effective methods
which you can use systematically
which you can use systematically
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Ma'lum bir vaqt oralig'ida tizimli
qo'llasa bo'ladigan
qo'llasa bo'ladigan
08:26
over the period of some time
in a way which you enjoy,
in a way which you enjoy,
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samarali metodni topish va bu jarayondan
zavqlanish.
zavqlanish.
08:29
and this is how polyglots learn
languages within months, not years.
languages within months, not years.
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Poliglotlar tillarni aynan shunday
o'rganishadi, yillar emas, oylar davomida.
o'rganishadi, yillar emas, oylar davomida.
08:35
Now, some of you may be thinking,
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Hozir kimlardir o'ylashi mumkin:
08:36
"That's all very nice
to enjoy language learning,
to enjoy language learning,
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"Bu albatta chiroyli eshitiladi,
zavq olish...
zavq olish...
08:39
but isn't the real secret
that you polyglots
that you polyglots
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Lekin asosiy sir poliglotlarning
bizlarga qaraganda
bizlarga qaraganda
08:41
are just super talented
and most of us aren't?"
and most of us aren't?"
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superqobiliyatliroq ekanliklaringizda
emasmi?"
emasmi?"
08:45
Well, there's one thing
I haven't told you about Benny and Lucas.
I haven't told you about Benny and Lucas.
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Benni va Lukas haqida men sizlarga
aytmagan yana bir narsa bor.
aytmagan yana bir narsa bor.
08:49
Benny had 11 years of Irish Gaelic
and five years of German at school.
and five years of German at school.
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Benni maktabda 11 yil irlandcha va 5 yil
nemis tilini o'rgangan.
nemis tilini o'rgangan.
08:55
He couldn't speak them
at all when graduating.
at all when graduating.
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Maktabni tamomlagach, u bu tillarda umuman
gapira olmasdi.
gapira olmasdi.
08:58
Up to the age of 21, he thought
he didn't have the language gene
he didn't have the language gene
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21 yoshgacha u o'zida "til o'rganish
geni" yo'q
geni" yo'q
09:02
and he could not speak another language.
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va chet tillarida gapira olmayman deb
hisoblardi.
hisoblardi.
09:04
Then he started to look
for his way of learning languages,
for his way of learning languages,
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Keyin u til o'rganishda o'zining yo'lini
qidira boshladi,
qidira boshladi,
09:07
which was speaking to native speakers
and getting feedback from them,
and getting feedback from them,
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turli xil tillarda gapiruvchi insonlar
bilan muloqotga kirishishga intildi.
bilan muloqotga kirishishga intildi.
09:11
and today Benny can easily
have a conversation in 10 languages.
have a conversation in 10 languages.
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Va bugun Benni 10 xil tilda suhbat
qura oladi.
qura oladi.
09:17
Lucas tried to learn English
at school for 10 years.
at school for 10 years.
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Lukas maktabda ingliz tilini o'rganishga
10 yil uringan.
10 yil uringan.
09:20
He was one of the worst students in class.
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U sinfdagi eng yomon o'quvchilardan
biri bo'lgan.
biri bo'lgan.
09:23
His friends even made fun of him
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Hatto do'stlari ustidan kulishgan
09:24
and gave him a Russian textbook as a joke
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va hazil tariqasida unga rus tili
darsligini berishgan.
darsligini berishgan.
09:27
because they thought he would never
learn that language, or any language.
learn that language, or any language.
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Ular u hech qachon bu yoki boshqa
tilni o'zlashtirolmaydi deb o'ylashgan.
tilni o'zlashtirolmaydi deb o'ylashgan.
09:31
And then Lucas started
to experiment with methods,
to experiment with methods,
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Shunda Lukas turli metodlarni
tajriba qilib,
tajriba qilib,
09:33
looking for his own way to learn,
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o'z usulini qidira boshlagan.
09:36
for example, by having Skype chat
conversations with strangers.
conversations with strangers.
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Masalan, Skype orqali notanish insonlar
bilan muloqot.
bilan muloqot.
09:40
And after just 10 years,
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Va oradan 10 yil o'tib
09:42
Lucas is able to speak
11 languages fluently.
11 languages fluently.
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Lukas 11 ta tilda bemalol gaplasha oladi.
09:47
Does that sound like a miracle?
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Bu mo'jizadek eshitiladimi?
09:49
Well, I see such miracles
every single day.
every single day.
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Men har kuni bunday mo'jizalarni guvohi
bo'laman.
bo'laman.
09:52
As a language mentor,
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Til o'rganish bo'yicha
09:54
I help people learn
languages by themselves,
languages by themselves,
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ko'pchilikka mustaqil o'rganishida
yordamlashaman,
yordamlashaman,
09:56
and I see this every day.
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har kun mo'jiza ko'raman.
09:57
People struggle with language learning
for five, 10, even 20 years,
for five, 10, even 20 years,
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Odamlar til o'rganishga 5 yil, 10 yoki
hattoki, 20 yil harakat qilishadi,
hattoki, 20 yil harakat qilishadi,
10:02
and then they suddenly take
their learning into their own hands,
their learning into their own hands,
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va ular o'rganishni o'z qo'llariga
olganlarida,
olganlarida,
10:05
start using materials which they enjoy,
more effective methods,
more effective methods,
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o'zlariga yoqadigan material va
metodlarni qo'llay boshlaganlarida,
metodlarni qo'llay boshlaganlarida,
10:09
or they start tracking their learning
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yoki o'z ta'limini kuzatib,
10:11
so that they can appreciate
their own progress,
their own progress,
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o'z rivojlanishiga baho berishni
boshlaganlarida,
boshlaganlarida,
10:14
and that's when suddenly
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aynan shu vaqtdan boshlab, go'yoki
10:16
they magically find the language talent
that they were missing all their lives.
that they were missing all their lives.
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mo'jizadek ko'ringan til o'rganish
layoqatini o'zida kuzatishni boshlashadi.
layoqatini o'zida kuzatishni boshlashadi.
10:21
So if you've also tried
to learn a language
to learn a language
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Shunday ekan, agarda siz ham til
o'rganishga
o'rganishga
10:23
and you gave up,
thinking it's too difficult
thinking it's too difficult
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harakat qilib, keyin bu juda qiyin
yoki men
yoki men
10:26
or you don't have the language talent,
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qobiliyatsizman deb tashlab qo'ygan
bo'lsangiz,
bo'lsangiz,
10:28
give it another try.
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yana bir bor urinib ko'ring.
10:29
Maybe you're also
just one enjoyable method away
just one enjoyable method away
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Balki sizga tilni yaxshi o'zlashtirish
uchun
uchun
10:32
from learning that language fluently.
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qiziqarli metod yetishmayotgandir.
10:34
Maybe you're just one method away
from becoming a polyglot.
from becoming a polyglot.
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Balki sizga poliglot bo'lishingiz uchun
bor-yo'g'i bitta metod yetishmayotgandir.
bor-yo'g'i bitta metod yetishmayotgandir.
10:38
Thank you.
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Rahmat.
10:40
(Applause)
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(Qarsaklar)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Lýdia Machová - Language mentorLýdia Machová teaches people how they can learn any language by themselves.
Why you should listen
Lýdia Machová has learned nine languages without ever living abroad or in a multilingual environment. She maintains seven of them at a fluent level, and she usually learns a new one every two years. After meeting dozens of polyglots, or people who speak a lot of languages, she now shares the principles of language learning with the world as a language mentor.
Machová was the main organizer of the world's biggest polyglot event, the Polyglot Gathering in Bratislava, Slovakia, in 2017 and 2018. She holds a PhD in translation studies and previously worked as a professional conference interpreter. She is based in Slovakia but travels often on her mission to help people learn languages in their own ideal way.
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